Hashirama with no Mokuton vs A

[KidGamer65]

Our argument comes from the fact you think Durability is a "tanking" thing, while I'm simply going with the dictionary definition of "lasting over times, while taking damage". Durability is as i said applied to non-living things, not living things. Endurance is something that is applied to living things. The argument was about, durability.. something that Hashirama is superior in. I stopped arguing who had a "harder" body... right when I realized both of us can't provide any feats.

lol, no. I stated that Ay is more durable, but since you don't believe durable the correct term, you'd swap that out for whatever you believe the correct term is. You don't change the meaning of the argument because a term used was wrong (even though it wasn't)

I provided the feats, you came back with speculation and the usual wank filled bullshit.

The feat of Ay's "durability" that you are claiming on to is credited to his Lightening armor.. not his original body. But eh w.e no care about that.

I never said that Ay wasn't that "durable" without his Raiton Armor, so I don't why the hell you keep on mentioning this.

Black rods = Rinnegan technique , also forced by the rinnegan. Now let me show you examples:

Irrelevant, this doesn't change anything I said about their piercing power.

Every single ninja can be pierced by a kunai..... if they don't have some sort of an armor. Show me how the buddha provided Protection. And it doesn't matter if Hashirama was the focus of the damage, he still tanked the damage that is bigger than 50 + mountains.... rofl. With no protection on top... As I said I need feats of Ay taking that much damage.. otherwise the whole argument you put up is already flawed..

Wrong. 3rd Raikage can't be pierced by a Kunai, with or without his armor, but that's irrelevant as I never said Ay is that durable without his armor.

You think Hashirama tanked 11 Bijuu Dama despite him not being able to tank a Kunai? You think Hashirama tanked 11 Bijuu Dama with his body despite needing Hobi to tank 1 from Kurama? lmao, lets not be stupid now. Anyone who can read the manga will know that he survived that because of his Buddha, all its hands were destroyed as a result of the attack, but its obvious he didn't tank 11 Bijuu Dama with his body, not even you can be that retarded. Lol

 

[Avinash012]

Ay wins this.

 

[BlackFlame44]

Don't see how A counters BoD.

Even Hiruzen reacted to hits while he was in that jutsu

Ay should fare fine

 

[Rainbow Dash]

Even Hiruzen reacted to hits while he was in that jutsu

Ay should fare fine

That was because Hiruzen used his nose to smell their location. A has neither ability or intelligence to do the same. That was also a nerfed Hashirama, this time is the real deal. The same Hashirama who can outpace the velocity of a PS sword.

 

[End of Days]

A wins if he uses v2 right at the start of the match, otherwise it might be troublesome

bringer of darkness genjutsu is short-mid range and can possibly be escaped from after getting a reasonable distance away, the anbu a little distance away werent caught in it
another option considering raikage's reckless nature would be to keep blitzing even within the genjutsu in the hope he gets a lucky hit

moyoujinmon gates can be escaped from by chopping off a little room so that your body gets out (A was able to slice buddha's hand in base and hachibi's horn with raiton amor) though i doubt he would even get caught in it, they were destoryed by paper bombs anyway

 

[KingHashirama]

lol, no. I stated that Ay is more durable, but since you don't believe durable the correct term, you'd swap that out for whatever you believe the correct term is. You don't change the meaning of the argument because a term used was wrong (even though it wasn't)

I provided the feats, you came back with speculation and the usual wank filled bullshit.
I never said that Ay wasn't that "durable" without his Raiton Armor, so I don't why the hell you keep on mentioning this.

Irrelevant, this doesn't change anything I said about their piercing power.

Wrong. 3rd Raikage can't be pierced by a Kunai, with or without his armor, but that's irrelevant as I never said Ay is that durable without his armor.

You think Hashirama tanked 11 Bijuu Dama despite him not being able to tank a Kunai? You think Hashirama tanked 11 Bijuu Dama with his body despite needing Hobi to tank 1 from Kurama? lmao, lets not be stupid now. Anyone who can read the manga will know that he survived that because of his Buddha, all its hands were destroyed as a result of the attack, but its obvious he didn't tank 11 Bijuu Dama with his body, not even you can be that retarded. Lol

When someone provides dictionary definitions of a word, that you claim to know the meaning of.... read them and put them in your mind. You didn't provide sh*t according to the definitions.... Everything you are saying is BS according to the definitions. You don't even know what Endurance and Durability are until you were told... You didn't even know which one is used for who.

