[Discussion] Rank the Yonko, Shichibukai and Admirals

[24 12 11 to troll]

Yonko - Not nearly enough info on most of them... how can we rank them?

Shichibukai -

Dofla/Kuma
Kuma/Dofla
Mihawk
Boa
Jimbei
Law/Croc
Croc/Law
Moria
Buggy

Admirals - Ill put the former 3 admirals around the same strength or the distance between them is very minor. Either that or Akainu>Aokiji>Kizaru>Akainu
At the moment i would put Fuji below the three

Do you masturbate over Doflamingo and Kuma?

 

[Lilvic92]

Since you mention Fujitora, I assume you're up to date with OP. In that case, why would you put Aokiji so far below Akainu? The two are said to be almost equal and as a result their fight lasted 10 days. If there's someone stronger than Aokiji, then there's the possibility that said person would at the very least be as strong as Akainu and we can't have someone stronger than the latter within the marines because of his role in the story.

Emperors
1. Shanks
2. Kaido
3. Blackbeard
4. Big Mom

Admirals
1. Akainu
2. Aokiji
3. Kizaru
4. Fujitora

Garp and Sengoku at their strongest could probably beat any Admiral, especially Garp. However, I think in old age Garp would be below Aokiji and Sengoku below Kizaru. I guess Fujitora could end up stronger than Kizaru if he is Zoro's opponent and Kizaru is Sanji's. I doubt that because of the hints that Zoro being the one to defeat Kizaru.

Warlords
1. Mihawk
2. Doflamingo
3. Boa Hancock
4. Law
5. PX-0
6. Jimbei
7. Buggy

Yeah I'm up to date with the manga, I went on a crazy One Piece marathon last month. It's currently my favorite manga. I can't believe I use to hate on it.

Anyways yeah sorry I let my bias get the best of me, I really like Garp and Fujitora so that's why I put them above Aokiji.
I think Garp may still be better than Akainu, I honestly believe if Sengoku hadn't restrained Garp during the war at Marineford then Garp would've actually killed Akainu.

 

[Lilvic92]

Yonko - Not nearly enough info on most of them... how can we rank them?

Shichibukai -

Dofla/Kuma
Kuma/Dofla
Mihawk
Boa
Jimbei
Law/Croc
Croc/Law
Moria
Buggy

Admirals - Ill put the former 3 admirals around the same strength or the distance between them is very minor. Either that or Akainu>Aokiji>Kizaru>Akainu
At the moment i would put Fuji below the three

Yeah the Yonko were hard for me to rank so I based it on speculation and hype (Whitebeard being hailed as the strongest man in the world and a rival to Roger, I had to put him at the top)

 

[Souji]

Whitebeard as a low Yonko level? Or the third ranked Yonko?

... you people can't be serious :|

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Yonko

1. Kaido

2. Shanks

3. BB

4. Big Mom (surprise... The woman ends up at the bottom #ShonenManga)



Admirals

1. Kizaru (Realistically)

2. Akainu

3. Fujitora

4. Kizaru (where he'll end up by Plot)

5. Ryokugyu

Aokiji is either just behind Akainu or Kizaru. Hard to say. Though I lean at him being behind Akainu.



Shichibukai

1. Mihawk

2. Kuma

3. Doflamingo

4. Crocodile

5. Hancock

6. Law

7. Jinbei

8. PX-0 (assuming he's completely machine operating on the Return to Sabondy operating System...otherwise 3 or 4)

9. Buggy

10. Moriah (cause Buffy has the crew to back him :rolleyes)

The new guy will probably be in the upper level of the Shichibukai

 

[iSpeak]

Do you masturbate over Doflamingo and Kuma?

Because I put them at #1? Dafuq is wrong with you. Kuma is heavily underrated... judging from what he has shown he is a complete beast and I cant really see any other Shibukai defeating him. I placed Dofla up there because he is going off at the moment but im sure once he is defeated and shows his weaknesses it will bring him down a bit.

 

[Peace Maker]

Actually your list is not sucks dude.

 

[Hexuze]

Yonkou:
1. Edward Newgate
- The strongest man in the world. F*cked Sakazuki over, and he seems to be at low Yonkou level.
2. Kaidou
- He has been hyped as the strongest beast in the world. He was confident in Killing Whitebeard whom was stronger than Shanks. I believe he was only stopped by Shanks via negotiations and not combat.
2. Big Mom
- This is currently just a massive wild guess. No hype. No feats.
3. Shanks
- Most of his hype is because of the fanbase. So I have my doubts about him being the strongest or even second strongest Yonkou.
4. Marshal D. Teach
- Newcomer. He will soon be #1, but he will need time to develop his Haki to a higher level.

