Tobirama, Minato, Hiruzen, and Nagato vs Hashirama and EMS Madara no Kyuubi

[Haizaki]

Team 2 takes this

 

[Minator93]

Many saying Madara and Hashirama really? I mean really?

Tobirama or Minato alone can take either Madara or Hashirama, adding Nagato and Hiruzen is an utter stomp. I'll drop off some manga facts:

1. Tobirama is said to be EMS Madara level [by Madara himself] Tobirama is beneath VOTE Madara but this isn't VOTE Madara, its EMS Madara U_U

2. Tobirama has been given 2 fodder edos and we know that Hashirama doesn't have a sealing jutsu, so Minato can engage Madara in a 1v1 whilst Tobirama's fodder edos go on that TBB level bomb blasting on Hashirama's ass.

3. Hiruzen is confirmed to know counters to all MS/EMS tech by Kishimoto himself [Naruto official fanbook 2] that pretty much takes care of Madara.

4. Prime Nagato is easily equal to EMS Madara [since Madara doesn't have Kurama this time]

5. Minato and Tobirama have perfect counter to Madara's PSS

I'll show you how Minato and Tobirama pretty much nullifies the Madara's PSS threat.

Minato vs PSS [Madara's Destruction Incarnate] :

As I've stated in some of my earlier posts [not from this thread ] that if Madara goes PSS against Minato then he shoots himself in the leg.

We've seen Hashirama pretty much running when PSS+Kurama had that mini rampage, Madara even taunted him @ that point. Madara then blasted him with a TBB+PSS Sword and Hashirama redirected it via 5-Rashomon.

Now Insert Alive Minato instead of Hashirama, he could do the same with Low difficulty and with very Low chakra. How? Jikukan Keekei i.e. FTG Barrier. Minato already Barriere'd Juubi's TBB No Diff with it in base!

Minato however can take it one step further than Hashirama and have that attack redirected at Madara himself!!

Now onto the main topic, Minato vs Madara's PSS

We know that Minato can teleport anything and everything that his chakra comes into contact with [Directly, Indirectly] (I'm talking about the "chakra link"Minato forms). A Susanoo is nothing but a User's chakra manipulated around him. So all Minato has to do is to "touch" PSS in order to form that "chakra link"

Once the chakra link is formed, Minato is left with 3 choices:

1. To teleport both Madara and PSS
2. To teleport PSS and left Madara hanging
3. To teleport Madara out of the PS to a different Location!

But remember I said Madara shoots himself in the leg when he goes PSS against Minato, I'll prove you why

The Hiraishin Goshun Mawashi i.e. the FTG Swap. Minato can have a clone to do the chakra forming and instead of teleporting Madara out of it Minato can simply swap Madara with his clone and kill him the instant he's swapped!!

Going PSS or any Susanoo against Minato is writing a death wish really. I mean not after he clarified his FTG and showed that over haxx tech Goshun Mawashi!

Now this works on Madara but some smartass will say will this work on Sasuke? because Sasuke uses Enton Cover blah blah. Well it does Minato sends his clones to do the work so even if he touches Amaterasu nothing's gonna happen since its not real Minato!

Also: I argued using base Minato! You can only Imagine how easy it'd be for BM Minato to shit on PSS Lol Also Tobirama has the same abilities as well U_U

Shinsusenjuu isn't even harming team 1 U_U Nagato can fly, Minato and Tobirama have greatest shunshins and FTG's so they're untouchable and two things are canon that Tobirama is faster than both Hashirama and Madara whilst Minato is faster than Tobirama [not counting FTG U_U] Also Minato and Tobirama mark everyone including each other so every shinobi in team 1 is marked by both Hiraishin markings and after that team 1 escapes each and every attack and go ham with Hiraishin Goshun Mawashi!!

Seriously this Team Minato utterly rape Hashirama and Madara U_U

 

[Draphsin]

Spoiler

Many saying Madara and Hashirama really? I mean really?

Tobirama or Minato alone can take either Madara or Hashirama, adding Nagato and Hiruzen is an utter stomp. I'll drop off some manga facts:

1. Tobirama is said to be EMS Madara level [by Madara himself] Tobirama is beneath VOTE Madara but this isn't VOTE Madara, its EMS Madara U_U

2. Tobirama has been given 2 fodder edos and we know that Hashirama doesn't have a sealing jutsu, so Minato can engage Madara in a 1v1 whilst Tobirama's fodder edos go on that TBB level bomb blasting on Hashirama's ass.

3. Hiruzen is confirmed to know counters to all MS/EMS tech by Kishimoto himself [Naruto official fanbook 2] that pretty much takes care of Madara.

4. Prime Nagato is easily equal to EMS Madara [since Madara doesn't have Kurama this time]

5. Minato and Tobirama have perfect counter to Madara's PSS



Shinsusenjuu isn't even harming team 1 U_U Nagato can fly, Minato and Tobirama have greatest shunshins and FTG's so they're untouchable and two things are canon that Tobirama is faster than both Hashirama and Madara whilst Minato is faster than Tobirama [not counting FTG U_U] Also Minato and Tobirama mark everyone including each other so every shinobi in team 1 is marked by both Hiraishin markings and after that team 1 escapes each and every attack and go ham with Hiraishin Goshun Mawashi!!

Seriously this Team Minato utterly rape Hashirama and Madara U_U

The sh*t you spew is cancerous.

 

[Minator93]

[/SPOILER]

The sh*t you spew is cancerous.

Lol still mad because you can't counter?

 

[Nattana]

Seriously, Minato and Tobirama wank is getting out of control

 

[MickNerks]

Im going with Team 1.

Most of you guys arnt putting enough thought in this. You are just thinking mountain buster and choosing a winner.

The first thing you have to notice is that the OT states that they are in character, which means Hashirama isn't starting this match in sage mode. If anything he will wait till he is pushed to his limit before activating it (like shown in his fight with Madara).

With this being said, it gives minato or tobirama more than enough time to confront him in hand to hand, and tag him with a seal. Even if hashirama knows about tobirama's strategy, the OT gave no mention of Hashirama having intel on Minato, which means he wouldn't know minato is a FTG user, which would allow minato to get a tag on him with a shadow clone to avoid direct damage.

Hashirama is getting tagged in this match and once he does, even a shisuusenju wont be able to save him. Madara would be the toughtest to take down because of susanoo. Which he would activate pretty early because of nagato and hiruzen who are utilizing their summons and elemental abilities to the fullest. Susanoo means nothing in to the user of preta path though. Susanoo would get drained as long as hiruzen and a couple path summons can keep madara's attention long enough for nagato to hop on somewhere.

This isn't going to the rivals this is going to team 1.

 

[Dark Artist]

EMS Madara solos or Hashirama alone solos as well

these Fodders in Team 1 Can't do nothing against Perfect Susano
not to mention the Kyuubi as Summon and the Strong Genjutsu by Madara Eyes

No one can Escape Genjutsu only a perfect Jin or a Uchiha

hashirama has shinsuusenju
not to mention he has an AUTO HEALING

let's look to the Fodders in Team 1

Tobirama ? the guy who got owned by 20 fodders unknown jounin and Jin + kin bros
( owned by Darui alone lol )

Minato ? who died by the Kyuubi Claw only ? the guy who doesn't has a solution for Perfect susano or genjutsu ?

Hurizen ? Featless

and finally Nagato ( the strongest in this team ) he is Nobody without Madara Eyes
and it's Madara Eyes , so this battle will never happen

and even with that Madara and hashirama stombs

there is no Counter for their abillities​