Tsunade vs Goldkage

[Draegod]

I was unaware an old woman needed an antidote to breakdance. Zzz

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My logic states, If poison, he has something going for him. That's IF he hits you. An old ass woman who probably had a bad hip dodged his attacks, faster shinobi can't? Lmfao. People like kakashi just go underground, and popup right under him with a raikiri.

3rd Kazekage <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< My fave. In fact, 3/5 of my top 5 faves shits on this guy. One of those 3 being gaara Lol

lmao So apparently that's the only way he can poison you? Not through air or liquids???? That was sasori playing with CHiyo, like literally playing with her. He has 298 puppets, so your saying they have no way to poison you either? Plus the fact with the 3rd and sasori a fight did not happen. There was no trace of anything which suggest (if you have common sense) that it was a assassination that the 3rd did not have a chance against. There was no fight, just he up and vanished. Fun fact: Sasori's posion doesnt kill you asap, and he needs you to be alive to turn you into a puppet. 1+1=????? If you still havent figured it out Ill tell you bro.

 

[AGoodBoy]

lmao So apparently that's the only way he can poison you? Not through air or liquids????That was sasori playing with CHiyo, like literally playing with her. He has 298 puppets, so your saying they have no way to poison you either? Plus the fact with the 3rd and sasori a fight did not happen. There was no trace of anything which suggest (if you have common sense) that it was a assassination that the 3rd did not have a chance against. There was no fight, just he up and vanished. Fun fact: Sasori's posion doesnt kill you asap, and he needs you to be alive to turn you into a puppet. 1+1=????? If you still havent figured it out Ill tell you bro.

I didn't no ninja couldn't hold their breath... Oh wait, sakura did.
Please show me this liquid attack.
Chiyo owned 100 puppets with 10.
So, you're saying, 3rd kazekage is so stupid/so useless that anyone can just up and assassinate him in a village based on poison based fighting? That why orochimaru assassinated 4th kazekage too right?

Even orochimaru put up a fight when sasuke tried to assassinate him when he was crippled in a bed. Even itachi put up a fight when naruto tried to surprise attack him with bushin. Even minato put up a fight when obito tried to surprise assassinate him, his wife and his son.
Even gaara, a 6 year old, put up a fight when his father kept trying to assassinate him almost everyday.
Just admit it, sasori put this guy in his briefcase Lol

 

[Avinash012]

4th Kazakage is pretty much featless but still 4th Kazakage takes this assuming that he can use Gaara's abilities atleast to some extent.

Btw why are u guys arguing about 3rd Kazakage?

 

[AGoodBoy]

4th Kazakage is pretty much featless but still 4th Kazakage takes this assuming that he can use Gaara's abilities atleast to some extent.

Btw why are u guys arguing about 3rd Kazakage?

Because "3rd kazekage solos 99% of NV" apparently.
BTW, it's unlikely 4th kazekage has a shtload of useful jutsu of gaara.

Sand hail, sand arms, Sand pyramid, Dessert sinking sand, sand coffin, sand armor. There's nothing suggesting those can work with magnetism.

even flying on sand(something gaara was doing, yet he never did to bring himself off the ground knowing gaara has sand arms).

 

[Draegod]

I didn't no ninja couldn't hold their breath... Oh wait, sakura did.
Please show me this liquid attack.
Chiyo owned 100 puppets with 10.
So, you're saying, 3rd kazekage is so stupid/so useless that anyone can just up and assassinate him in a village based on poison based fighting? That why orochimaru assassinated 4th kazekage too right?

Even orochimaru put up a fight when sasuke tried to assassinate him when he was crippled in a bed. Even itachi put up a fight when naruto tried to surprise attack him with bushin. Even minato put up a fight when obito tried to surprise assassinate him, his wife and his son.
Even gaara, a 6 year old, put up a fight when his father kept trying to assassinate him almost everyday.
Just admit it, sasori put this guy in his briefcase Lol

You dont get it! Damn i though you were smarter then this!

