[VS] Hashirama vs. Hokage

[AGoodBoy]

The hokage win.

Minato can spread kunai so far that it

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of Shinshuu, giving the hokage ample space to play with and dodge hashi's entire arsenal. and, he spread those kunai before the other kage arrived, before a tbb could merk the alliance.
Tobirama alone can

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of mokuton at a time.
Hiruzen no diff smashes through mokuton with a pole.[

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Hiruzen's elemental attacks are easily big enough to destroy mokuton.
Tsunade can share and heal the lot.
When hashi summons mokujin, The hokage teleport far away to one of the several spread kunai, tsunade shares some chakra, and minato summons the

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who then proceed to shit on mokujin and the rest of hashi's mokuton attacks with their

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, same way kyuubi

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(excluding the whole blowing up mountains).

When hashi finally summons shinshi, the hokage simply teleport to the kunai behind it and start slicing off it's arms with the attacks while the toads rampage it from all sides. When it turns, they teleport behind it again. Shinshuu's going down quick along with a massive chunk of hashi's chakra.

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Hokage med diff at best assuming tobirama and minato don't just blitz hashirama from the get go and tag him.

edit: Hashi has a reduced shinshu? Lmao. Hokage merk low diff. scenario is just too obvious to argue. Obviously hashi dies.

 

[KingHashirama]

Hmm.... Hashirama...... Minato and Tsunade are basically wood clone level... and can be handled by a wood clone. Only person who would really require Hashirama himself is his brother Tobirama.


Now I suppose this is PRIME Hashirama, meaning Hashirama at his strongest point.. and not the Grandpa Hashirama.


Anyone ever put Tobirama on Hashirama's level cause of FTG? nope. Hashirama was vastly stronger...due to the fact that he has many counters for FTG.


However, the Hokage might have a chance, depending on Tobirama.

 

[Ababeel]

Hashirama may or may not win the first scenario depending on how they handle the FTW. Hashirama loses the second scenario though if you mean all the Kages from every generation

There are too many ways, that jutsu is just overrated.

1- Hiruzen can use his wind + fire jutsus to deal with the trees and pollen.
2- Minato can summon Gamabounta to use the oil and Hiruzen use his fire with it to make something like this

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since madara was able to burn it easily

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3- Minato's shunshin or FTG

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he covered a huge area with his shunshin, I don't think that's tree is as big as this area!

anyway, I got tired already. lol

Minato & Tobirama landed a lot of jutsus against obito, the Juubi's host, and helped Naruto & Sasuke to land their attack.
Hashirama won't be harder than the Juubi's host. U_U

 

[Bogard]

There are too many ways, that jutsu is just overrated.

1- Hiruzen can use his wind + fire jutsus to deal with the trees and pollen.
2- Minato can summon Gamabounta to use the oil and Hiruzen use his fire with it to make something like this

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since madara was able to burn it easily

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3- Minato's shunshin or FTG

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he covered a huge area with his shunshin, I don't think that's tree is as big as this area!

anyway, I got tired already. lol

Minato & Tobirama landed a lot of jutsus against obito, the Juubi's host, and helped Naruto & Sasuke to land their attack.
Hashirama won't be harder than the Juubi's host. U_U

I already know this, but the problem is the execution speed to do all that when the Hokages are severely lacking in terms of knowledge. Reason why i stated it would depend on it. Though since Tobirama is Hashirama's brother, he may know it better than anyone

 

[KingHashirama]

Fans overrating FTG and saying it'll be dangerous for Hashirama, contradicts the very Manga, that show Hashirama was vastly above an experienced FTG user, with a bigger arsenal.

 

[KidGamer65]

Are you serious? :|
1- As you put in you scan

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2- The Buddha

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The Bijuu's side is ust as big as a finger of v1 Juubi

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while Kurama was clearly bigger than the Buddha hand!

Also, The TBB was much bigger than the Juubi as well, not to mention Minato can increase the size of the barrier
anyway. U_U

lol, what is this suppose to prove? The Juubi's tails are what make up most of that space that is circled, doesn't change the fact that PS and Mokujin are near the size of the main body and it doesn't change the fact that Shinsuusenju is far far far larger than Mokujin and PS, thus its larger than the Juubi.

