[Theory] Kings haki full power(Breakdown)

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Okay before I get to my main points you have to be open minded before reading this. Never in Op has Oda introduced askill and hasn't expanded on it. Lets use some other Haki examples so I can prove Oda's expansions of Haki and how it will be in the future. Please read the full thread and give it a chance before you bash it.

1)Color of Arnaments
User:Vergo
Expansion-Full body arnaments haki

2)Color of Observation
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Expansion-Able to see within the future

These 2 are just example to show you Oda's expansion for Haki the list could go on but I don't feel like putting debatable arnament Haki uses like Asura and Diable Jambe so let stay focused on the point.

Monkey D Luffy Breakdown-Sure Kings Haki can knock out fodder. But knocking out fodder isn't going to make Luffy PK. Beating top tiers will. I find it strange that Oda would give the captain of the crew the most useless Haki specialty against top tiers. So far Luffy arnaments has been penetrated by Hody which is a big red flag defensively and his Observations seems to be off the chart. COA and COO has to be trained for Luffy to get stronger but in the case of Kings haki it doesn't have to be trained.

"However unlike the other two you can control it but you can't train yourself to use it. Thats becaues it is the spirit itself af its owner. You can only enhance it by developing yourself"[/I]-Silvers Rayleigh

What I take from the sentence what I take from that quote from Rayleigh is Luffy will get power ups without having to train for it and I think that's the a cool benefit. He said only way to enhance it is by developing yourself and I think that statement is a bit vague and gives Oda alot of room to mess around. There is no set in stone blueprint in developing yourself and it totally up to Oda when he thinks Luffy has developed to enhance it

These are the 4 thing I think Kings Haki uses will be(Expansion)

1)Manipulate all forms of matter and energy
2)Eradicate or dissapate Logia based abilities
3)Destroy physical objects and people
4)Paralyze stronger opponents with weaker wills(Farfetched)

Manipulate all forms of energy

[video=youtube;vIav75e3MMg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIav75e3MMg[/video]

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1)When Rayleigh removes the neck collar. If you look closely he releases Kings haki for a split second to shut off/dominate what ever causes the collar to explode. Then he removes it quickly with his hands and tosses it away. This is non debatable because everyone say the same aura used to animate Kings Haki.

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When Ace turn't off the fire-When ace Kings Haki is release at an early age. It dominated the fire for the period of time it was activated. Then when the Haki burst finished the fire can back on. So this shows me that Kings Haki gains dominance over energy or elements

Eradicate or dissapate all elements or logia based abilities

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1)Jozu ice-When Jozu got freezed he should have just use his arnament to break the ice like people said Doffy did but he didn't do it. In terms of physical strength I think Jozu destroys Doffy and plus the guy has a natural hardening mechanism by being a diamond man.

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2)Doffy ice-When Doffy got freezed he shattered it easily and in my opinion it wasn't arnaments cause jozu couldn't shatter it. Also in the anime it clearly showed Doffy's glasses when the ice was breaking. When Kings haki is being used the eyes are used to showcase it. I think DD shattered the ice because he gained dominance over it with his Kings haki

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3)Monets snow-Monet tries to put Luffy into hypothermia and snow covers his body The second his Kings Haki is activated the snow falls off and this is whiles Luffy is laying down and before he uses G2. Again I'm not saying it right or confirmed or anything I'm just merely giving ideaa for kings haki.

What effects Kings Haki(The heart)

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Whitebeard couldn't use Kings Haki at Marineford to save Ace because his heart was affected and he was coughing blood

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When Doffy broke the ice Buffalo said his heart hadn't frozen yet. I think the heart is what trigger Kings Haki you effect the heart in any way you disrupt Kings Haki.

Luffy biggest opponent are logia users

Blackbeard-Yami Yami
Akainu-Magu Magu

My opinion:The yami yami is inescapable so if I'm right and Kings haki can gain dominance over logia based abilities he has a fighting chance. Also Shanks has showed us his Kings haki is always actively on so Luffy should be able to keep his on for the whole match verus BB. I could picture a scenario where BB tries to pull Luffy in an he uses Kings Haki to blow away the darkness.

