The New EYE, the eye which draws in all power to itself!

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(THIS THEORY IS POSSIBLY WRONG I REALIZE, IN CLOSER INSPECTION: THE NEW EYE NURTURED BY MADARA IS MOST LIKELY A REFERENCE TO SASUKE JOINING HIS SIDE, BUT THE INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THIS OPENING POST IS STILL GOOD INFO AND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED!) Basically what lets me know that there is a new eye beyond the rinnegan is what Madara says at the bottom of this panel:


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And I think the new EYE beyond the Rinnegan must be

The Elder son's eyes


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The difference between the Elder's eyes and the Rinnegan is apparent but overlooked



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Although you may easily be led to believe that Kishi's drawing of the Elder son's eyes was actually just a Rinnegan drawn in some old-mythy-look, I challenge to say maybe not.


Now, my logic behind it is that instead of just only circles connecting each other; the Elder son's eyes actually CIRCULATE INWARD and do not connect; as if to pronounce that the GENJUTSU is being cast by the holder of the eye!



One more look at it!

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Thus it is as if the eye draws in all power to itself and casts a genjutsu on everything else!




The new EYE is the step above the Rinnegan and must be obtained by fulfilling the will of the JUUBI probably by killing or absorbing the power from an Uchiha (Hyuuga count)-Senju (Uzumaki count) and only obtained by an Uchiha (since they are the cursed clan with that SPECIAL CHAKRA aka the Juubi-demon chakra). The way this power would work is that the cursed chakra of the Uchiha- as explained by the 2nd Hokage actually originates from the Juubi and so it leads the Uchiha to act ON BEHALF OF THE JUUBI by killing and conquering to take back its own power.




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This would explain why one of the Six paths powers- the 'Preta Path' gained thru the RINNEGAN (only) grants the power to absorb somebody's chakra and why Madara uses it so much, to reiterate the point that the Uchiha fulfill the Juubi's will: taking back what was stolen from it/them.





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The reason why the Rinnegan does not become the Juubi's eye is because humans even though cursed by the god tree and its hatred- they are separate beings: also the sage may not have had stronger EYES than his son because he was not influenced by the Juubi, in fact he manipulated it, but the Uchiha ancestor ended up becoming much more influenced by the curse of hatred; it must be that the god tree was the originator of the curse of hatred! More powerful sharingan = more Juubi-demon chakra!
 
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Nice theory. It's better than the cliche' "Sasuke will get Rinnegan" bs. Even I think, the Elder Son's Eyes' are a new powerup for Madara/Sasuke?
 

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Nice theory. It's better than the cliche' "Sasuke will get Rinnegan" bs. Even I think, the Elder Son's Eyes' are a new powerup for Madara/Sasuke?

Thanks Minato! Yea I'm definitely not saying Sasuke will get it, I'm pretty much implying Madara will and him only. I think the whole Sharingan to MS to EMS falls in the direction of the curse of hatred, (even when Itachi unlocked MS, it was due to something negative) so it is possible there is a skill obtained by Uchiha that leans more in the direction of the will of fire!
 

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So how did the elder son lost to the younger son, if his eye is that strong?
 

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No no just no. That is not gonna happen. Then that would mean elder son > younger son low to neg diff. Maybe even sage so no.
 

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No, this theory is garbage.
 

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So how did the elder son lost to the younger son, if his eye is that strong?

Where does it say that he lost to his brother? They fought but he didn't kill his brother and wasn't killed either, so TIE. You could say he lost because he was unable to kill him but still. What I said was that his EYES were stronger than the SAGE'S, think about it, the SO6P must have had little combat experience he just sealed the Juubi or whatever and eating one fruit did not give Kaguya or the sage ALL of the Juubi's powers. The curse of hatred builds upon the God tree/Juubi's powers and not the Sage's powers!
 
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In my opinion, I thought the Elder Son's eyes would be simply a different variation of the Rinnegan, maybe even a step below I suppose. Since the So6P created the Elder Son, I doubt he would have created an eye that surpassed his own, at least in power.

The way I see it, if he were able to unlock the next level of his eyes, it would be the Elder Son's eyes.