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First Off the 3rd was a Genius the likes of No other So please Be quiet about his intellect! Then it states He vasished with out a trace! As in there was NO FIGHT SCENE! A fight never happened! It was more of a sneak assault planned by one of the top ninjas at that time (Sasori) who knew the Sand village in and out. Sasori has a jutsu to brainwash ninjas

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and no one would know but him. Why couldn't he do that to a chef with the 3rds food???? Do you not get how smart Sasori is???? Sasori knew the Sand in and out and had many spys, so ofc his plan was perfectly executed!

Sasuke didn't assassinate Oru, he destroyed his Door and let it known that he was going to try to kill a WEAKENED ORU! Then on top of that that was not a sneak attack or planned to be under cover. So why bring that up again? Do you know was an assassination is or planned sneak attack means?

Gaara who's sand auto protects... You sound retarded for bringing this up. Gaara never knew when they would Attack him, he just knew to expect it. And the sand Protected him no matter if he knew or not (Fact). SO why bring that up again???

And again in the minato Reference; Obito perfectly infiltrated there base and killed all the top guards with out minato knowing. And even killed Sarutobis wife while they were in the same room! ANDDDDDDDDDDDDD grabbed naruto before they knew! Do you even read the manga???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


What grade are you in btw? Serious Question...

 

[Draegod]

Because "3rd kazekage solos 99% of NV" apparently.
BTW, it's unlikely 4th kazekage has a shtload of useful jutsu of gaara.

Sand hail, sand arms, Sand pyramid, Dessert sinking sand, sand coffin, sand armor. There's nothing suggesting those can work with magnetism.

even flying on sand(something gaara was doing, yet he never did to bring himself off the ground knowing gaara has sand arms).

When did i say 3rd solo's 99% of NV???? You need to read! I stated Poison! And that is a fact!

 

[Avinash012]

Because "3rd kazekage solos 99% of NV" apparently.
BTW, it's unlikely 4th kazekage has a shtload of useful jutsu of gaara.

Sand hail, sand arms, Sand pyramid, Dessert sinking sand, sand coffin, sand armor. There's nothing suggesting those can work with magnetism.

even flying on sand(something gaara was doing, yet he never did to bring himself off the ground knowing gaara has sand arms).

Lol Kazakage's are shit (exept for Gaara),they are Low kage level at best.

And Ya I guess ur right but I think he can pull some of those jutsu's ,what is the point of manipulating sand if he can't use any of those jutsu's? His main fighting style is same as that of Gaara and is strong enough to stop 1tails rampage ,he has the advantage over Tsunade due to the fact that he is a long range type. so, I can't see Tsunade winning this.

 

[Shura]

Lol Kazakage's are shit (exept for Gaara),they are Low kage level at best.

Third Kazekage is in no way ''Low Kage level at best''. Lmao. No, just no. The fact that he possesses the Satetsu and was stated to be more powerful than Gaara multiple times, this is not true at all.​

 

[AGoodBoy]

When did i say 3rd solo's 99% of NV???? You need to read! I stated Poison! And that is a fact!

oops sorry, mixed up the wrong one. That's right, what you said was third solo's most kage low-mid diff.

@avianish. His fighting style uses magnetism to indirectly manipulate sand. Gaara's fighting style uses direct manipulation. Furthermore, gaara was a jin and learnt things like sand arm like that.

Anyway, 3rd/4th's biggest advantage over someone like gaara's fighting style, is that anyone who uses ninja tools is going to die because metal won't work on them. That's what makes them strong. However, gaara don't use metallic shit, so he 2 panels them no diff Lol

You dont get it! Damn i though you were smarter then this!

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First Off the 3rd was a Genius the likes of No other So please Be quiet about his intellect! Then it states He vasished with out a trace! As in there was NO FIGHT SCENE! A fight never happened! It was more of a sneak assault planned by one of the top ninjas at that time (Sasori) who knew the Sand village in and out. Sasori has a jutsu to brainwash ninjas

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and no one would know but him. Why couldn't he do that to a chef with the 3rds food???? Do you not get how smart Sasori is???? Sasori knew the Sand in and out and had many spys, so ofc his plan was perfectly executed!

