Do you believe in God

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I would like to believe that a God exists. That would be awesome.

 

[Edo Odin]

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?​

The quote above describes my opinion on the topic. If there really is a good, I don't feel the need to pray to him.

Edit: To add - I'm not saying he does or doesn't exist. Personally I don't believe he exists, but when it all comes down to nothing, neither can be proved, so arguing is pointless. People may choose to believe what they wish.The only thing that I'm saying is that if he does exist, I don't feel the need to bow down to him.
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[Asami..]

Guess i do. I'm not very religious though.

 

[P3ĮÑ]

Please, please just stop using the evolution card, it's down right ridiculous and impossible.

What? The quran was written 1400 years ago, in the middle of the arabian peninsula where ignorance of science was strong (they believed mountians held up the sky)

scientific facts in the quran include:

Speed of light
Black holes
Gamma Ray bursts
Halocline Phenoman
Big Bang
Comic Crunch
Mountians acting as pegs to the earth
The ozone layer
waves underneath surface waves
two bodies of ocean water not mixing
the orbit's of the earth and moon
earth being round
moon having reflected light
detailed descriptions of human development in the womb

and much more

Yeah, there are much more, In the Qur'an, which was revealed fourteen centuries ago at a time when the science of astronomy was still primitive, the expansion of the universe was described in the following terms: it also doesn't rule out the expansion of the universe.

And it is We Who have constructed the heaven with might, and verily, it is We Who are steadily expanding it. (Qur'an, 51:47)

The word "heaven," as stated in the verse above, is used in various places in the Qur'an. It is referring to space and the wider universe. Here again, the word is used with this meaning, stating that the universe "expands." The Arabic word "moosiaaoona" in the term "inna lamoosiaaoona," translated into English as "it is We Who are steadily expanding it", comes from the verb "evsea," meaning "to expand." The prefix "la" emphasises the following name or title and adds a sense of "to a great extent." This expression therefore means "We expand the sky or the universe to a great extent."

OT: I do believe in god.

 

[Kuroh]

Yes I do .

 

[namikaze12]

I use to 100% but I honestly dont know anymore, but what I do believe is that there's more to life then just being born living a good or bad life and then just dying, there could be some sort of God figure somewhere, who knows...

 

[Wabbit]

No...
World would have been a better place if concept of God didnt exist.Many massacered,brain washed and blowed shit up because of the those who believe in God

 

[narutokage99]

Random does not design, does not fit, does not hold.Random only make porridge.Univers and life can't be set randomly.
Building blocks don't build themselves.If something looks designed, and if it's complex, it doesn't take a horde of scientists to prove to me (with peer reviewed papers) that it didn't make itself that way with no outside direction and intelligence.

More people have died in the twentieth century’s secular wars than in the preceding fifty centuries of fighting combined…. No religious war in history, not all the religious wars of history added together, did as much damage as this century’s wars of nationalism and ideology.

 

[KingHashirama]

Yeah, there are much more, In the Qur'an, which was revealed fourteen centuries ago at a time when the science of astronomy was still primitive, the expansion of the universe was described in the following terms: it also doesn't rule out the expansion of the universe.

And it is We Who have constructed the heaven with might, and verily, it is We Who are steadily expanding it. (Qur'an, 51:47)

The word "heaven," as stated in the verse above, is used in various places in the Qur'an. It is referring to space and the wider universe. Here again, the word is used with this meaning, stating that the universe "expands." The Arabic word "moosiaaoona" in the term "inna lamoosiaaoona," translated into English as "it is We Who are steadily expanding it", comes from the verb "evsea," meaning "to expand." The prefix "la" emphasises the following name or title and adds a sense of "to a great extent." This expression therefore means "We expand the sky or the universe to a great extent."

OT: I do believe in god.

You are leaving out the fact where the Q'uran mentions of only 7 skies.

Just like according to the Talmuds of Judaism the universe is made of 7 skies.

Both religions restrict how big the universe is.

They get contradicted by the Sikh religion:

“There are planets, solar systems and galaxies. If one speaks of them, there is no limit, no end. There are worlds upon worlds of His Creation. As He commands, so they exist. He watches over all, and contemplating the creation, He rejoices. Nanak says, to describe this is as hard as steel!”


