BSM Naruto> PS Sasuke
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Nice post, but Madara's PS didn't destroy those mountains, he sliced them as you can see in the scan and on the next page they said it
As for BSM, I find it funny that most people over look the fact that Naruto was never at full power when he went BSM unless you count Naruto being kicked out of his KM when he tried to go BM due to lack of chakra and it shows Kurama trying to gather more then he asked Yin Kurama for some chakra which Naruto and Minato both gave a lot of chakra to the alliance as noted by Choji and Hashirama. Then it got absorbed by the God tree shortly after. His second time of going BSM was after the God tree absorbed his chakra and most of Yin Kurama's as Minato said he was low on chakra yet Yin Kurama gave the rest of his chakra to Naruto so Naruto was barely at 50% power both times he went BSM which people compare to complete Susanoo and PS.
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. Even when fused with Kurama, he sliced then mountain's tops and not completely destroyed them as a tbb shown to do. I wouldn't put PS power over at least the 6 tails since Bijuus can just power up their attacks for more power where as PS can't. As for BSM, I find it funny that most people over look the fact that Naruto was never at full power when he went BSM unless you count Naruto being kicked out of his KM when he tried to go BM due to lack of chakra and it shows Kurama trying to gather more then he asked Yin Kurama for some chakra which Naruto and Minato both gave a lot of chakra to the alliance as noted by Choji and Hashirama. Then it got absorbed by the God tree shortly after. His second time of going BSM was after the God tree absorbed his chakra and most of Yin Kurama's as Minato said he was low on chakra yet Yin Kurama gave the rest of his chakra to Naruto so Naruto was barely at 50% power both times he went BSM which people compare to complete Susanoo and PS.
As I said previously, had written that some time ago, and I hadn't a similar about sasuke(I wrote that in a reply to another person).
1- I never said naruto can take amaterasu directly. However, there are ways for him to evade the technique. Naruto BSM can either: dodge it(he has sensing skills that can sense chakra and danger, and a speed much higher than raikage's(Naruto KCM was able to surpass the raikage, naruto BM is faster, and BSM even faster) or make chakra projections to shield them(shown in the thread)
2-The speed is not subjective at all. In KCM and BM, he has shown considerable speed feats. BSM is even faster, due to to the senjutsu boost. Obito is the jinchuriki of the juubi, probably the fastest shinobi shown in the series(except for FTG). Besides, naruto BSM was able to track and sense the same obito(so did sasuke). His speed and sensing feats aren't futile them.
3- I'm not underestimating enton. Sasuke can indeed spin to try to get rid of naruto's clones with enton. However, this doesn't mean they'll stand there and let it them. Enton was countered before(madara with the black rods, even though his arrow is extremelly fast). Naruto BSM clones can just track the defense/evade mechanism I mentioned. If sasuke is atacking naruto's bushin on by one, he might be opne for atacks and comboes of other bushins as well as the original naruto.
4- Surrouding him is an option. Can sasuke sense all of the continous bijuu damas coming at him, even when used by clones? And even if he anticipate them all, it's not a fact that he might set them all with amaterasu in time before some can get the hit.
For how long can sasuke keep enton covering his entire PS? Because when the bijuu damas hit the susanoo, they'll explode. Even if amaterasu starts to burn it, they'll get unstable and explode.
So, sasuke's "potential to counter all of naruto's atacks" is limited to some points.
The rest is speculation? Care to prove it?
Actually, the goubi tanked it. Checked the thread again. It was in the edo battl
That would be a good reason if Obito had nothing to do with what Zetsu said, Obito was sending Sasuke to the Kage summit, push him to overuse his eyes which is what happened. Zetsu watches all fights that involve the akatsuki and record them. He was going off of what he saw from both Sasuke and Naruto. This is a Naruto who is not fused to Ma and Pa toad and Sasuke without Susanoo.