The Bijuu Dama was slightly larger than the Juubi, slightly, Shinsuusenju is comfortably above it when it comes to size.

lol? Barrier? Minato uses touch to warp constructs away.

oh dear, this hashirama wank is so ridiculous.

1-

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The Gokage got away from that.

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madara had to attack them to get them in rank. How is that possible with two teleporters? Please, stop wanking Hashirama. :|

Last time I checked they could fly, please tell me how they are going to fly when Hiruzen, Minato, Tobirama or Tsunade have no kind of flight jutsu? Lmao, stop. The rest is irrelevant as they are in the air not on the ground.

Please don't accuse me of wank when you can't even form a decent argument.

who said if it's his own jutsu that he won't be effected? Hanzu was effected by his own poison, and so was Sasuke
by his chidiri!

Except this isn't Hanzo, this isn't Sasuke and his Chidori.

So common sense works when you need it to work, but it does not work if it's not in your side? Lol
The barrier was shown to redirect the attacks, it was never stated in the manga that if the attacks is from
Hashi then the barrier will automatically fail. :erm:

Tell me more about how S/T barrier is going to magically redirect Buddha's fists (That are connected to its arms) over to Hashirama. lmao, you sound foolish.

I can tell you how Buddha's fist make a pancake of a normal sized human. That's the difference between my argument and yours.

lol, the wank is real!
Then Hashi won't have a time to enter SM because they will cut his head before he even notice! Yes, the different
in speed is that big!

Stop wanking, speed is literally no issue here. He can enter SM in a matter of seconds. [

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] If they and try and blitz him (Its laughable you'd even suggest that Tobirama can blitz Hashirama) he claps his hand and Flower Tree World puts the Hokage to sleep.

lol, sorry, that just BS. Minato dealt with MUCH stronger stuff like the Juubi's TBB, and he was planing to even teleport
4 of the TBBs. What I see is just Hashi's wank. :eww:

Irrelevant to the point, S/T Barrier redirecting the Juubi's Bijuu Dama and him being able to redirect 1 Bijuu Dama (Go re-read the chapter pal) doesn't mean that they are going to defeat Shinsuusenju, by this logic I could say Minato would solo Hashirama, even though we all know that isn't true.

Buddha is nothing against the barrier until it's proven otherwise. :erm:
They can teleport it in no time to the see or anywhere else.

Having a marking at sea is prep. Sorry bud.

Not even gonna bother continuing to discuss anything with you, not when you casually assume I'm a wanker despite having a shitty argument. Lol

 

[TheSages456]

hashirama destroys them.

ftg isnt even a threat to hashirama.

madara, who hashirama is roughly equivalent with in cqc:

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did this to a hiraishin user:

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hashirama replicates this with any basic weapon he has like his swords, random katana, or even double wood dragons.


moving on, minato doesnt have the feats necessary to warp any large scale mokuton like shinsuusenju. that is nonsense.

PS/mokujin compared to the gates that held down the juubi.

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most of that space where the gates are were taken up by the juubis tails, not its main body:

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PS and the mokujin are roughly equivalent to the juubis main body in size, therefore shinsuusenju eclipses the juubi in size and this is discounting the thousand hands.


the size of the juubis bijudama when it was fired, was only a little bigger than the juubis main body:

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and again, a juubidama was only a little bigger than obitos juubidama tree which is roughly the same size as PS and the mokujin which is roughly the same size as the juubis main body:

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shinsuusenju is far beyond the size of anything that minato has been shown to be able to warp.

hiruzen cant make much of a difference. he gets destroyed by the mokujin. none of his techniques are anywhere near its scale.
his elemental jutsus cant damage the same mokujin that can tank slashes from madaras perfect susano:

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hashirama would beat the rest of the hokage.

 

[Champ]

Sage you're wrong Mokujin never tanked Susano'o sword cause the swipe missed him cause it was smaller than Susano'o.

 

[TheSages456]

Sage you're wrong Mokujin never tanked Susano'o sword cause the swipe missed him cause it was smaller than Susano'o.

i dont feel like wasting my time countering assumptions.

-PS and the mokujin clash.

-PS swings its sword at the mokujin.

-the mokujin is undamaged.

that is all the manga showed and there is no need to make things up.

 

[Champ]

Didn't make anything up. Perfect Susano'o is much larger than Mokujin and it's sword swipe missed.