Sasuke didn't assassinate Oru, he destroyed his Door and let it known that he was going to try to kill a WEAKENED ORU! Then on top of that that was not a sneak attack or planned to be under cover. So why bring that up again? Do you know was an assassination is or planned sneak attack means?

Gaara who's sand auto protects... You sound retarded for bringing this up. Gaara never knew when they would Attack him, he just knew to expect it. And the sand Protected him no matter if he knew or not (Fact). SO why bring that up again???

And again in the minato Reference; Obito perfectly infiltrated there base and killed all the top guards with out minato knowing. And even killed Sarutobis wife while they were in the same room! ANDDDDDDDDDDDDD grabbed naruto before they knew! Do you even read the manga???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


What grade are you in btw? Serious Question...

With the minato reference, all those people weren't a kage. Which is the point here. So, them dying is absolutely irrelevant.
6 yo gaara wasn't a kage either. Auto sand or not, he was just a kid with a defence that the assassins knew about (considering it happened every damn time). Yet, gaara still fought back and killed them. His auto defence doesn't kill.


Sasuke burst through the door and made it obvious...? Are you kidding me draegord?

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The guy just ripped his chidori sword right through the door and at orochimaru's heart. Do you know how fast his chidori lance is, or do you need scans with deidara and itachi? Orochimaru still defended himself. which is the point.

Anyway, as to your 'poison' argument. Valid. Sure, that's possible. However, the guy literally lives in a village with puppeteers known to use poison. I mean, come on. Regardless of what sasori did, he should always be prepared for assassination. You think People don't try to assassinate presidents? Do you know there are many dictators who they attempted to kill with poison but failed? And that's people outside their village who had to go through all the trouble. All you're saying is that this guy put up so little a fight that there was no trace.

I'm not in a 'grade' btw.

 

[Avinash012]

Third Kazekage is in no way ''Low Kage level at best''. Lmao. No, just no. The fact that he possesses the Satetsu and was stated to be more powerful than Gaara multiple times, this is not true at all.​

Is that why he lost to 3rd Kazakageless Sasori who is a kage level shinobi with 3rd Kazakage's puppet?

 

[Shura]

Is that why he lost to 3rd Kazakageless Sasori who is a kage level shinobi with 3rd Kazakage's puppet?

Alright. Now give me a scan of Sasori fighting him. Sasori has countless of more Human Puppets in his arsenal and is good at sneak/poison attacks. We know absolutely nothing about what Sasori did in order to defeat him. As far as we know, Sasori could have poisoned him.​

 

[Avinash012]

Alright. Now give me a scan of Sasori fighting him. Sasori has countless of more Human Puppets in his arsenal and is good at sneak/poison attacks. We know absolutely nothing about what Sasori did in order to defeat him. As far as we know, Sasori could have poisoned him.​

Excuses,Regardless Sasori with 3rd kazakage > Sasori without him and he lost to a weak version of Sasori.
That poison statement is pointless here,that just proves that he is not even skilled enough to be carefull about a missing nin.

 

[sharingansennin]

Tsunade mentions Orochimaru's name; and the Fodderkage cowers in fear; being afraid to get neg diff'd again.

To be fair Kabuto, Kimimaro, and Orochimaru were there they could have assassinated or tagteamed him

 

[AGoodBoy]

i like how the only defence to how sasori has 3rd kazekage puppet is that he's somehow they only kage in the show who couldn't handle a sneak assassination attempt...

Must be the first guy ever to have had an attempt on his life.

 

[Shura]

Excuses,Regardless Sasori with 3rd kazakage > Sasori without him and he lost to a weak version of Sasori.
That poison statement is pointless here,that just proves that he is not even skilled enough to be carefull about a missing nin.