Destroy physical objects or people

So far we know Luffy can use haki selectively. When I say selectively I mean he can focus it on what he wants to knock out. My guess is if your Kings haki is strong enough you can focus it on a person or your fist. My point is you can aim your Kings haki at what you want too

Selective targeted kings haki usage example

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If you look at the last page on Chapter 716 page 17 we see the spectators reactions it looks like a shockwave tries to blow them away which arnaments haki doesn't do kings haki does it. Also the reason why they aren't knocked out is becuase the Kings Haki isn't directed at them they just are blown away and feels it a little.

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When Shanks and Whitebeard directs there Kings haki towards each other and there swords clash its result is more planetary than Luffy vs Chinjoa because the sky splits. Meaning one haki was vying for dominance on each side.

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Shanks is the first person shown to actively keep on his Kings haki. In doing so he damaged apart of WB shit. As shown when he walked on WB his presence alone is overwhelming to withstand that why I said he actively kept on his Kings haki. So it evident when Shanks haki leaks out it destroys objects.

Paralyze strong people with weaker wills

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This one is the most farfetched of the ones I posted because Zoro isn't a confirmed Kings Haki user. But I used the concept of Kings Haki to make the point. Kings Haki is basically "INTIMIDATION" so even if Zoro didn't used kings haki directly he used it to scare her. By scaring her she couldn't move her limbs nor could she go into her logia form because she was completely paralyzed.

Why I think Kings Haki isn't just fodder removal

Look at the reactions

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Whitebeard told his pirates to backup Luffy after Luffy used Kings haki
2)Kizaru said he didn't know Luffy had that tremendous power
3)Aokiji was in shock and Mihawk
4)Shanks has no DF one arm and is regarded as a yonko. Keep in mind all yonkos have haki his might be superior but what make him different is his Kings haki



 
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Kings Haki can be used as a shockwave, and can control sea kings.

The one with luffy and pinhead over there is armors Haki+kings Haki.

It cause a shockwave with sparks

That's why Diamanté noted that it was a clash of kings haki
 

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Kings Haki can be used as a shockwave, and can control sea kings.

The one with luffy and pinhead over there is armors Haki+kings Haki.

It cause a shockwave with sparks

That's why Diamanté noted that it was a clash of kings haki
I agree that why I don't think Shanks is a normal swordsman instead of slashes he uses willpower shockwaves why did you think I said selective kings haki targeted at people or objects damages
 

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I agree that why I don't think Shanks is a normal swordsman instead of slashes he uses willpower shockwaves why did you think I said selective kings haki targeted at people or objects damages
I also feel like shanks just used king Haki against Akainu.

Colby fainted afterwards, but I think a strong enough will can disrupt a logia's focus for intangibility.
 

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I also feel like shanks just used king Haki against Akainu.

Colby fainted afterwards, but I think a strong enough will can disrupt a logia's focus for intangibility.
I agree but he had to use Coa too or else his sword would have melted by touching the magma
 

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Well you make some valid points however I do have to say somethings that puts holes in some of these theories.

Firstly I have to say the Luffy and Monet thing wasn't actually canon that scene was just dragged on.

Secondly the whole paralyzing an opponent only works when you consider Zoro has Kings Haki which I don't think he has it not yet at least, I think the whole Zoro and Monet thing was just Zoro's unusual high level of killing intent that shocked Monet as she underestimated him thinking he would never attack her.

Also I doubt Jozu has kings Haki since he would have used it in whitebeards place instead of Luffy I do however think it was Haki that helped Jozu out of the ice or perhaps his DF and again I might be wrong but I don't think the Doflamingo ice cracking near his eyes is canon.

However there are some valid thoughts here as it's obvious by now that Kings haki has more to it.

Other than fodder removal we have seen it damage surroundings and as you say defeat elements however another purpose I think it has is being able to control the weather take for example when Whitebeard and Shanks split the sky and perhaps that's why Dragon is also able to control the weather as well.
 

