EMS Sauske vs Ay and Bee

[Avinash012]

Hachibi can cover himself of his limbs in order to protect the body against Amaterasu/enton attacks

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And either throw moves like Hachimaki or Bijuudamas:

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In this position he has nothing to fear about Amaterasu/enton that he can shrug of anytime without risks and at the same time finish off Sasuke with his higher end moves

I don't think covering his main body with tails would change anything as it'll still cause pain and I also don't think his tails are faster than Ama.
Do u think Samehada can absorb Amaterasu?If it can absorb it then how about Bee giving Samehada to Ay and Ay protecting Bee from Amaterasu using Samehada? It can do fine against Arrows as well IMO.

 

[Avinash012]

Nah, Enton and Amaterasu are different. If Enton was Amaterasu then in order to use Enton, Sasuke would have to cast Amaterasu first which is not the case. They use the same exact black flames though.

Ay is capable of defending Bee only if Bee is in base form so that Ay could grab Bee and help him escape it. If Bee tries to charge up a TBB, Sasuke's Arrow will intercept him before he does that and it will result in Bee probably being killed and the Bijuudama blowing up on his face. Not to mention that there are Perfect Susano'o Shockwaves which could easily tear up both of them. And it depends, Perfect Susano'o should be capable of tanking a few TBBs.​

I thought he uses Amaterasu with one eye and manipulates it with the other.

And for Ay,he can counter arrows by simply kicking them,I haven't seen Sasuke using multiple arrows at the same time so it shouldn't be a probulem for him.

 

[Bogard]

I don't think covering his main body with tails would change anything as it'll still cause pain and I also don't think his tails are faster than Ama.
Do u think Samehada can absorb Amaterasu?If it can absorb it then how about Bee giving Samehada to Ay and Ay protecting Bee from Amaterasu using Samehada? It can do fine against Arrows as well IMO.

He already reacted to Amaterasu with his tails during the first encounter when he had no knowledge on the jutsu. If you look it again, you'll realise Sasuke was targetting his head, but Hachibi put his tail in the middle to cover himself:

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[Shura]

And for Ay,he can counter arrows by simply kicking them,I haven't seen Sasuke using multiple arrows at the same time so it shouldn't be a probulem for him.

He already has;

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[Avinash012]

He already has;

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Oh nice find bro,I didn't noticed it. I still doubt whether the second one is an arrow or just one of the effect lines as Kakashi said that "my only option is to wrap it away".I thought that it was a single arrow as Kakashi referred it as it(singular).Iam not familiar with English sorry if Iam wrong about this.
Whatever I can see the arrow like shape so I won't argue about it, those arrows are too close to eachother so countering them at the same time shouldn't be a probulem for Ay.

And for that enton argument VIZ says that his left eye ignites Amaterasu and his right eye controls those flames so I guess Iam right about that.

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[miromiro]

Sasuke takes it with quite the struggle.

 

[Murasame]

There is no difference in both situations. Nothing implies he couldn't have done it on his own if not Sasuke. When we saw him later, he stated the clone Kawarimi was a last second plan he discovered on the spot, which means the only reason he never did it before Sasuke cuting his tail was because the idea never crossed his mind before, that's all

Sorry I left the computer while on this thread. Anyways can you show me that scan?

 

[KidGamer65]

Sasuke goes into PS and one shots them. He still wins without it since Ay is a non factor.

 

[adeshina365]

I thought he uses Amaterasu with one eye and manipulates it with the other.

And for Ay,he can counter arrows by simply kicking them,I haven't seen Sasuke using multiple arrows at the same time so it shouldn't be a probulem for him.

He can do that, but Enton is separate from Amaterasu.

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[Avinash012]

He already reacted to Amaterasu with his tails during the first encounter when he had no knowledge on the jutsu. If you look it again, you'll realise Sasuke was targetting his head, but Hachibi put his tail in the middle to cover himself:

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Ya ur right he actually stopped it with his tail but that won't help him against Amaterasu as he would still peel pain due to the fact that his tails are a part of his body.
Nice find btw.

He can do that, but Enton is separate from Amaterasu.

