Establishing Naruto's Legacy, Part 2

NaruSasuRival

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Let me add some fact here. Usually, I would explain power in Naruto without doing image interpretation, but most people just don't like the idea. Here is the basic rule in Naruto.

Every ninja has a body with some properties. These power can be activated with chakra. For example, Senju's have powerful cells that get activated by their chakra or sage chakra. Similarly, Uchiha have eyes that can be activated by special chakra. We even saw that Kyuubi chakra could make Kamui of Kakashi as powerful as Obito's Kamui.

Now, can we say that Kakahi's Kamui was able to phase in and out because of Kyuubi? Well, the answer is yes and no. Yes because without Kyuubi's chakra, Kakashi would be unable to phase. No because the power is in the Sharingan of Kakashi while Kyuubi chakra is just a fuel to bring it out. Note that without Kyuubi's chakra, Kakashi would never has phased in and out, and everyone would think that his MS cannot do that.

How this is related to Naruto?

For example, everyone think that Naruto's Rikudo look in KM/BM/BSM is due to Kyuubi power. However, this is not completely true. It is the same situation as Kakashi's Kamui phasing in and out the cube world. In oder to see that, let analyze the following pages of the manga.

A- Some Hypotheses
1. The first time Naruto took Kyuubi's chakra
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Here we could say that the chakra magnified things that were already part of Naruto. There is the seal on his belly that appears. However, there are other things that are new on Naruto: (1) the sign all around the seal to his shoulder, and (2) more importantly, the magatama around his neck just like Rikudo. My guess is that all these are hidden in Naruto's body, but get magnified by Kyuubi's chakra, which enhance Naruto's life force. Here is a clue.


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Here, Kyuubi said that the technique Naruto used is of the SO6P. Note also how the technique cancel Kyuubi's bijudama. This tell us it is a power that is not of Kyuubi. This fact is usually ignore by people who don't want to acknowledge Naruto's genetics.

2. The presence of Kyuubi or is chakra is not responsible of Naruto's Rikudo's look

This is very important point, and you will understand later why I am using it. Check the following image:

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Here, Naruto look ordinary, and this happened just after he took Kyuubi's chakra. Note that Kyuubi is also inside him. This prove that neither having Kyuubi's pure chakra, nor the presence of Kyuubi give the rikudo look. Rather, it is only when Naruto load/uses/activates the chakra that he appearance changes as we can see below:

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By using the chakra, Naruto's body is activated, and all his hidden traits are activated has well. The seal, the shoulder, the magatama, etc., are all hidden traits of Naruto's body that requires a certain amount of chakra to activate.

3. Some people says that sensing emotions is Kyuubi's power, ...

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But I say NO. If Kyuubi was the one that sense emotions, then tells Naruto, then we would say that sensing emotions is Kyuubi's power. In that case, Kyuubi would have warned Naruto of danger even before Naruto took his chakra in many situation such as Naruto vs Sasuke in the VOTE. Kyuubi would told Naruto that Sasuke was aiming at killing him with a chidori in his heart when Naruto was testing Sasuke's intent.

This did not happen because Kyuubi cannot sense any emotions. Some people say it is Kyuubi's power because Mito is said to have the same, but did Mito go in KM or BM? While Mito was Kyuubi Jinchuriki, she was also a gifted Uzumaki, a feat that is common to her and Naruto. So it could be that this emotion sensing is actually an Uzumaki feat.

Besides, how Naruto sensing emotions related to Kyuubi's mind, ears, or whatever. Clearly, Naruto in KM/BM/BSM is somehow enlightened to the point that he can connect to others. This could be a hidden power that appears among some special Uzumaki, and that requires a lot of chakra being focused.

The key here is to notice that KM/BM/BSM chakra has no mind, no ear, no eyes, no nothing. Thus, Naruto is the one sensing.

B- Counter Examples

1. Kyuubi chakra does not create any traits on normal human body

First, Kakashi received the same chakra, his eyes power got boosted. However, since Obito has the same power, we know that Kakashi got only a new power activated, not given by Kyuubi. Something to note is that Kakashi did not resemble Rikudo Sennin!

Here, Hinata received the same chakra, but her look did not change
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Anyone else got the chaka, but did neither resemble Rikudo, nor sense emotions
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Sasuke Uchiha received the same chakra, and did not change appearance
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2. Those who get Rikudo-like traits

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First, we know Naruto and Minato got their appearance change, though Minato has not been shown to sense emotions. This is also consistent with my analysis. We could say that the common traits are due to father-son and sealing techs relationship. Traits such as sensing emotions, Naruto's facial traits are purely specific to Naruto and his Uzumaki powers.

Second, there is Obito who get the magatama on his neck after obtaining Juubi's chakra. It turned out Obito also has both Senju and Uchiha (Rikudo synthesized) DNA. It could then be argued that the magatama at least is clearly a connection to Rikudo, not Kyuubi-specific.