"The limits of the created universe cannot be perceived. Its limits here and beyond cannot be perceived. Many struggle to know His limits, but His limits cannot be found. No one can know these limits. The more you say about them, the more there still remains to be said."


"What was that time, and what was that moment? What was that day, and what was that date?
What was that season, and what was that month, when the Universe was created?
The Pandits, the religious scholars, cannot find that time, even if it is written in the Puraanas.
That time is not known to the Qazis, who study the Koran.
The day and the date are not known to the Yogis, nor is the month or the season.
The Creator who created this creation-only He Himself knows."

Random does not design, does not fit, does not hold.Random only make porridge.Univers and life can't be set randomly.
Building blocks don't build themselves.If something looks designed, and if it's complex, it doesn't take a horde of scientists to prove to me (with peer reviewed papers) that it didn't make itself that way with no outside direction and intelligence.

More people have died in the twentieth century’s secular wars than in the preceding fifty centuries of fighting combined…. No religious war in history, not all the religious wars of history added together, did as much damage as this century’s wars of nationalism and ideology.

WE also, didn't have as many people as we do right now.

But the fact that people labeled those wars as "religious" wars shows kind of ignorance. Both the muslims and christians were hypocrites when it came to the crusades.

When it comes to damage, "religious" wars or hypocrisy wars personally did more damage to the world.

 

[Hikari Uchiha Senju]

There's an old saying in my country: " Take care for yourself, and God will too. "
Basically, it means you're your own God. So, yeah, I believe in myself.

 

[KingHashirama]

The Seven heavens of Islam:

[Quran 41.12] So [Allah] decreed them as seven heavens (one above the other) in two days and revealed to each heaven its orders. And We [Allah] adorned the lowest heaven with lights, and protection. Such is the decree of the Exalted; the Knowledgeable.

[Quran 65.12] Allah is the one who created seven Heavens and from Earth like them (of corresponding type); [Allah’s] command descends among them so that you may know that Allah is capable of anything and that Allah knows everything.

Judaism:

The Seven Heavens in the Talmud.
(see Ps. lxviii. 5).
"There are seven heavens one above the other: (1) Velon [Latin, velum, "curtain"], which is rolled up and down to enable the sun to go in and out; according to Isa. xl. 22, 'He stretched out the heavens as a curtain';

(2) Raḳi'a, the place where the sun, moon, and stars are fixed (Gen. i. 17];

(3) Sheḥakim, in which are the millstones to grind [shaḥak] manna for the righteous (Ps. lxxviii. 23; comp. Midr. Teh. to Ps. xix. 7];

(4) Zebul, the upper Jerusalem, with its Temple, in which Michael offers the sacrifice at the altar [Isa. lxiii. 15; I Kings, viii. 13];

(5) Ma'on. in which dwell the classes of ministering angels who sing by night and are silent by day, for the honor of Israel who serve the Lord in daytime [Deut. xxvi. 15, Ps. xlii. 9];

(6) Makon, in which are the treasuries of snow and hail, the chambers of dew, rain, and mist behind doors of fire [1 Kings, vii. 30; Deut. xxviii. 12];

(7) 'Arabot, where justice and righteousness, the treasures of life and of blessing, the souls of the righteous and the dew of resurrection are to be found. There are the ofanim, the seraphim, and the ḥayyot of holiness, the ministering angels and the throne of glory; and over them is enthroned the great King"

 

[Srom777]

Yes, I believe in a God and that is Jesus Christ.

 

[Made in Heaven]

I think you're the blind one.


If you say so, then why are the verse interpreted man different ways and are accepted in every way? None of those verse say that, oh the earth took millions of eons to form. You simply say its a metaphor whats it supposed to mean but, in the 6 examples you provided i can show over 10 examples of the Quaran completely contradicting every single one of them, except maybe the mountain thing

Oh, please do

 

[Aim64C]

What does one define as "God?"

There was once a Wiccan who thought I was some kind of human incarnation of a god. While my hubris does not need to be stroked in such a manner - it certainly illustrates just how wide the concept of "god" is.

For me, personally - the only 'God' worth much worship is the creative force of universe and the life experience. Whether or not the Hebrew God was the personification of this force, or not, is a relatively moot point in the long run. The harder you look at the universe - the more you learn about how things work, the more ambiguous reality becomes.