You provide a feat, for Ay tanking something with Lightening armor, NOTHING ABOUT DURABILITY .....

I provide a feat Hashirama tanking a big ass explosion with any chakra defense of any sort, you make an excuse.... ROFL. What the hell is this? You can't even admit that your wrong? rofl

Yes the force put into something has nothing to do with piercing power, nice to know kiddo. :yeah:


Do you know how dumb you sound? "3rd Raikage can't be pierced with a kunai".. holy sh*t Wank to the max. Feats of either one tanking a sword or kunai stabbing at them, without their armor... i'll wait =]

First of all 11? Easily more than eleven. 2 Durability has nothing to do with piercing power.. it has to do with the damage taken. Ay didn't take any damage, so in which is that an attribute to his "durability". You don't even know what durability is kiddo.

Anyone who can read the manga knows that Hashirama did have damage marks on him, due to the fact he was out in the open for the damage, unlike MAdara who had the PS armor..


Your argument got shat on quite a while ago, you are only making yourself look like a stubborn person by still continuing to talk about something you don't even understand. Trying to act superior to me or something isn't going to help your arguments..

 

[KidGamer65]

I provide a feat Hashirama tanking a big ass explosion with any chakra defense of any sort, you make an excuse.... ROFL. What the hell is this? You can't even admit that your wrong? rofl

Well, no point in arguing any further since its clear you will fap to Hashirama no matter how stupid you sound in the end.

 

[EZQ]

Well, no point in arguing any further since its clear you will fap to Hashirama no matter how stupid you sound in the end.

What's the debate about? If its about the raikage's durability without lightining armour then why don't you use that manga scan where it shows Tsunade needing to use the Byakugo seal after using the teletransportation jutsu because her skin is all messed up, while the raikage could use it and didn't get a single scratch. And in that same chapter they say that the sandaime raikage's skin was a shield. I would link it to you but i haven't found the page, is somewhere before the KM Naruto vs Ay fight.

 

[KidGamer65]

What's the debate about? If its about the raikage's durability without lightining armour then why don't you use that manga scan where it shows Tsunade needing to use the Byakugo seal after using the teletransportation jutsu because her skin is all messed up, while the raikage could use it and didn't get a single scratch. And in that same chapter they say that the sandaime raikage's skin was a shield. I would link it to you but i haven't found the page, is somewhere before the KM Naruto vs Ay fight.

Its about who has better durability, Hashirama or Ay. I could keep going but since he claimed Hashirama tanked 11 Bijuu Dama with his body alone thus he's superior to Ay in durability, its clear that he is fapping too hard to be reasoned with at this point.

 

[EZQ]

Its about who has better durability, Hashirama or Ay. I could keep going but since he claimed Hashirama tanked 11 Bijuu Dama with his body alone thus he's superior to Ay in durability, its clear that he is fapping too hard to be reasoned with at this point.

OMG LOL. Well we know Ay's durability is above average while there's no proof Hashirama's body is harder than average.

About that 11 bijudamas, lol.

 

[KidGamer65]

OMG LOL. Well we know Ay's durability is above average while there's no proof Hashirama's body is harder than average.

About that 11 bijudamas, lol.

lol, is correct. I can't even take this guy seriously.

 

[KingHashirama]

What's the debate about? If its about the raikage's durability without lightining armour then why don't you use that manga scan where it shows Tsunade needing to use the Byakugo seal after using the teletransportation jutsu because her skin is all messed up, while the raikage could use it and didn't get a single scratch. And in that same chapter they say that the sandaime raikage's skin was a shield. I would link it to you but i haven't found the page, is somewhere before the KM Naruto vs Ay fight.

Tanking an attack does not = durability... Understand what durability is. Kushina >> Raikages when it comes to durability...