Your scaling with Shanks doesn't even make sense. Shanks clearly stopped Kaido from taking down WB, not to mention it also shows how weak Kaido is if he needed to sneak up on WB to take him out. Excluding WB the rankings should be:

1. Shanks
2. Big Mom/Kaido
3. Big Mom/Kaido
4. BB

 

[Bogard]

Yonkou

1. Whitebeard
2. Shanks
3. Kaido
4. Big Mom
5. Blackbeard

Shichibukai

1. Mihawk
2. Doflamingo
3. Kuma
4. Hancock
5. Trafalgar Law
6. Jinbei
7. Crocodile
8. Gekko Moriah
9. Captain Buggy

I don't know where to place the 7th Shichibukai at this point so i'll wait until his appearance

Admirals

1. Garp
2. Sengoku
3. Akainu
4. Aokiji
5. Fujitora
6. Kizaru

Can't place the other admiral at this point

 

[jiraiya lives]

1. Prime whitebeard
2. Shanks
3. Marine ford whitebeard/Kaidou
4. Kaidou
5. Blackbeard
6. Big mam



1. Mihawk
2. Dofailmingo
3. Kuma
4. Law
5. Jinbie
6. Handcock
7. Croc
8. Gekko
9. Buggy



1. Akainu/Aokiji
2. Aokiji
3. Kizaru (would be 1 if he was more motivated )
4. Fujitora

 

[ToshiZO]

Yonkou

1. Shanks

2. Kaido

3. Big Mom

4. Marshall D Teach

If we count MF WB he'd probably be just ahead of Teach maybe (Prime would obviously be #1)

Admirals

1. Akainu

2. Kizaru

3. Kuzan (ex)

4. Fujitora/Ryokugyu

5. Ryokugyu/ Fujitora

Shichibukai

1. Mihawk

2. Doflamingo

3. Trafalgar Law

4. Boa Hancock

5. Jimbe (ex)

6. Crocodile (ex)

7. PX-0

8. Gecko Moria (ex)

9. Buggy

expect the new one to be top 3

 

[Hijey]

I'm gonna make a new list to add old/new characters that were/are in the group.

Emperors
1. Prime Whitebeard
2. Old and sick Whitebeard
3. Shanks
4. Kaido
5. Blackbeard
6. Big Mom

Warlords
1. Mihawk
2. Blackbeard
3. The Warlord that cut Z's arm
4. Doflamingo
5. Boa Hancock
6. Kuma
7. Law
8. PX-0
9. Crocodile
10. Jimbei
11. Buggy

Vegapunk probably made the PX-0 become stronger the past two years so I could see him being below Doflamingo.

Admirals
1. Sengoku
2. Akainu
3. Aokiji
4. Kong
5. Z
6. Kizaru
7. Fujitora
8. Ryokugyu

I guess Fujitora and Ryokugyu are interchangable but I feel that's how it'll turn out. Garp wasn't an Admiral but was offered the position so if you wanted him to be included then consider him to be #1 on amongst the Admirals.

Yeah I'm up to date with the manga, I went on a crazy One Piece marathon last month. It's currently my favorite manga. I can't believe I use to hate on it.

Anyways yeah sorry I let my bias get the best of me, I really like Garp and Fujitora so that's why I put them above Aokiji.
I think Garp may still be better than Akainu, I honestly believe if Sengoku hadn't restrained Garp during the war at Marineford then Garp would've actually killed Akainu.

Awesome! I guess Garp could possibly still be stronger but I'm doubtful about that. WB was mad at Akainu at that time so Akainu would have been crushed by the two at that time but I do think Garp could pull out a win against Akainu at that time.

Because I put them at #1? Dafuq is wrong with you. Kuma is heavily underrated... judging from what he has shown he is a complete beast and I cant really see any other Shibukai defeating him. I placed Dofla up there because he is going off at the moment but im sure once he is defeated and shows his weaknesses it will bring him down a bit.

Kuma can sometimes be underrated but also overrated and you're doing the latter at the moment. The M3, Law and people at their level could do what Kuma did to the pre timeskip SHs. Mihawk has much greater hype than any Warlord.

 

[Uchiha Samater]

Going by Feats and mentions, and who is currently alive

Yonko:

Shanks [placed at one due to events at the end of Marineford, stopped Akainu and intimidated Blackbeard who was holding his own against Sengoku]
Blackbeard
Kaido [still unable to see capabilities]
Big mam [can argue the same]

Warlords:

Mihawk [number one based on duels with Shanks]
Kuma [do i really need to go into why]
Doflamingo
Law [took down Vergo, however got stomped by 'Mingo, albeit an Admiral was there also]
Jinbei
Crocodile
Hancock
Buggy

Admirals:

Akainu
Aokiji
Kizaru
Fujitora [only 4th as we are unaware of his full capabilities]

[have left Garp and Sengoku out on purpose, as sengoku is no longer an admiral and Garp never was either, however we all know they are tough]

 

[iSpeak]

Kuma can sometimes be underrated but also overrated and you're doing the latter at the moment. The M3, Law and people at their level could do what Kuma did to the pre timeskip SHs. Mihawk has much greater hype than any Warlord.