Lmfao. What? Excuses? Once again, give me a scan of Sasori defeating the Sandaime Kazekage in an actual fight. Be careful around a missing nin? Sasori at that time was a shinobi of Sunagakure. He managed to trick the whole damn village. Obviously, you can't simply be careful around Sasori in order to avoid death. He has many ways of pulling off an assassination. Especially since he has a mind control technique in his arsenal that would allow him to control the shinobi most loyal to the Sandaime Kazekage.

If you believe that the Sandaime Kazekage would lose to Sasori without the Kazekage Puppet then you must believe that Sasori without the Kazekage Puppet would beat Gaara as well?​

 

[Avinash012]

Lmfao. What? Excuses? Once again, give me a scan of Sasori defeating the Sandaime Kazekage in an actual fight. Be careful around a missing nin? Sasori at that time was a shinobi of Sunagakure. He managed to trick the whole damn village. Obviously, you can't simply be careful around Sasori in order to avoid death. He has many ways of pulling off an assassination. Especially since he has a mind control technique in his arsenal that would allow him to control the shinobi most loyal to the Sandaime Kazekage.

If you believe that the Sandaime Kazekage would lose to Sasori without the Kazekage Puppet then you must believe that Sasori without the Kazekage Puppet would beat Gaara as well?​

Is it just me or ur really not reading manga properly?

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Sasori said that

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,with this it can be implied that Sasori defeated him in a fair battle.

P2 intro Sasori - 3rd Kazakage's puppet - 10Y experience and growth of Sasori > 3rd Kazakage.

 

[Shura]

Is it just me or ur really not reading manga properly?

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Sasori said that

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,with this it can be implied that Sasori defeated him in a fair battle.

P2 intro Sasori - 3rd Kazakage's puppet - 10Y experience and growth of Sasori > 3rd Kazakage.

-> Tells me that I don't read the manga properly.
-> Links me to a scan and says that the Kazekage was kidnapped 10 years ago, but in the same scan Chiyo says ''It was more than 10 years ago..''

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Once again, Sasori tricked a whole damn village. You can't simply ''be careful'' around Sasori to survive. Sasori said that killing him was in a pain in the ass, yes, but that can also imply that Sasori had to collect all kinds of subordinates and items in order to pull of an attack that could fool the whole village.​

 

[Draegod]

oops sorry, mixed up the wrong one. That's right, what you said was third solo's most kage low-mid diff.

@avianish. His fighting style uses magnetism to indirectly manipulate sand. Gaara's fighting style uses direct manipulation. Furthermore, gaara was a jin and learnt things like sand arm like that.

Anyway, 3rd/4th's biggest advantage over someone like gaara's fighting style, is that anyone who uses ninja tools is going to die because metal won't work on them. That's what makes them strong. However, gaara don't use metallic shit, so he 2 panels them no diff Lol


With the minato reference, all those people weren't a kage. Which is the point here. So, them dying is absolutely irrelevant.
6 yo gaara wasn't a kage either. Auto sand or not, he was just a kid with a defence that the assassins knew about (considering it happened every damn time). Yet, gaara still fought back and killed them. His auto defence doesn't kill.


Sasuke burst through the door and made it obvious...? Are you kidding me draegord?

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The guy just ripped his chidori sword right through the door and at orochimaru's heart. Do you know how fast his chidori lance is, or do you need scans with deidara and itachi? Orochimaru still defended himself. which is the point.

Anyway, as to your 'poison' argument. Valid. Sure, that's possible. However, the guy literally lives in a village with puppeteers known to use poison. I mean, come on. Regardless of what sasori did, he should always be prepared for assassination. You think People don't try to assassinate presidents? Do you know there are many dictators who they attempted to kill with poison but failed? And that's people outside their village who had to go through all the trouble. All you're saying is that this guy put up so little a fight that there was no trace.

I'm not in a 'grade' btw.

Fact; The 3rd mimicked his style from previous Shukkaku host (who was a more perfect jin then Shukaku Gaara was btw, since they were on the same page).

