[VS] Yagura vs Part 1 Orochimaru

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Restrictions: No body stealing jutsu for Orochimaru
Location: Where Gaara fought Kimimaro
Starting Distance: 30 meters
Conditions: Part 1 Edo's​
 

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Conditions mean the circumstances affecting the way in which something works.
:| i know the definition of the word but in case you didnt see OP it doesnt make much sense.
 

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Haha, a Yagura fan? That exists? I'll give you the answer you want, lol...


Yagura takes this no difficulty seeing as Yagura is a perfect jinchuriki and Edo Tensei of Part I is not on Biju level nor is Orochimaru.
 

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Haha, a Yagura fan? That exists? I'll give you the answer you want, lol...


Yagura takes this no difficulty seeing as Yagura is a perfect jinchuriki and Edo Tensei of Part I is not on Biju level nor is Orochimaru.

Yagura is no perfect Jin, but he takes it.
 

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....Yes, he is.

Danzo hyped him to be a perfect Jin, yet he succumbed to genjutsu. If any "perfect Jin" is caught in a genjutsu, and they cannot break out, they are no perfect Jin.
 

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Danzo hyped him to be a perfect Jin, yet he succumbed to genjutsu. If any "perfect Jin" is caught in a genjutsu, and they cannot break out, they are no perfect Jin.

@bold: Kishi established through Danzo that Yagura is a perfect Jin.
I understood your explanation, but that might very well be a plot hole until its explained somehow.

OT: Yagura takes this.
 

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@bold: Kishi established through Danzo that Yagura is a perfect Jin.
I understood your explanation, but that might very well be a plot hole until its explained somehow.

OT: Yagura takes this.

That is hype. Do you believe all the hype you hear from characters? Such as Zetsu hyping Itachi to be unbeatable, Konan stating Pain cannot be defeated, etc.
 

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I agree with Penguin,Obito shouldn't be able to control him if he is a perfect jin. IMO Obito was the one who made him a perfect jin.

OT:If he can really control Bijju then Yagura wins other wise Orochimaru takes this with laughable dif.
 

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That is hype. Do you believe all the hype you hear from characters? Such as Zetsu hyping Itachi to be unbeatable, Konan stating Pain cannot be defeated, etc.

Except those were exagerations futurely proved wrong :|
This isn't real life where people carry wrong information. Danzo doesn't think, Kishi writes him.
Until its proven wrong, retconned or doesn't make sense (eg: Amaterasu being as hot as the sun would burn the entire planet...), hype shouldn't be disregarded imo.
 
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Except those were exagerations futurely proved wrong :|
This isn't real life where people carry wrong information. Danzo doesn't think, Kishi writes him.
Until its proven wrong, retconned or doesn't make sense (eg: Amaterasu being as hot as the sun would burn the entire planet...), hype shouldn't be disregarded imo.

fair enough
 

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Except those were exagerations futurely proved wrong :|
This isn't real life where people carry wrong information. Danzo doesn't think, Kishi writes him.
Until its proven wrong, retconned or doesn't make sense (eg: Amaterasu being as hot as the sun would burn the entire planet...), hype shouldn't be disregarded imo.

People can carry false information even in manga. Kishi does write him, but you realize Kishi can write Danzo hearing false information? This argument makes no sense. Jiraiya said Tsunade was unstoppable in combat, but we all know this is wrong.
 

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People can carry false information even in manga. Kishi does write him, but you realize Kishi can write Danzo hearing false information? This argument makes no sense. Jiraiya said Tsunade was unstoppable in combat, but we all know this is wrong.

Those types of hype already lost their point, which was emphasising their characters and we know by now its not true what was told. That's another example of exageration.
I'm not saying what you think is wrong, but for me Yagura being a perfect jin still stands until proven wrong, even though it doesn't makes sense since he was put under genjutsu (which could be false information as well).
 
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