Hashirama with no Mokuton vs A

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Who wins?

If it's a stomp, add in Tsunade.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Bringer of Darkness solos Ay. Tsunade isn't changing the outcome if she can't counter the BoD.

 

[KidGamer65]

He can't hurt Ay, his punches aren't going to do squat to him. Though Ay's going to have a hard time putting him down due to him having the capability to react to Ay's level of speeds and the fact that he has Tsunade level healing.

 

[KingHashirama]

He can't hurt Ay, his punches aren't going to do squat to him. Though Ay's going to have a hard time putting him down due to him having the capability to react to Ay's level of speeds and the fact that he has Tsunade level healing.

A Senju punch can't hurt Ay? . brah what?

 

[miromiro]

Ay takes both scenarios.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

A Senju punch can't hurt Ay? . brah what?

What? When was Hashirama's physical strength put on such a high level?

 

[Ababeel]

A wins low difficult.

 

[Hijey]

Ay wins with great difficulty and with Tsunade it's an easier victory

 

[KidGamer65]

A Senju punch can't hurt Ay? . brah what?

Hashirama has shown no feat that lets him disable Ay with his weapons and fists alone.

The best he can do is pin him with Myoujinmon, and proceed to outlast him since Hashirama can't actually beat Ay down.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Hashirama has shown no feat that lets him disable Ay with his weapons and fists alone.

The best he can do is pin him with Myoujinmon, and proceed to outlast him since Hashirama can't actually beat Ay down.

Just curious, how does he gain time to enter Sage Mode, against Ay?

 

[KidGamer65]

Just curious, how does he gain time to enter Sage Mode, against Ay?

-He can enter Sage Mode

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, who should be near Ay in speed (

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), so being able to react in time to enter SM is no big deal.

Bringer of Darkness can also be used to blind Ay at match's start.

 

[~Sky~]

Don't see how A counters BoD.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

-He can enter Sage Mode

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He has been standing still ever since he was performing the Barrier jutsu so he had time. In his Madara fight it took a decent amount of time, which talking to Madara and Madara standing give him time.

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, who should be near Ay in speed (

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), so being able to react in time to enter SM is no big deal.

The thing is he cannot move while gathering natural energy.

 

[KidGamer65]

He has been standing still ever since he was performing the Barrier jutsu so he had time. In his Madara fight it took a decent amount of time, which talking to Madara and Madara standing give him time.

He wasn't gathering until he closed his eyes for Madara, hence him talking to him the whole time, I don't know where the idea came from that he started gathering while having a conversation with Madara (Which goes against the requirements to enter SM considering he isn't even focusing) but it isn't true. His intent to talk Madara down first disagrees with that.

For the barrier, I highly doubt that Hashirama was gathering Nature Energy and using Ninjutsu at the same time, pretty sure that isn't even possible considering you need to balance your chakra with the Nature Energy being taken in.

The thing is he cannot move while gathering natural energy.

He doesn't need to move, all he has to do is enter it and he can block Ay's attack.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

He wasn't gathering until he closed his eyes for Madara, hence him talking to him the whole time, I don't know where the idea came from that he started gathering while having a conversation with Madara (Which goes against the requirements to enter SM considering he isn't even focusing) but it isn't true. His intent to talk Madara down first disagrees with that.

It isn't require to talk to go Sage Mode.[

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]. Hashirama started here[

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]. After Hashi confirmation of Madara mindset, he then enters.

For the barrier, I highly doubt that Hashirama was gathering Nature Energy and using Ninjutsu at the same time, pretty sure that isn't even possible considering you need to balance your chakra with the Nature Energy being taken in.

He didn't he was in Sage Mode first, then the jutsu activated, next panel.

He doesn't need to move, all he has to do is enter it and he can block Ay's attack.

If implies that it's really instant.

 

[KidGamer65]

It isn't require to talk to go Sage Mode.[

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]. Hashirama started here[

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]. After Hashi confirmation of Madara mindset, he then enters.

Gathering Nature Energy automatically pushes you into Sage Mode, he isn't going to gather and then not enter Sage Mode, so the bold part doesn't hold up. Why would he try to enter Sage Mode before his confirmation of Madara's mindset? That goes against his intent. The obvious signal that shows he's ready to kill Madara if he has to and that he's begun gathering Nature Energy is the moment where he

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, that's when he is truly focusing and truly gathering Nature Energy.

Naruto showed the same thing in the panel you posted.

He didn't he was in Sage Mode first, then the jutsu activated, next panel.

The jutsu was activated in the panel before him entering Sage Mode, hence them all saying the jutsu's name in the panel before Hashirama uses Myoujinmon.

Not to mention he was standing still there making the handsigns in the panel just posted, so the amount of time he was standing there doesn't help your argument either.

If implies that it's really instant.

It is, nigh instant. Not instant but very fast.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Then we should conclude it is as fast as Naruto entering Sage U_U

 

[KidGamer65]

Then we should conclude it is as fast as Naruto entering Sage U_U

Why? Two panels show him entering it faster than Naruto can.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Why? Two panels show him entering it faster than Naruto can.

Naruto use two panels too.

 

[KidGamer65]

Naruto use two panels too.

No, I mean there are two different panels that show him going into it faster than Naruto. Panels can't be used as a measure of time since different events flow at different times.