C- Conclusion

Here, I have enough material to show that the Rikudo appearance on Naruto is not due to Kyuubi. Rather, it is an activation of hidden factor by a potent chakra. The counter-example showed that ordinary people cannot get the same transformation even with the same Kyuubi chakra. Similarly, Sensing emotions is not due to Kyuubi because Minato could not sense emotion.

Moreover, I showed using Sasuke and Senju Bro that even the two main clans cannot have the feats separately. Rather, blending their DNA in one as in Obito can grant partially this feats.

Clearly, I have no doubt that Naruto has hidden power. I also have no doubt that Minato is not a random shin obi has many people like to think. The origin of Naruto become even so similar to that of the original Rikudo that:

1. His mother add special chakra and Kyuubi (a part of Shinju) inside her when Naruto was born. The facial trait on Naruto are evidence that he was born with special power. This is no different from Rikudo being born from a mother with Shinju power.
2. The original Rikudo's father is unknown as well as Minato's origin are unknown.

Could it be that Minato is a descendent of Rikudo's father's clan while Kushina is from Rikudo's mother clan. This could fits the plot given that Kyuubi fit perfectly the role of Shinju fruit. Lastly,

Could it be that by focusing a large amount of his own chakra, or SM chakra, Naruto could achieve all the feats he was able to achieve in KM/BM/BSM? This would be consistent with Kakashi's kamui as we know that if Kakashi had enough chakra, he could have achieve the same feats as Obito.
 
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....Half of this makes no sense at all.
 

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or maybe you're just too far into it. naruto's sensing abilities may be an innate ability of his own, i don't mind giving you that. however i believe his appearance is strictly due to his seal which in turn is one of the sages. hence minato having it because he used the same seal on himself.

edit: ordinary people don't get the same appearance because they don't have the seal, he's simply dispersing kyuubi chakra to them.
 

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i like your theory ...GOod job keep it up....Haters gonna hate...the reality is that you are absolutely right
 

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sorry, but what about Minato? He looks almost like Naruto in KCM.
 

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or maybe you're just too far into it. naruto's sensing abilities may be an innate ability of his own, i don't mind giving you that. however i believe his appearance is strictly due to his seal which in turn is one of the sages. hence minato having it because he used the same seal on himself.

edit: ordinary people don't get the same appearance because they don't have the seal, he's simply dispersing kyuubi chakra to them.

Well, the seal maybe a reason, but can it explain the necklace that appears on Naruto? Why is that necklace the same as Obito's in Juubi mode? Why Killer Bee who is a perfect Jinchuriki and also has a seal is unable to manifest such appearance? Oh, wait! You are going to say the seal are not the same, or the Bijus are not the same. But I even think Killer Bee also received Kyuubi chakra, unless I am dreaming.

sorry, but what about Minato? He looks almost like Naruto in KCM.

As you can see, you said Minato is almost like Naruto. First, if Naruto has some kind of innate powers, he got them either from Minato, or from Kushina. There is no doubt he got the strong life force from Kushina. We should also not ignore that Minato himself has strong chakra pool as we witness this in his fight against Tobi and Kyuubi.

If it turn out that Minato is from some Rikudo related clan, then, this can justify why he and Naruto are almost alike in the KM mode. Thus, using Minato as a counter example is a bad reasoning because Naruto is his son.
 

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My G, I think that you are right on. It has always bothered me that we don't know any further info on Minato's clan being he is a important shinobi in the manga and Naruto's father. Also, Naruto is the main character, but we know nothing really exact about the Uzamaki origins as well. Plus, I always thought the chakra chains were because of the rinnegan, but Kushina used them before we actually saw the rinnegan in action. I think Kishi, still has a lot to explain, but will happen in due time or hell maybe after the manga.
 

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Your probably right on. The necklace/other symbols appears on Obito for no apparent reason and he used no sealing jutsu. He used his own Sharingan to contain the juubi within his body not in a separate seal. Hence because he used no seal all symbols that appeared upon him were likely a result of his own senju/uchiha lineage.

It does make me question where exactly Minato came from. My bet is it has something to do with the Second Hokage, the Hiraishin connection is just way to much to be a coincidence. My bet would be that he might be a descendent as the Hiraishin must be a senju clan technique. Hence there would be no way that Minato could have gotten his hands on the second's notes if not by being related to him somehow.

I'd like someone to state a method that doesn't sound contrived by which Minato could have gotten his hands on the seconds notes on the technique. Its a point that has been very neatly side stepped by kishi in the manga.
 

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Someone stated in one of the comments above about haters will hate. They are correct. To me your theory part 1 and 2 are sound. Honestly it is well researched and perfectly explained for even the slowest of people on here.

If people can not at least see the proof you are showing and at least give you some small praise for putting an arguments against their opposite beliefs then they are ignorant.

Congratulations my friend. This theory is 10/10 for me.
 
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