We seen Kabuto's sound genjutsu take down Susanoo and frog song is much stronger since it paralyzes the nerves and mind so you can't move at all. Plus he can stay in SM as long as he wants fused with Ma and Pa toad plus can use wind style dust cloud to cover his movements and boiling oil that consist of wind+fire+oil.
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@4: But of course. If a 3-tomoe Sharingan can provide Sasuke the perceptive ability to dodge an elbow from a "maxed out Raiton-no=Yori" Ē at close range, then there is no doubt the Eternal Mangekyo could accurately pinpoint the location of seveal incoming Biju Dama and allot Sasuke a window to stop each by piercing it with an Enton-Senbon. From observing the duration to which Sasuke is thus far capable of utilizing Sharingan techniques, that is, a duration which far succeeds the time in which Kurama has been able to continuously sustain Naruto with it's Chakra; I would say it's not distant to believe that he could maintain it for majority of the battle.
@3: Naruto's clones sensing and evading again, remains subjective due to the above, in that they would only be able to do so if they are not hosting the entire Kyubi shroud. If they are not the situation barely changes as Chakra arms, Rasengan, and Cho-Mini-Bijudama aren't breaching Susano'o; the latter two making it necessary for the clones be within very close proximity of Sasuke or Susano'o leaving them as easy targets for an Amatearsu Spam [Waltz said:
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], after which they would be dispersed. The feather weight consumption of chakra the Eternal Mangekyo processes while in use give Sasuke more than enough potential to eventually disperse the Bunshin. @4: But of course. If a 3-tomoe Sharingan can provide Sasuke the perceptive ability to dodge an elbow from a "maxed out Raiton-no=Yori" Ē at close range, then there is no doubt the Eternal Mangekyo could accurately pinpoint the location of seveal incoming Biju Dama and allot Sasuke a window to stop each by piercing it with an Enton-Senbon. From observing the duration
1/2- Even when hosting the kyuubi avatar, he was able to react to obito's speed. Obito caught both him and sasuke, if you don't remember. And as I said, it's because he is obito, the jinchuriki of the juubi, fastest shinobi shown in the seris without space time ninjutsu. In any moment I said naruto is faster than obito.
Besides, naruto can cast out the cloak anytime, returning to his "human form", abd being able to acess his full speed.
3- They should be able to sense it(as sensing obito's movement was a fact, it happened, naruto would so be able to sense amaterasu as well), and as they can return to the "human form", they might as well dodge it. Besides, there is the other defense mechanism I mentioned(using the chakra projections) which is another way to evate sasuke's enton.
Agreed. However, bijuu damas have a great chance to damage sasuke's susanoo, and the clones can use them long-range, as well as defend themselves against amaterasu.
4- Honestly, it's debatable. Bijuu damas are fast, and continous bijuu damas too. If sasuke is surrounded by naruto's bushins, and they use such atack. It would be 20, maybe 30 bijuu damas if we inculde the original naruto, going at high speed towards sasuke. He would have to be fast enough to make a counter for all of this bijuu damas before they get too close and explode right in his face, or close too him which could still harm his susanoo.
Locate the position of 30 chakra bombs at high speed coming from all directions and counter all of them in no time(You also have to remember that bijuu damas aren't easy to be stopped) is something sasuke might not be able to do.
The next one is chapters after that. It was when hashirama was trying top stop juubito from busting the SA.
Nevertheless, you can see in the scan. Madara used the slash on the scan. It happened, goubi tanked it.
If its the next chapter couldn't Hashi have grown it back or created another one? If you are going to say that these events happened in sequence it has to be both ways
Looking at the picture it seems the slash was directed towards the arm. Most likely it regrew and grabbed the PS
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iFlowMotion
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Did they battle against each other under these conditions?....No did kishimoto state BSM Naruto>PS Sasuke no. Therefore it is your opinion. All you did what speculate and favor every way in naruto's favor. Again its your opinion nothing more.