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I don't know how ther are different from regular Amaterasu and this Viz scan says he controls Amaterasu flames.

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[Shura]

I don't know how ther are different from regular Amaterasu and this Viz scan says he controls Amaterasu flames.

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He doesn't say that Amaterasu is neccessary, he just mentions how Sasuke can change the shape of Amaterasu. More so, C knows absolutely nothing about Enton and what is it so him making a mistake isn't unlikely. After-all, it has already been shown that Enton and Amaterasu are not the same.​

 

[Bogard]

Sorry I left the computer while on this thread. Anyways can you show me that scan?

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[Bronze]

Sasuke low-mid diff.

 

[Champ]

Sasuke. Final Susano'o tanks all their attacks, Bee get lit up by Amaterasu. A can't really do nothing.

 

[Avinash012]

He doesn't say that Amaterasu is neccessary, he just mentions how Sasuke can change the shape of Amaterasu. More so, C knows absolutely nothing about Enton and what is it so him making a mistake isn't unlikely. After-all, it has already been shown that Enton and Amaterasu are not the same.​

He is a sensor,he can clearly observe the jutsu's ,nothing from manga hints that Enton flames are different from Ama exept for names ,Sasuke even

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I can't see a reason for him to to confuse over it even after hearing that name from Sasuke.

 

[Shura]

He is a sensor,he can clearly observe the jutsu's ,nothing from manga hints that Enton flames are different from Ama exept for names ,Sasuke even

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I can't see a reason for him to to confuse over it even after hearing that name from Sasuke.

Saying that C would know how Enton works by just being a sensor is illogical. He can only sense the Chakra build up and movement. Sensory capabilities don't tell him what Sasuke does or how Enton works. Sasuke didn't shout the name. He did so in his mind since as you can clearly see, that is not a speech bubble nor were Sasuke's mouths open.​

 

[Ahmed1993]

May i remind you he countered that with a clone kawarimi?

May i remind you that it was because Sasuke cut his tentacle that he could do it in the first place ?

 

[Murasame]

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And he still had to rely on Sasuke to lose some limbs because he couldn't do it on his own the pain he was experiencing with amaterasu unless you believed he faked it. Either way it won't matter even if he can escape it Sasuke can just light him up again when he uses the tail to escape (assuming that op didn't take away this knowledge)

 

[Avinash012]

Saying that C would know how Enton works by just being a sensor is illogical. He can only sense the Chakra build up and movement. Sensory capabilities don't tell him what Sasuke does or how Enton works. Sasuke didn't shout the name. He did so in his mind since as you can clearly see, that is not a speech bubble nor were Sasuke's mouths open.​

IMO He can tell the difference b/w tow different jutsu's as well due to the fact that sensors can predict the jutsu based on chakra build up. and alot of names of jutsu in Naruto are mentioned like that so that doesn't mean that he is not shouting the name.

Each MS eye has an unique ability,one eye of Sasuke can pull Amaterasu and the other can control black flames, unless u think one of Sasuke's eye can use 2 different abilities,it is nothing more than Amaterasu.I think we are doing this pointlessly as it is clear as day Sasuke wins this according to conditions in OP.I have mentioned pretty much everything I can to support my argument if u still diagree then let us agree to disagree.

Btw Iam talking about Sasuke with the feats that we have seen till now(Kyuubi sized PS) ,if ur talking about Sasuke with Madara level/any close level PS then Sasuke takes this pretty easily.

 

[Bogard]

And he still had to rely on Sasuke to lose some limbs because he couldn't do it on his own the pain he was experiencing with amaterasu unless you believed he faked it. Either way it won't matter even if he can escape it Sasuke can just light him up again when he uses the tail to escape (assuming that op didn't take away this knowledge)

Since when you can't move when you're in pain? Obito was in pain, didn't stop him to warp the flames. Someone like Madara didn't even feel the pain. All Hachibi has to do is to cover himself with his limbs in order not to receive the attack on the body and he could dodge that thing anytime. On the other hand, he can finish off Sasuke in the meantime with continous Bijudamas something Sasuke can't counter