Tsunade, Guy, and Kakashi vs Kabutomaru

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Condition: Kakashi can warp anything but Kabuto.

Intel: Manga

Restrictions: Sage Mode and Manda II and herp derp Edo.

Location: Edo Nagato and Edo Itachi vs Bee and Naruto
 
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Edo Tensei isn't restricted? Kabuto plays with them.
Under those conditions, they have nothing that can harm Kabuto. Meanwhile Kabuto has Nagato, Itachi, etc.
 

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Seriously people need to stop with this ET nonsense that use is restricted by default.
 

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Gai and Tsunade are worthless here. Kakashi is the only threat, and I really do think his Raikiri would kill Kabuto if he was in a liquid state, but sound genjutsu ends this.

Wait, can he use the Sound Five abilities without SM?
 

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How? Not every liquid is conductible.



All he does in Sage Mode is pour Senjutsu on them, why not.

Not every liquid is, but Hozuki turn into water which is conductible. No experiment on earth makes water not conductible. And I thought he needed his SM to bring out their abilities. But if he doesn't need SM, he stomps via sound genjutsu.
 

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Not every liquid is, but Hozuki turn into water which is conductible. No experiment on earth makes water not conductible.

Kabuto doesn't have Hozuki. He made his own version of fluids. He distinguishes his from Suijutsu when he told Sasuke if he remembered him, the partner you have that does use water.

And I thought he needed his SM to bring out their abilities. But if he doesn't need SM, he stomps via sound genjutsu.

I don't see how Sage Mode have to do with Sakon's KKG he stole so yea he can.

I change my mind then, Team one takes this pretty easily.

How is this easily?
 

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Kabuto doesn't have Hozuki. He made his own version of fluids. He distinguishes his from Suijutsu when he told Sasuke if he remembered him, the partner you have that does use water.



I don't see how Sage Mode have to do with Sakon's KKG he stole so yea he can.



How is this easily?

I concede then. I thought he had Suigetsu's ability to turn to water, not other liquids. I am guessing fire can still evaporate it though?
 

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Without Sage Mode then all he really has are his stolen powers, Kakashi could honestly solo in this situation since he has Lightning Release.

It was Sage Mode that made him OP.

If you are referring to Kabuto's ability to liquify read spoiler:

[ ] Kabuto said its ability to transform the body "INTO A LIQUID FORM". It was never stated what liquid form Kabuto uses. To understand the context as a whole, read what Kabuto said right after. "I use MY BODY FLUID <--- To perform it". Which means its something else. For all we known this liquid is unconductible, since not every liquid is conductible. For all we know the fluids can handle Amatersu heat. The next panel says, Kabuto researched and ALTERNATE his own version. Now to conclude this part is distinguishing "WATER" to Kabuto's "FLUIDS" the last context of Kabuto's source. "Dont you know him, too? it's Sugetsu. He (Sugetsu)<----- can transform into water...." That said Kabuto's Fuilds can work better then the houzuki clan, even countering it's weak points.

There is a reason why Kabuto mention doing research and alternation from the liquid/hydrification. Kabuto knew the pros and the cons with Suika no Jutsu. This is why he had alternate it. The manga never said what kind of liquid form Kabuto uses (Although by the looks of it, it is very thick and also produces his fluid while keeping its skin state[ ](example), basically abnormal) , BUT by context he had to alter the jutsu to FIX the CONS. Well? What are the Cons for Suika No Jutsu? Lightening Release, and always needing water to drank, to keep themselves hydrated. These weaknesses do not apply to Kabuto at all. If you were to look at the scan where Kabuto was explaining his body shed version we know that the context also applied that the alternation is much better then the snake skin shed. That means that anything that snake skin shed, either can do the same or much better then normal shedding. An example would be Manda tanking Katon+Oil by simply shedding his skin to counter the effects. [ ]. Kabuto simply made sure to have this Liquid he altered to counter electricity and also enabling him to face off heating capacity, and of course dealing with physical attacks..

I concede then. I thought he had Suigetsu's ability to turn to water, not other liquids. I am guessing fire can still evaporate it though?

Read spoiler on top. It more detailed.
 
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If you are referring to Kabuto's ability to liquify read spoiler:

[ ] Kabuto said its ability to transform the body "INTO A LIQUID FORM". It was never stated what liquid form Kabuto uses. To understand the context as a whole, read what Kabuto said right after. "I use MY BODY FLUID <--- To perform it". Which means its something else. For all we known this liquid is unconductible, since not every liquid is conductible. For all we know the fluids can handle Amatersu heat. The next panel says, Kabuto researched and ALTERNATE his own version. Now to conclude this part is distinguishing "WATER" to Kabuto's "FLUIDS" the last context of Kabuto's source. "Dont you know him, too? it's Sugetsu. He (Sugetsu)<----- can transform into water...." That said Kabuto's Fuilds can work better then the houzuki clan, even countering it's weak points.

There is a reason why Kabuto mention doing research and alternation from the liquid/hydrification. Kabuto knew the pros and the cons with Suika no Jutsu. This is why he had alternate it. The manga never said what kind of liquid form Kabuto uses (Although by the looks of it, it is very thick and also produces his fluid while keeping its skin state[ ](example), basically abnormal) , BUT by context he had to alter the jutsu to FIX the CONS. Well? What are the Cons for Suika No Jutsu? Lightening Release, and always needing water to drank, to keep themselves hydrated. These weaknesses do not apply to Kabuto at all. If you were to look at the scan where Kabuto was explaining his body shed version we know that the context also applied that the alternation is much better then the snake skin shed. That means that anything that snake skin shed, either can do the same or much better then normal shedding. An example would be Manda tanking Katon+Oil by simply shedding his skin to counter the effects. [ ]. Kabuto simply made sure to have this Liquid he altered to counter electricity and also enabling him to face off heating capacity, and of course dealing with physical attacks..

He says he uses his body fluids to make the liquid and people are mostly water.
 

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He says he uses his body fluids to make the liquid and people are mostly water.

Did you read the part of the context stating, alternating and recreating?

A good example would be 2nd Mizukage. He can make his body resemble oil more then water. And science 101: Oil is not conductible.

But Kabuto made up fluids is neither of these.
 
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Did you read the part of the context stating, alternating and recreating?

A good example would be 2nd Mizukage. He can make his body resemble oil more then water. And science 101: Oil is not conductible.

But Kabuto made up fluids is neither of these.

But it would still be speculation to say that the fluids he used aren't conductable. thus, not a valid point.
 

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But it would still be speculation to say that the fluids he used aren't conductable. thus, not a valid point.

No its not. Its speculating that it is conductible, considering Kabuto distinguish his fuilds to that of Suigetsu.

So YOU need to prove that it has the same weakness.
 
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No its not. Its speculating that it is conductible, considering Kabuto distinguish his fuilds to that of Suigetsu.

So YOU need to prove that it has the same weakness.

I don't believe you've provided any proof that it wasn't conductable to begin with.
 

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I don't believe you've provided any proof that it wasn't conductable to begin with.

Then you weren't reading since I did prove:

-Kabuto research on Hozuki clan and how it works
-Kabuto fluid creation is not made of water
- Not every Liquid conducts electricity.
- Another member of Hozuki clan via Mizukage, can counter electricity since his body is made of of mostly oil.

Which part did you miss
 

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No sage mode? Kabuto can't handle 3 kage level shinobis without SM or Edo Tensei...
 
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