Kuma is faaaaaaar more underrated than he is underrated. Mihawk is the most overrated Warlord simply because he had clashes Shanks years back. Gecko Moria was said to have fought equally with Kaido the strongest "creature", why isnt he at the top?
#1 swordsman barely means anything to Kuma seeing as he isn't a swordsman...
Anyway, explain to me how I am overrating Kuma. One thing I dont like about OP discussions is that hardly anyone goes by feats or matchups etc, just hype.

Lets look at feats and tell me where im wrong. They both share the same reaction feat (being able to counter a G2 attack from Luffy), although Mihawks feat was a premonition. Kuma easily has faster speed feats, being able to transport himself somewhere else near instantly. Mihawk missed a point blank slice aimed at Luffy and another got intercepted by Jozu from a long distance. So his slashed should barely pose a problem for Kuma and get deflected easily. A touch to Mihawk and it is basically over. Kuma is a bad matchup for Mihawk, from what we have seen anyway.

 

[Hijey]

Kuma is faaaaaaar more underrated than he is underrated. Mihawk is the most overrated Warlord simply because he had clashes Shanks years back. Gecko Moria was said to have fought equally with Kaido the strongest "creature", why isnt he at the top?
#1 swordsman barely means anything to Kuma seeing as he isn't a swordsman...
Anyway, explain to me how I am overrating Kuma. One thing I dont like about OP discussions is that hardly anyone goes by feats or matchups etc, just hype.

Lets look at feats and tell me where im wrong. They both share the same reaction feat (being able to counter a G2 attack from Luffy), although Mihawks feat was a premonition. Kuma easily has faster speed feats, being able to transport himself somewhere else near instantly. Mihawk missed a point blank slice aimed at Luffy and another got intercepted by Jozu from a long distance. So his slashed should barely pose a problem for Kuma and get deflected easily. A touch to Mihawk and it is basically over. Kuma is a bad matchup for Mihawk, from what we have seen anyway.

Not what I've been seeing on this place anyways. He seems to be more on the overrated side. Mihawk's hype does not come from fighting Shanks in the past and it's clear from his title that he is improved enough since those days to still be on the same ballpark as Shanks. Moria sat on his ass for a decade and did not improve as much as Kaido did which is why he's not at the top.

For one, he doesn't have as much hype as someone like Mihawk. Rayleigh, who is weaker than Mihawk, stalemated Kizaru and was portrayed to be as strong as Kizaru and these two guys have also much better hype than Kuma as well. Rayleigh was said to be 100 times stronger than Luffy and Co and an exhausted Zoro was fast enough to dodge two attacks from Kuma one of which that were light speed which Zoro perfectly evaded. Mihawk said he wouldn't show mercy to Luffy but since he's so much stronger than him, he went easy on him. Having a one shot ability is a bonus but having it doesn't automatically mean you're stronger than someone who doesn't. Mihawk too needs one slash to finish him off and so do swordsmens in general while a brawler like Luffy doesn't yet he's stronger than say Zoro. In One Piece, match up don't matter as much because of haki and it only matter if you're super close. Blackbeard will be bad match up for Luffy but that won't stop him from beating the crap out of them.

 

[ToshiZO]

Kuma is faaaaaaar more underrated than he is underrated. Mihawk is the most overrated Warlord simply because he had clashes Shanks years back. Gecko Moria was said to have fought equally with Kaido the strongest "creature", why isnt he at the top?
#1 swordsman barely means anything to Kuma seeing as he isn't a swordsman...
Anyway, explain to me how I am overrating Kuma. One thing I dont like about OP discussions is that hardly anyone goes by feats or matchups etc, just hype.

Lets look at feats and tell me where im wrong. They both share the same reaction feat (being able to counter a G2 attack from Luffy), although Mihawks feat was a premonition. Kuma easily has faster speed feats, being able to transport himself somewhere else near instantly. Mihawk missed a point blank slice aimed at Luffy and another got intercepted by Jozu from a long distance. So his slashed should barely pose a problem for Kuma and get deflected easily. A touch to Mihawk and it is basically over. Kuma is a bad matchup for Mihawk, from what we have seen anyway.

If we were talking about Kuma pre Marineford, than I would place him top 3, but brainless Kuma doesn't seem to utilize his DF ability to its potential, thus he is definitely not top 3 anymore imo. He was suffering heavy damages just from guarding the SH's ship

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, also during the War he chose to tank everything rather than deflect or use his speed

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Mihawk is not just the most overrated Warlord, he's one of the most overrated characters period.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Because I put them at #1? Dafuq is wrong with you. Kuma is heavily underrated... judging from what he has shown he is a complete beast and I cant really see any other Shibukai defeating him. I placed Dofla up there because he is going off at the moment but im sure once he is defeated and shows his weaknesses it will bring him down a bit.