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A fist full of magma can completely melt off a sword?

I though Shanks was just sporting off kings Haki alone lol
Off course magma can melt a sword without arnaments..lol and Shanks isn't sporting just kings haki he has all 3

Well you make some valid points however I do have to say somethings that puts holes in some of these theories.

Firstly I have to say the Luffy and Monet thing wasn't actually canon that scene was just dragged on.

Secondly the whole paralyzing an opponent only works when you consider Zoro has Kings Haki which I don't think he has it not yet at least, I think the whole Zoro and Monet thing was just Zoro's unusual high level of killing intent that shocked Monet as she underestimated him thinking he would never attack her.

Also I doubt Jozu has kings Haki since he would have used it in whitebeards place instead of Luffy I do however think it was Haki that helped Jozu out of the ice or perhaps his DF and again I might be wrong but I don't think the Doflamingo ice cracking near his eyes is canon.

However there are some valid thoughts here as it's obvious by now that Kings haki has more to it.

Other than fodder removal we have seen it damage surroundings and as you say defeat elements however another purpose I think it has is being able to control the weather take for example when Whitebeard and Shanks split the sky and perhaps that's why Dragon is also able to control the weather as well.
I never said Jozu has Kings haki I said because he didn't have it it took him longer to break out the ice and the Zoro point is farfetched but it follows the same concept as king haki his killing intent scared her and thats why I said Kings haki
 

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When Garp visited Roger in ID, the candles went out when Roger raised his voice, and went back on when he calmed down.

I too believe there is more then we saw till now. I think it will be something like Reiatsu from Bleach, an aura like a blanket that smothers weak willed people, can crush physical objects, bend some laws of physics and make it harder for the normal/stronger willed people to fight you (like fighting in water or with more gravity/resistance)
 

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When Garp visited Roger in ID, the candles went out when Roger raised his voice, and went back on when he calmed down.

I too believe there is more then we saw till now. I think it will be something like Reiatsu from Bleach, an aura like a blanket that smothers weak willed people, can crush physical objects, bend some laws of physics and make it harder for the normal/stronger willed people to fight you (like fighting in water or with more gravity/resistance)
Good point I will add it to the thread I didn't realize until you mention it with Garp and Roger

[video=youtube;liKNdZvWWdg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liKNdZvWWdg[/video]

Finally someone actually understands it. Nice theory.
Thanks you just have to add 2 and 2 together Mihawk use arnament and Observation and he is known as the WGS. Calling Shanks a swordsman would be like calling Law or Fugi a swordsman
 
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Manipulate all forms of matter and energy? Well, just throw in erasing everything with that a thought why don't you. That would be way to overpowered.
 

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I thought Jozu Died from Aokiji's attack. Also Dragon controls air meaning he ate a devil fruit that allows him to control air and because of that air is a primary requirement for clouds to form so he can the temperature of air and create friction within the air particles and thus create lighting
 

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I thought Jozu Died from Aokiji's attack. Also Dragon controls air meaning he ate a devil fruit that allows him to control air and because of that air is a primary requirement for clouds to form so he can the temperature of air and create friction within the air particles and thus create lighting
No he just lost his arm. But Hori, wouldn't it be more epic if he caused that storm from just his willpower? I mean that sounds a lot more intimidating than him causing it cause of his "DF ability".

OT: Hey don't you mean Jozu should of broke the ice by using Kings haki not armament? This theory is awesome.
 

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I thought Jozu Died from Aokiji's attack. Also Dragon controls air meaning he ate a devil fruit that allows him to control air and because of that air is a primary requirement for clouds to form so he can the temperature of air and create friction within the air particles and thus create lighting
We have seen Kings haki effect nature tho so you can't rule it out.

My definition of Kings Haki-The Kings will to dominate everything including making the atmosphere kneel before his magnificence. Ships crack before Kings clouds split before kings...the weather is affected because of the Kings presence. The Kings presence is no overbearing to the atmosphere he can make nature bend to his will.........:p
 
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