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I have come to something of a bizarre 'settlement' with the universe. My world began when I was born - knowledge, mechanics, and the very history of that world have been decohering progressively as my existence assimilates with this one. Exactly who else shares this world with me - and to what degree they share it with me (that poses some brain-bending possibilities), but I do accept the experience and reality as real. Furthermore - I'm of the opinion that I have some degree of influence on its course (beyond simple choices of physical action and mental disposition). Though to what degree, I do not know.

This system exists for a purpose of some kind - it was 'created' or 'spawned' from some greater process and higher principle. Regardless - taking this life too seriously is foolish - as is disregarding it (a temporary affliction is still an affliction - but not permanent). What is important is exploring/enjoying the experience and the other beings within it. Perhaps when we die - all we have is ourselves - and this is process intended for interaction with other sentience.

Now - whether or not these processes meet a human concept of 'intelligence' is anyone's guess. I like to speak to 'God' as if it were a presence with a vested interest in my ramblings and open my mind up to answers from outside myself... but I can't claim that is any different than various forms of meditation.

I'm the guy no one knows what to do with at Church. I just don't conform to any standard yet still consider myself of the Christian faith (I do believe Jesus was a real individual who was especially gifted with knowledge, wisdom, and outright spunk - but he came to save the Jews from the oppression of rule by the Pharisee, not to undo original sin or whatever crazy stuff the Church (antichrist) came up with later to tax the road to salvation).

Like I said - they just don't know what the hell to do with me.

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?​

The quote above describes my opinion on the topic. If there really is a good, I don't feel the need to pray to him.

Edit: To add - I'm not saying he does or doesn't exist. Personally I don't believe he exists, but when it all comes down to nothing, neither can be proved, so arguing is pointless. People may choose to believe what they wish.The only thing that I'm saying is that if he does exist, I don't feel the need to bow down to him.
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That is a rather narrow viewpoint of the world.

Why have life if God addressed all of those concerns? Even if we lived in a sandbox world of painlessness and everlasting contentment - the sheer fact that people have independent wills would destroy the mechanics that make such a utopia possible.

Humans want domain over their own lives yet not the responsibility.

Humans have been trying to do the very thing you've described for ... well... all of human history. People have believed they were both willing and able to put a stop to evil - and crusaded all through their territory to put an end to it. "Just do as I say, and you'll all be better."

Thus you get warlords (though not all warlords are concerned with the well-being of their subjects - others care, but in doing so they cause more harm than good).

I'm not saying you should 'submit.' I really don't think God values submission. He wouldn't have created free will if that were the case. Call me crazy - but I think God values equal companionship. Why else would you create thinking beings?

Unless you just enjoy the comedy of watching them act like they know things and fail miserably while acting upon them. I'm sure we can be quite the source of entertainment. A humorous example of what happens when you jam sentience into a horribly limited form of existence.

 

[EnDash]

i feel like this needs a "maybe" option.

RIght believe what you want. I can't control your will, and clearly, you are of those Allah has described as being the dumb, deaf and blind, those who, even with a million signs in front of them, will refuse to believe.

i can give you a million signs of evolution and you will still refuse to believe. what does that make of you?

 

[Mai]

Yes I do

Agreed..^^

 

[Jako98146]

I follow Jashinism so i may live forever

But honestly I do believe in God

 

[Forest]

I believe in universal energetic connectivity

 

[Made in Heaven]

i feel like this needs a "maybe" option.



i can give you a million signs of evolution and you will still refuse to believe. what does that make of you?

Anything you give me is false, because evolution is a lie. I'm up for a debate though

 

[EnDash]

Anything you give me is false, because evolution is a lie. I'm up for a debate though

but everything you give me is false, because islam and god is a lie.

why are only the people not believing in allah are "dumb, deaf and blind", but the people not beliving in evolution are smart and knowledgeable? what is the diffrence between them? you can't know for absolute certainty that god exists and you can't know for absolute certainty that evolution is real. but you have no problem deciding that one is completly true and the other one is a lie.

i wanted a "maybe" option because i'm not sure, what baffles me is that you are so sure. how can you be 100% certain about it?