As for the FTG technique, Raikage has a harder body.. nothing to do with durability. Durability is the equvilent of endurance when you use the word "durability" for a living thing.

Raikage does not have more endurance than Hashirama or any other senju..


Durability is about taking damage and then keep on going still. You guys I'm thinking have never taken science or something..


Also, you believe that technique does more damage to the body than the explosion created by the conflict between PS+Kurama vs Buddha? I mean hey you believe that like Kidgamer believes it... then no reason calling other illogical people or fapboys.


On top of that your buddy Kiddo, still fails to provide where Hashirama used any sort of jutsu to protect himself.. he had used any jutsu he wouldn't have gotten any scratches.

 

[EZQ]

First of all, Tsunade (a senju) is not as durable as Ay, as soon as i find the scan i'm looking for i'll post it on your profile. Ay lost an arm and kept fighting... you have no scans that proof that if Hashirama looses an arm he will keep going.

And by your definition of durablitity... Zabuza should be n1, he had 8 stakes on his back and his two arms trashed and he was still fighting... So is Zabuza's durability > Hashirama's? Hashirama had 3 black rods on his back and he couldn't move... i don't think he can tank 8 stakes and swords.

About the bijuudamas, LOL if you think they targeted Hashirama, they went to cut the budda's arms and they did not hit hashirama, if that hits him directly he dies.

 

[KingHashirama]

First of all, Tsunade (a senju) is not as durable as Ay, as soon as i find the scan i'm looking for i'll post it on your profile. Ay lost an arm and kept fighting... you have no scans that proof that if Hashirama looses an arm he will keep going.

And by your definition of durablitity... Zabuza should be n1, he had 8 stakes on his back and his two arms trashed and he was still fighting... So is Zabuza's durability > Hashirama's? Hashirama had 3 black rods on his back and he couldn't move... i don't think he can tank 8 stakes and swords.

About the bijuudamas, LOL if you think they targeted Hashirama, they went to cut the budda's arms and they did not hit hashirama, if that hits him directly he dies.

My definition of durability? what? Its actually the dictionary definition.

Tsunade fought with susanoo swords pierced through her.. Tsunade SUMMONED katsuyu while being cut in half.... And shes not even a full senju rofl.

Notice that the explosion COVERS THE WHOLE BUDDHA ITSELF, and goes WAY higher than the buddha.... On top of that, have you seen the range of the swords attacks? Are you saying Hashirama didn't feel nothing? rofl... Holy sh*t. As I said you are making excuse now.

Show me where I stated they were targeted at Hashirama? I stated he survived the explosion of 50+ mountains.... something that hasn't been done by other character.. unless you want to show me of course.

Hashirama had 4 -6 black rods actually...but however, he was still fighting Madara and was able to restrain him. Pretty durable to me.



How does tanking = Durable? Tanking = Harder body.. But you never showed a feat of Ay tanking a kunai or sword being stabbed to him, without him using the Lightening armor... rofl.

And alright mate, i shall wait.

 

[Mellanoma]

Bringer of Darkness Solos

Also he can still use Doton and Suiton

 

[Murasame]

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Can die by a single kunai

 

[KingHashirama]

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Can die by a single kunai

Just like any other shinobi who can chose to kill themselves by a kunai....... You still show no feats of anyone breaking a kunai to their body...

 

[Murasame]

Just like any other shinobi who can chose to kill themselves by a kunai....... You still show no feats of anyone breaking a kunai to their body...

lol twas a joke kh

 

[KingHashirama]

lol twas a joke kh

mannnnnnn V_V rofl. nvm then.

 

[EZQ]

mannnnnnn V_V rofl. nvm then.

Actually there was no explosion, the bijuudamas cut trough the buddha's arm and kept flyng, they never exploded.

Zabuza is more durable than Hashirama by feats, no matter if he's a senju he doesn't have any feat of tanking 8 swords on his back, even as an edo he got paralyzed at some point with the black rods.

So I have a scan showing Ay's body being above average in durability but you don't have any scans showing Hashirama's body is harder than average... shame.

Tsunade's body is that durable because of the byakugo seal, and i tought we were talking about durability without any jutsus, so Tsunade's body without byakugo is not that durable.