Rinnegan = EMS + Uchiha DNA + Senju DNA + Near Death Experience. We know that Sasuke does not have Senju DNA so it just isn't possible for him unless there is a twist and there is an alternative way to unlocking it.

This is my idea of how to unlock Elder Son's eyes.

Elder Son's eyes = EMS + Uchiha DNA + Near Death Experience. Sasuke is a full blooded Uchiha which stems directly from the Elder Son. The Elder Son had no mixing of blood types in order to possess his eyes. So naturally I would think Sasuke would be able to attain the new set of eyes since he hasn't mixed his DNA.

Madara even states that he wants to nurture a new eye, though not sure if he could use them. This is because (in my opinion) he is no longer a pure Uchiha, he is also partial Senju thanks to Hashirama's DNA.

It makes perfect sense thanks to the last chapter.
 
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No no just no. That is not gonna happen. Then that would mean elder son > younger son low to neg diff. Maybe even sage so no.

You people are ridiculous minded. Just because the elder son had very strong eyes; compared to the extreme life force and will of the younger son; those eyes barely make the quota. Hashirama was always stronger than Madara until Madara stole and obtained alot of extra power!
 

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He meant that he was nurturing Sasuke, he said he didn't think it would stick with him because of Sasuke declining his offer to join his since they are both Uchiha, the next panel shows Sasuke with his "eye"

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Where does it say that he lost to his brother? They fought but he didn't kill his brother and wasn't killed either, so TIE. You could say he lost because he was unable to kill him but still. What I said was that his EYES were stronger than the SAGE'S, think about it, the SO6P must have had little combat experience he just sealed the Juubi or whatever and eating one fruit did not give Kaguya or the sage ALL of the Juubi's powers. The curse of hatred builds upon the God tree/Juubi's powers and not the Sage's powers!
Niiga sage on death bead after getting rid of juubi from him made the moon. He solos those shit feat less son's. Oh elder son eyes > sages you high? It was stated the son inherited the sages eyes. Albeit the two inherited weaker versions of the sages power as the fruit power is more diluted and he was jin of the shinju. Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki > his son's.
 

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In my opinion, I thought the Elder Son's eyes would be simply a different variation of the Rinnegan, maybe even a step below I suppose. Since the So6P created the Elder Son, I doubt he would have created an eye that surpassed his own, at least in power.

The way I see it, if he were able to unlock the next level of his eyes, it would be the Elder Son's eyes.

Rinnegan = EMS + Uchiha DNA + Senju DNA + Near Death Experience. We know that Sasuke does not have Senju DNA so it just isn't possible for him unless there is a twist and there is an alternative way to unlocking it.

This is my idea of how to unlock Elder Son's eyes.

Elder Son's eyes = EMS + Uchiha DNA + Near Death Experience. Sasuke is a full blooded Uchiha which stems directly from the Elder Son. The Elder Son had no mixing of blood types in order to possess his eyes. So naturally I would think Sasuke would be able to attain the new set of eyes since he hasn't mixed his DNA.

Madara even states that he wants to nurture a new eye, though not sure if he could use them because he is no longer a pure Uchiha...he is also partial Senju thanks to Hashirama's DNA.

It makes perfect sense thanks to the last chapter.

I think people are taking everything too literal here. It was obviously a myth that the SO6P created EVERYTHING, all he did was make the moon and separate the Juubi into nine parts is how I see it. But I think the legacy of the Ninja was accredited to him and thus the shinobi recognize him as a God who created everything, when in reality war was occuring even before his mother ate from the tree to obtain divine power! According to Madara- who read the stone tablets with the Rinnegan; the Sage gained inherited his power from his mother who inherited that power from a tree. In essence; he was never a god who could create anything without the power of the juubi! The point of gaining Senju dna, is not to just get a blood transfusion; it is MURDER- drinking the blood of your most despised enemy- the SENJU! That is how Rinnegan is won, but before that you must experience trauma (sharingan) and extreme loss (mangekyou), then as you become blind you must find the light to your darkness (STEALING YOUR BROTHER'S EYES)!

