Regarding the 4th's encounter with the 4th

[Young Thug]

Schoolboy q wit a pound of tha purp

 

[namikaze nagato]

Come on because of how op he was even with bee beside ay some of the shinobi's still said they should flee because of the fact that he is powerful

 

[Chibiusa]

I'm well aware, but Lighting armor is still lighting armor. Chidori > Rasengan and it was proven at the final valley.

A debate on this would require it's own thread

 

[Oblivionx]

kunai is enough if minato is using it...! and wasn't minato going to kill him with a kunai if not for bee's interference...! People underestimate minato's taijutsu and power...!

 

[AlastorNazura17]

Minato solos neg diff, just like the first time they met and Bee interfered to save him.

 

[Peace Maker]

Minato's rassengan is bigger and probably stronger than the other rassengan user.

 

[SpiderRider89]

That's where i disagree with you, Rasengan > Chidori unless plot is involved. AT the final valley, that was just plot to let sasuke escape and proceed the story and to shippuden. it wasn't really chidori versus rasengan but more a hatred versus love.

I could agree with this but Sasuke still > Naruto in the only real clash they have ever had. When Sasuke and Naruto clashed after the Danzo fight, Sasuke was pretty much done for already.

You really want to debate on this? Check my thread on this rasengan shit stomped chidori in votes. Kakashi , sasuke , jiraya , minato said rasengan > chidori.

It's not up to Narutobase it's up to Kishi, and the rasengan lost. I don't doubt that Minato would find a way to win, but he's going to have to use a different move. Even if the Chidori and Rasengan are = then it's still not as powerful as the raikage's lighting armor, as Sasuke's chidori did nothing to him. Sasuke's chidori > Rasengan. Rasengan < wind imbued rasengan. FRS < Lighting armor.

 

[Xāvî1]

Rasengan variants says hello. Oh yea so does sealing jutsu.

 

[TrollingSage]

I could agree with this but Sasuke still > Naruto in the only real clash they have ever had. When Sasuke and Naruto clashed after the Danzo fight, Sasuke was pretty much done for already.



It's not up to Narutobase it's up to Kishi, and the rasengan lost. I don't doubt that Minato would find a way to win, but he's going to have to use a different move. Even if the Chidori and Rasengan are = then it's still not as powerful as the raikage's lighting armor, as Sasuke's chidori did nothing to him. Sasuke's chidori > Rasengan. Rasengan < wind imbued rasengan. FRS < Lighting armor.

Rasengan didnt lose. Naruto did, and the reason he lost was because Sasuke had an extra pair of arms to hit Naruto with when their jutsus collided. That battle did prove in any way that chidori> rasengan.

 

[sharingansennin]

Rasengan owns him neg diff. Naruto solo'd 3d Raikage with simple rasengan using his brain, 4th Raikage's armor is weaker than 3d's, Minato obviously is smarter than Naruto.

/thread

Ay is obviously smarter than the 3rd Raikage and he doesn't use those finger thing if im not mistaken which is why the 3rd lost

 

[Pwner10144]

Rasengan says hello. Oh yea so does sealing jutsu.

This cracked me up, yeah pretty much this.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Rasengan cant get through raiton armor. Even thou minato's its bigger then normal one its just not good enough for strong defenses + Ay has durable body.
Chidori usually pierces through the body while here its barely hurt Ay, rasengan could never even breach any good defenses.

Only way is death god seal, which is a draw.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

So I know that Raikage considered Minato to be unsurpassable and that he felt weaker than him, but I fail to see how he's weaker.

I mean, he's slower, yeah, but Minato has no way to get passed his defense. All Minato has is a kunai, and that isn't doing anything. It's just that I don't see how Minato can beat him and figure that it would be a stalemate, or until one loses their chakra.

I know it's probably been brought up before, but I'm just curious.

Rasengan says hi.
Anyways they clashed many times and minato never got hurt.
Not once.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I could agree with this but Sasuke still > Naruto in the only real clash they have ever had. When Sasuke and Naruto clashed after the Danzo fight, Sasuke was pretty much done for already.



It's not up to Narutobase it's up to Kishi, and the rasengan lost. I don't doubt that Minato would find a way to win, but he's going to have to use a different move. Even if the Chidori and Rasengan are = then it's still not as powerful as the raikage's lighting armor, as Sasuke's chidori did nothing to him. Sasuke's chidori > Rasengan. Rasengan < wind imbued rasengan. FRS < Lighting armor.

Sasukes chidori pierced through and drew blood from ay.
Sasukes chidori=< naruto's base rasengan
Minato's rasengan is oddama sized.
He's getting hurt. At the very least he'll be taking blunt force trauma.

 

[AGoodBoy]

you don't know if minato's kunai could do anything. Bee thought it was best to save raikage's ass from a mere kunai.

 

[Ababeel]

In the manga unlike what people use here, it's not about what the character has shown. They know their jutsus, and they act and use what the need to use. Just because we haven't seen all of his jutsus yet, that does not mean that he does not have any.

the very current example is Hiruzen. He showed that he has all 5 elements in the last chapter, we did not know that before.

Now, Minato still has his long-named jutsu that we don't know about, he eve said he could defeat obito with it while being the Juubi's host, but we don't know its power yet, and so on and so forth.

Minato must have had strong jutsus, otherwise he wouldn't have been able to deal with both A & B at the same time.

 

[LeSauce]

There isn't anything special about his kunai. Nothing has been shown that would increase it's danger.

Anyway, I already gave in to Raikage losing via Rasengan spam. His armor should eventually wear out.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

There isn't anything special about his kunai. Nothing has been shown that would increase it's danger.

Anyway, I already gave in to Raikage losing via Rasengan spam. His armor should eventually wear out.

Even though I don't believe in the no limits fallacy. Fact that he was able to penetrate that deep into the hachibi's tail without a point of leverage is a testament to his strength. Maybe it would get in maybe it wouldn't. But chances are its the former and not the latter. After all bee DID have to save him .