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He can make any shape, any form at will no diff. So If you are not bright enough, just picture a form or shape.. He can make what ever you just pictured in your head just now! Fact! So anything Gaara has shown, he can preform for the most part! Sand shower??? Iron sand shower! etc etc

Gaara had the advantage when he fought his Dad in the DESERT! Because of the amount of sand he had off bat with out having to make new sand. So he had enough sand to raise it from under the Gold dust faster then normal. No attack Gaara possess can Break through Iron sand, yet Iron sand can break through his regular sand as well as make it heavy to use. SO no, it isnt "2 panels"

What is your point? Minato was present yet didn't know the ninjas all died and tobi entered the room, killed Sarutobi's Wife and everyone else then Grabbed naruto all while minato was present (that is a successful sneak attack if you use common sense). He never ever wanted to kill minato in the first place, he wanted to get the fox which minato was at the time right in front of. If he wanted to he could have struck the 2 easily! And how do you know the guards wern't kage level ninjas? Kakashi and Guy are jonin yet they are "kage lv ninjas" correct? Show scans of their ranks please!

And on top of that How do you know the 3rd wasn't attacked or assassinated in his sleep? Or the person feeding him didnt poison him? It was a successful sneak attack and kidnapp. What more do you need? It happens in real life as well. many factors are included when it happens. Especially the fact Sasori had Suna's best body guards as his pawns so that should be proof enough that they played a part or how smart and well planned Sasori is as a ninja.

The Oru and sasuke fight still ehh? It was obv it was afight wth trace of a fight. Oru even had time to place his arms up and block for crying out loud. Sasuke didn't want it to be a sneak attack, he made it known he was trying to kill oru. Period! Fact! And he waited for Oru to be near death to do it.

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He literally stood there talking to oru. That isn't a assassination nor kidnapp nor wanting to make it a quick in and out situation. Dafuq are you reading????????? The door is literally destroyed (trace of a confrontation). Nothing like sasori's situation.

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Please be quite about the gaara situation. Its a fact if it wasnt for his sand he would be dead. It's an auto def, and just because they knew it would protect doesn't mean they wouldn't still try to kill him. They had to keep trying because that was there job! To the best of their abilities (this ninja using kunais) they attempted and failed. They did successful sneak attacks, but couldn't successfully kill their targets. You simply do not get it even though a child does.

And why would I think of one of my top ninjas Betraying me let alone a brainwashed body guard that protects me night and day kill me? He didn't have the same protection Hanzou had, he had regular village protection. That's it. Even Hiruzen (A hokage) got ambushed and grabbed while most the village was in attendance. It happens! 2nd Hokage and 2nd Raikage got ****ed up (2 kages helping each other at that) by KinGin Bros, and their body guards and village was in attendance while it happened successfully! Do you not get it???? It happens and it happened too many other kages in the manga not just him. It's just with him it was a quick no fight or trace kidnap. In and out! If you still do not get it im out!

 

[Avinash012]

-> Tells me that I don't read the manga properly.
-> Links me to a scan and says that the Kazekage was kidnapped 10 years ago, but in the same scan Chiyo says ''It was more than 10 years ago..''?

Once again, Sasori tricked a whole damn village. You can't simply ''be careful'' around Sasori to survive. Sasori said that killing him was in a pain in the ass, yes, but that can also imply that Sasori had to collect all kinds of subordinates and items in order to pull of an attack that could fool the whole village.​

10Y ago doesn't mean that it is 20Y,if it is any close to 20Y then she would have said 15Y or 14 or 18 or 19 but she said 10Y which means that it is obviously after Sasori left the village.
No matter how many excuses u come up with ,they are all use less ,Sasori killed 3rd Kazakage without his full power : Manga fact.He is a kage, he should be carefull about his own men as well ,if that dude is not even skilled enough to do that then he is not even worthy of being a kage,let alone strongest kage in their village.
If he can capture the strongest Kazakage by using his fodder subordinates then why didn't he do that to Gaara?

 

[Joker]

To be fair Kabuto, Kimimaro, and Orochimaru were there they could have assassinated or tagteamed him

That was filler material