The New eyes definitely exist as Madara stated; who knows all there is about the Uchiha, Senju, and the SO6P.
 
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Madara just keeps getting more op.
 

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This is a nice theory, but I like how this hype of Elder Son's Eyes is a failure. Rinnegan is the SO6P's eyes, they're meant to be -the most powerful eyes in the universe-. Considering that Sharingan is degraded form of Rinnegan, and that Sharingan comes from this Elder Son's bloodline, his eyes are merely a weaker form of Rinnegan which already started to degrade in his generation.
 
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Niiga sage on death bead after getting rid of juubi from him made the moon. He solos those shit feat less son's. Oh elder son eyes > sages you high? It was stated the son inherited the sages eyes. Albeit the two inherited weaker versions of the sages power as the fruit power is more diluted and he was jin of the shinju. Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki > his son's.

Dude your a fool, since when did inherited power mean that a parent was always stronger than their sons? Do you really expect me to believe that Fugaku Uchiha had more power and potential than Itachi and Sasuke? Lol, try harder! Just because my idea is outside of the dummy box and yours is average thinking doesn't mean shit!

This is a nice theory, but I like how this hype of Elder Son's Eyes is a failure. Rinnegan is the SO6P's eyes, they're meant to be -the most powerful eyes in the universe-. Considering that Sharingan is degraded form of Rinnegan, and that Sharingan comes from this Elder Son's bloodline, his eyes are merely a weaker form of Rinnegan which already started to degrade in his generation.

You and Huzaifa continue to believe that the Sage was the originator of the Rinnegan; but I say this is incorrect; it was ALWAYS the JUUBI! THE JUUBI WAS THE ORIGINATOR OF THE SAGE'S CHAKRA TO BEGIN WITH- HIS EYES COME FROM THE JUUBI CHAKRA INSIDE THE FRUIT KAGUYA ATE! And The curse I say comes from the revenge of the Juubi rather than the Sage, thus the chakra (of the Juubi) sprouts inside the brain of the Uchiha and the eyes get stronger when hatred reaches its maturity. Get it?
 
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You and Huzaifa continue to believe that the Sage was the originator of the Rinnegan; but I say this is incorrect; it was ALWAYS the JUUBI! THE JUUBI WAS THE ORIGINATOR OF THE SAGE'S CHAKRA! And The curse I say comes from the revenge of the Juubi rather than the Sage, thus the eyes get stronger when hatred reaches its maturity. Get it?

Manga facts state he used the rinnegan power to seal juubi. Now /thread or not?
 

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You and Huzaifa continue to believe that the Sage was the originator of the Rinnegan; but I say this is incorrect; it was ALWAYS the JUUBI! THE JUUBI WAS THE ORIGINATOR OF THE SAGE'S CHAKRA TO BEGIN WITH- HIS EYES COME FROM THE JUUBI CHAKRA INSIDE THE FRUIT KAGUYA ATE! And The curse I say comes from the revenge of the Juubi rather than the Sage, thus the chakra (of the Juubi) sprouts inside the brain of the Uchiha and the eyes get stronger when hatred reaches its maturity. Get it?

Well, show me manga scans or it never happened. The manga clearly says that Rinnegan was originally Sages' eyes, unless you prove it wrong it's just a nice fanfiction mate.
 

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Manga facts state he used the rinnegan power to seal juubi. Now /thread or not?

Try harder, maybe as your grandma can teach you how to /thread better, 0/10 attempt. Rinnegan seals Juubi- okay, the Sage must have been more than the product of the Juubi's power, it wasn't all Rinnegan though, go take the time and go back to everything you mentioned I dare you, but you won't!
 

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Try harder, maybe as your grandma can teach you how to /thread better, 0/10 attempt. Rinnegan seals Juubi- okay, the Sage must have been more than the product of the Juubi's power, it wasn't all Rinnegan though, go take the time and go back to everything you mentioned I dare you, but you won't!

Wow double posting 3-4 times. Obito used rinnegan to become jin not a sealing technique example one. Two I am to lazy to give a idiot like you a scan for the obvious.
 
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