 

[TheSages456]

Didn't make anything up. Perfect Susano'o is much larger than Mokujin and it's sword swipe missed.

the manga doesnt show the sword missing. thats your assumption and PS is not much larger than the mokujin.

 

[Champ]

The manga doesn't show the sword hitting him at all, and Perfect Susano'o is bigger than Mokujin

 

[TheSages456]

The manga doesn't show the sword hitting him at all, and Perfect Susano'o is bigger than Mokujin

well now this is just a case of you lying. its pointless for me to even try to argue anymore.

 

[Champ]

Alright, well I already said the sword missed Mokujin

 

[Avinash012]

Based on intel Hokages might be able to pull this,Flower tree world ain't doing anything against hokages,

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,Minato can cover that much high with his summoning,Minato can summon toad army to to fight against wood.I wonder how Mukojin is a probulem for kages,Unlike Susanoo there is no need to break Hashirama's defence here they can bypass it's attacks and get near Hashirama. so It is not a probulem for them.they can attack Hashirama with the help of toads against budha.

 

[WolfHaley]

If Hashirama doesn't have Shin Sūsenju, this could get interesting. Hiruzen's Bijuu sized elemental spam should tear down most of Hashirama's Mokuton.

 

[End of Days]

-Flower Tree World would put them to sleep.

you might wanna slow down with the flower tree world shit

the five kages canonically escaped it by going up in the air using gaara's sand [

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they also weren't inhaling the pollen as they could see it and tsunade warned everyone not to inhale it, (the pollen was concentrated along the flower sides)
madara had to sneak attack from behind (none of them are sensors) and push them down and use a katon [

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] and set the whole forest on fire

fire as you know consumes oxygen and if you are in its vicinity you will be forced to take in more air because of lack of oxygen
the air had pollen so the kages had no option but to breathe in more air and that finally led to kages going out of action

Minato can summon gamabunta (summoning jutsu are instant) and jump up to incredible heights (much higher than the juubi [

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He summoned gamabunta in an instant here [

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once in the air they can easily spread kunais to far away locations, Minato already did it alone anyway [

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] and at even greater heights they will reach even further and use ftg to get away

or once in air they can destroy it with katon (amplified with gamabunta's oil or tsunade's chakra) or blow it away (the pollen in their immediate vicinity) with fuuton again amplified with tsunade's chakra

another possible counter is jutsus like the barrier meant to contain the kyuubi which will stop all the mokuton branches and pollen [

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[Shura]

Minato wank again..

@On-Topic. Hashirama pounds Minato into the ground and the rest just stand there, watching and cheering on Hashirama. On a serious note, Hashirama wins the first scenario and I'm not sure about scenario 2.​

 

[AGoodBoy]

So madara rapes sm hashi in cqc, when he was in his nonchalant Edo form, but has hi can now replicate sm madara's cqc feats? Lmao the nonsense some people make up.

 

[KidGamer65]

So madara rapes sm hashi in cqc, when he was in his nonchalant Edo form, but has hi can now replicate sm madara's cqc feats? Lmao the nonsense some people make up.

We all know the bold didn't happen. We only saw Edo Madara vs Edo Hashirama (In Base) when it comes to CQC.

you might wanna slow down with the flower tree world shit

the five kages canonically escaped it by going up in the air using gaara's sand [

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they also weren't inhaling the pollen as they could see it and tsunade warned everyone not to inhale it, (the pollen was concentrated along the flower sides)
madara had to sneak attack from behind (none of them are sensors) and push them down and use a katon [

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] and set the whole forest on fire

fire as you know consumes oxygen and if you are in its vicinity you will be forced to take in more air because of lack of oxygen
the air had pollen so the kages had no option but to breathe in more air and that finally led to kages going out of action

Minato can summon gamabunta (summoning jutsu are instant) and jump up to incredible heights (much higher than the juubi [

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He summoned gamabunta in an instant here [

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once in the air they can easily spread kunais to far away locations, Minato already did it alone anyway [

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] and at even greater heights they will reach even further and use ftg to get away

or once in air they can destroy it with katon (amplified with gamabunta's oil or tsunade's chakra) or blow it away (the pollen in their immediate vicinity) with fuuton again amplified with tsunade's chakra

another possible counter is jutsus like the barrier meant to contain the kyuubi which will stop all the mokuton branches and pollen [

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] etc etc

Ok, I agree with your counter, but the outcome is still the same.