You do realize that Mihawk is at Yonkou level (Because he and Shanks are rivals in strength)and Doflamingo is scared of Kaidou (a Yonkou) right?

If Doflamingo is the top Shichibukai why is he the first major enemy they must defeat? If Luffy can beat Doflamingo now (probably after Viola shoots him: I called it here!!) then Zoro can already beat Mihawk whom you say is below Doflamingo. What's the point in the worlds strongest swordsman being that low down the pecking order?

You clearly love to beat off to a bit of "fufufu"

 

[iSpeak]

Not what I've been seeing on this place anyways. He seems to be more on the overrated side. Mihawk's hype does not come from fighting Shanks in the past and it's clear from his title that he is improved enough since those days to still be on the same ballpark as Shanks. Moria sat on his ass for a decade and did not improve as much as Kaido did which is why he's not at the top.

For one, he doesn't have as much hype as someone like Mihawk. Rayleigh, who is weaker than Mihawk, stalemated Kizaru and was portrayed to be as strong as Kizaru and these two guys have also much better hype than Kuma as well. Rayleigh was said to be 100 times stronger than Luffy and Co and an exhausted Zoro was fast enough to dodge two attacks from Kuma one of which that were light speed which Zoro perfectly evaded. Mihawk said he wouldn't show mercy to Luffy but since he's so much stronger than him, he went easy on him. Having a one shot ability is a bonus but having it doesn't automatically mean you're stronger than someone who doesn't. Mihawk too needs one slash to finish him off and so do swordsmens in general while a brawler like Luffy doesn't yet he's stronger than say Zoro. In One Piece, match up don't matter as much because of haki and it only matter if you're super close. Blackbeard will be bad match up for Luffy but that won't stop him from beating the crap out of them.

All you have done is bring up hype which has no relevance to Kuma...I have assessed what they have both shown and came with a conclusion. Was there anything I said that was wrong? From what we have seen Kuma takes this. I dont know why people fall into hype so much in OP. That whole A>B>C logic your trying to use doesn't work. This aint DBZ. If you think Mihawk will win, explain to me how.

If we were talking about Kuma pre Marineford, than I would place him top 3, but brainless Kuma doesn't seem to utilize his DF ability to its potential, thus he is definitely not top 3 anymore imo. He was suffering heavy damages just from guarding the SH's ship

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, also during the War he chose to tank everything rather than deflect or use his speed

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Yupp I was talking about Kuma pre Marinford. Kuma post Marinford is usually referred to as PX-0.

Mihawk is not just the most overrated Warlord, he's one of the most overrated characters period.

Ahh at least there is someone else who can see this lol.

You do realize that Mihawk is at Yonkou level (Because he and Shanks are rivals in strength)and Doflamingo is scared of Kaidou (a Yonkou) right?

If Doflamingo is the top Shichibukai why is he the first major enemy they must defeat? If Luffy can beat Doflamingo now (probably after Viola shoots him: I called it here!!) then Zoro can already beat Mihawk whom you say is below Doflamingo. What's the point in the worlds strongest swordsman being that low down the pecking order?

You clearly love to beat off to a bit of "fufufu"

Yawn. The last time Mihawk fought with Shanks was at least 12 years ago! Shanks probably wasn't even Yonko then. Gekko Moria was said to have once fought equaliy with Kaido, now tell me he is Yonko level aswell.

What does Luffy defeating Dofla have to do with him being above Mihawk? It is clear that Dofla is far beyond Luffy atm, seeing what he did to Law. If Luffy wins now, it will be due to plot. Judging who is stronger by the order they are defeated is simply stupid. You reasoning is so weak lmao.

Like I said before he will probably move down once I see his weaknesses. His DF is still quite sketchy to me.

 

[minato93]

Yonkou's
1. Whitebeard
2. Shanks
3. Blackbeard
4. Kaido
5. Big Mom

Warlords
1. Mihawk
2. Doflamingo
3. Law....Should be Kuma if he had a consciousness.
4. Kuma
5. Boa
6. Jimbei
7. Cro-boy...........He'll be exposed to have been a girl though...So Cro-girl

Admirals
1. Akainu
2. Aokiji
3. Kizaru
4. Sengoku/Fuji

Garp was never an admiral.

 

[nasuke242]

I'll do a list of only alive/current people and # 1= strongest
1. BlackBeard
2. Shanks
3. Kaido
4. Big Mom
Shichibukai
1. Mihawk
2. Kuma
3. Doflamingo
4. Law
5. Hancock
6. Buggy
Admirals
1. Akainu
2. Kizaru
3. Fujitora