Kamui doesn't work on 10 tails jins..?

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Obito couldn't travel to le kamui dimension because he had the Juubi inside of him, so does that prevent other people ( Kakashi ) from using Kamui on him effectively?
 

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Nope, the problem was that Obito SEALED the juubi with his dimension jutsu, meaning that if he used it, it might slip out or the magnitude of the Juubi was far greater than the dimension that it was being held in.
 

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Nope, the problem was that Obito SEALED the juubi with his dimension jutsu, meaning that if he used it, it might slip out or the magnitude of the Juubi was far greater than the dimension that it was being held in.

what he said
 

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Nope, the problem was that Obito SEALED the juubi with his dimension jutsu, meaning that if he used it, it might slip out or the magnitude of the Juubi was far greater than the dimension that it was being held in.

Wait :what: :dafq: explain to me what you just said.
 

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But wait, Kakashi was in the Kamui dimension at the time too..
 

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Nope, the problem was that Obito SEALED the juubi with his dimension jutsu, meaning that if he used it, it might slip out or the magnitude of the Juubi was far greater than the dimension that it was being held in.

That's a lie if so kakashi was in the same dimension at the Same time. And we didn't see the juubi in there. Why he can't transfer thru is a mystery but same principle would work trying too send the juubi there it wouldn't work.
 

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But wait, Kakashi was in the Kamui dimension at the time too..
I think he couldn't go back as either he was low on chackra or as both of them use the same set of eyes you know what I am saying kakashi was also trapped.
 

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Nope, the problem was that Obito SEALED the juubi with his dimension jutsu, meaning that if he used it, it might slip out or the magnitude of the Juubi was far greater than the dimension that it was being held in.

completely incorrect.

obito stated that since the juubi has entered his body, he could no longer phase through dimensions.
the juubi is inside obitos body, not kamui land.

obito simply could not make 2 entities phase through dimensions at once.
 

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kamui will work on juubi or its jin

kamui works on biju which is chakra, so kamui works on juubi which is chakra

the reason that obito didn't use kamui is because of plot ---> I mean how could they hit or touch him If he would use kamui
so they would need kakashi (the other eye), and It would be the same pattern fighting pre-jin-obito, and kishi wanted to try something new

the second reason is that maybe obito was focusing too much on controlling the juubi so he couldn't use MS
after all know he had difficulties controlling the juubi
 

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Obito couldn't travel to le kamui dimension because he had the Juubi inside of him, so does that prevent other people ( Kakashi ) from using Kamui on him effectively?

No......I don't feel like explaining why
 

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My guess is that the jinchurriki of the juubi will have certain chakra's of theirs disrupted due to it. This chakra disruption stops kamui from being able to be used.

It could also be that the juubi refuses to allow Obito to use kamui, because if he somehow got trapped in the other dimension the balance of the world could be thrown off.

He may not be able to use it for the same reason that only non-jin can use the reaper death seal (w/e that reason may be).

edit: @sages456, he makes several entities (him and someone else) travel to the kamui dimension all the time. Simply not being able to transfer 2 entities cannot be the reason why kamui couldn't be used.
 
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completely incorrect.

obito stated that since the juubi has entered his body, he could no longer phase through dimensions.
the juubi is inside obitos body, not kamui land.

obito simply could not make 2 entities phase through dimensions at once.

What this guy said!
 

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Obito couldn't travel to le kamui dimension because he had the Juubi inside of him, so does that prevent other people ( Kakashi ) from using Kamui on him effectively?

of course that is true due to same principle working in this example as well, so unless kishi doesnt stick to his rules or set new ones especially in this case.

Based on logic even kamui no matter what will not work on juubi as kamui has been never used on juubi and turned out to be succesfull. Kamui fanboys will deny it and use Obito defending juubi as excuse but this is false. To be honest kamui may not even be able to warp kurama even half of kurama as naruto chakra avatar in bijuu mode.

The only dangerous kamui would be long offensive version useable by kakashi to rip heads from rest of body. However even that kamui could be useless against beings with great regenerative abilities, or fast enough characters to move faster from kakashi vision then kakashi can move his eye to follow you.

Great thread and nice points ;)
 

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Obito can only transfer himself into the other dimension.

He had the Juubi sealed inside him meaning his body was no longer of one entity, he was like polluted and to use kamui he has to enter without Juubi.

My other guess is he became so incredible powerful that he needed no kamui to fight the fodders, so pure confidence and prudence.
 

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My guess is that the jinchurriki of the juubi will have certain chakra's of theirs disrupted due to it. This chakra disruption stops kamui from being able to be used.

It could also be that the juubi refuses to allow Obito to use kamui, because if he somehow got trapped in the other dimension the balance of the world could be thrown off.

He may not be able to use it for the same reason that only non-jin can use the reaper death seal (w/e that reason may be).

edit: @sages456, he makes several entities (him and someone else) travel to the kamui dimension all the time. Simply not being able to transfer 2 entities cannot be the reason why kamui couldn't be used.

im not referring to actual warping.

obito is very specific with his speech. he says something along the lines that he cant "shift through dimensions" which is what he does to avoid attacks. he never says that he cant warp.

he cannot shift 2 entities through dimensions at once.
 

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It wouldn't work but not because that, it wouldn't work because only senjutsu works on Juubito, if Kakashi tries to warp him Obito cancels it.
 

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Nope, the problem was that Obito SEALED the juubi with his dimension jutsu, meaning that if he used it, it might slip out or the magnitude of the Juubi was far greater than the dimension that it was being held in.

Obito absorbed the juubi into his body....

It seems that you lose a power when you become the juubi host.
 
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My guess is that if he kamui part of his body the Juubi might have a chance to slip out and escape like the Bijuus did.
 

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im not referring to actual warping.

obito is very specific with his speech. he says something along the lines that he cant "shift through dimensions" which is what he does to avoid attacks. he never says that he cant warp.

he cannot shift 2 entities through dimensions at once.

Obito isn't specific at all, He says "I can't travel through dimensions". Meaning he can't go to the other dimension, at all. That is just one translation. In another translation it says nothing about him not being able to use kamui, be it phasing or warping his entire body. So it is not very specific in the slightest.

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Obito isn't specific at all, He says "I can't travel through dimensions". Meaning he can't go to the other dimension, at all. That is just one translation. In another translation it says nothing about him not being able to use kamui, be it phasing or warping his entire body. So it is not very specific in the slightest.

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In the official VIZ translation he states that he can't use Kamui to phase through dimensions.

My guess is that he can't go intangible because the Juubi is bound to the real world.
 
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