[VS] EMS Sasuke vs. MS Obito

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Location: Konoha Crater.
Mindset: In character.
Distance: 40m.
Intel: Manga.
Conditions: Sasuke still has Hashirama's Chakra so just for the sake of it, along with his Chakra, he now has Hashirama's Chakra as well, but no Senjutsu. In other words; In this match-up, Sasuke has more Chakra than Hashirama himself.

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No Shadow clones. No crow clones. Worse genjutsu. No izanami. But I bet you think assume has a better chance than itachi :coffee:

I don't see how sasuke's losing with susano'o up.
 

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No Shadow clones. No crow clones. Worse genjutsu. No izanami. But I bet you think assume has a better chance than itachi :coffee:

Considering that Sasuke is levels above Itachi and that he has more Chakra and Perfect Susano'o, yes, Sasuke stands a much better chance.
 

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Its clear to everyone that Hashirama has more chakra than Obito I hope, now that Sasuke has that chakra added to his own, already large reserves, Obito outlasting him isn't happening here, in fact its the other way around.

Sasuke wins since Obito can't do anything to him once Susanoo goes up.

Unless he can somehow find a way to hit Obito. Though I can't think of anything considering Sasuke's moves are too straight forward. I would say Nagashi when he tries to warp him with Kamui, but that will only paralyze his movements so Kamui can still be activated, and it won't kill him either.
 
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Sasuke rapes, wad up haters

Sasuke is my favorite character, but lets not push it and say that he rapes. I believe Sasuke can take this, but ''rape''? No.
 

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Considering that Sasuke is levels above Itachi and that he has more Chakra and Perfect Susano'o, yes, Sasuke stands a much better chance.

Because perfect susano'o and stamina bypasses intangibility? What does stamina matter when obito can fight days straight Lmao.
PS is useless except for defence. Surprise ribcage and chidori nagashi is far better for this match.
 

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Because perfect susano'o and stamina bypasses intangibility? What does stamina matter when obito can fight days straight Lmao.
PS is useless except for defence. Surprise ribcage and chidori nagashi is far better for this match.

No, but it saves him from it. Being inside of Susano'o, means that Obito cannot warp you or attack you directly even though he can pass through Susano'o, but even if he does that, he'll have to solidify to actually harm or catch Sasuke which is not an option due to Susano'o. The superior Chakra makes sure that Sasuke doesn't drop Susano'o and legged Susano'o makes sure that Obito cannot attack from underground. If Itachi had both of these, I would say that he wins.

@Underlined. Look at the conditions. Sasuke can fight longer.
 

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No, but it saves him from it. Being inside of Susano'o, means that Obito cannot warp you or attack you directly even though he can pass through Susano'o, but even if he does that, he'll have to solidify to actually harm or catch Sasuke which is not an option due to Susano'o. The superior Chakra makes sure that Sasuke doesn't drop Susano'o and legged Susano'o makes sure that Obito cannot attack from underground. If Itachi had both of these, I would say that he wins.

@Underlined. Look at the conditions. Sasuke can fight longer.

I have. It doesn't mean he can last as long as obito. From what we've seen, obito fought for upwards of 24hrs with no sign of exhaustion. Considering the only jutsu he requires to counter 99% of sasuke arsenal is not chakra heavy, I don't see sasuke lasting longer than him with PS's and a bunch of raiton jutsu.
Obito has to waste little chakra to evade sasuke.
Sasuke has to exhaust shit loads of chakra at a time.

And that's not forgetting Obito already has his own uchiha chakra boosted with chakra he's gotten from his zetsu modifications. Sasuke outlasting Obito is pretty much speculation. Arguments of 'attrition' aren't that good either. Sasuke has his ways of killing obito before chakra becomes a factor. It's only on NB people tout 'stamina' and 'chakra' where in the manga it's never been useful in a 1 on 1.

Ex. KN0 Naruto at vote had 10s if not 100s of times more chakra than Sasuke, yet sasuke still equaled, if not kicked his ass. Chakra/stamina are completely meaningless if you don't have the skill to end your opponent, because they'll eventually find a way to end you.
 

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Obito still wins. By using his spare eye for izanagi in conjunction with kamui sauke can't touch him or stop him.
 

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if it's a match fought by a fan who is controlling sasuke then sasuke wins but if it's a fight of manga sasuke vs obito then obito still takes it because no matter what sasuke ain't keeping his susano up for an entire day. obviously he will try few other moves and moment he drops it he vanishes....!
 

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The moment Obito tries to wrap Obito, Susanoo can hit him.

Sasuke high difficulty.
 

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Obito Med-High difficulty.

It stalemates until Sasuke runs out of chakra due to susano'o usage. Obito kamuis him.
 

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Sasuke doesn't have more chakra than Hashirama... Not even with "what's left of my chakra".

Obito still wins.
 

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Sasuke is my favorite character, but lets not push it and say that he rapes. I believe Sasuke can take this, but ''rape''? No.

meh was just getting tired of seeing so much hate of sasuke ur right he doesnt *rape* but still wins
 

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Sasuke most likely wins this.

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^ It takes Obito longer to warp other things than it does himself, and to warp people or objects, he has to touch them. This was shown against . Actually, this was shown against him . Also against . Danzo's . Literally everyone he goes up against really, and Sasuke is in a perfect defense against Kamui in this state:

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The reason for this is that Obito has no room to physically manifest near Sasuke without being burned, and as previously established, he needs to physically manifest to absorb surrounding objects, which is the reason why he was beaten by Minato and pushed so far by Konan. Even Yamato picked up on it:

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And to absorb himself completely, he also has to be in a physical state:

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So as soon as he gets touched by Amaterasu, it's over for him because Sasuke can use Amaterasu and Enton Arrows relentlessly and consecutively due to EMS, and it's even more extreme now due to having Hashirama's chakra. Sasuke can use the abilities for 5 minutes on end to run out Obito's time limit and to then finish him off.

The reason Obito is in so much danger when he gets touched by Amaterasu is because he'd have to physically manifest to absorb it, which leaves openings for even more of the same attack.

Honestly, MS Obito's only real chance of defeating Sasuke is if Sasuke so happens to burn out before he does. Obito has no way of attacking Sasuke while Sasuke's in his Enton-encased ribcage. The only real issue here is how Sasuke can offensively defeat Kamui, but it's pretty much a fact that Obito's a goner if he gets hit.

Obito can't win unless he takes physical form, which is also the way he loses. Obito's probably at more of a risk against Amaterasu than Sasuke is against Kamui.

If Obito decides to use large scale Mokuton, Sasuke can counter with CS or PS, while creating an around himself for potential Kamui blitzes.
 
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Sasuke wins.

Itachi does have the better arsenal to counter Obito though AC ._.​
 

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Amaterasu isn't a threat for Obito who can warp it casually like he did in canon. He has shown to be capable to lose a limb if it helps him to finish off a target without fearing. I don't see him hesitating in warping Sasuke despite his enton shield only to make it vanish out of his body later when he possess the jutsu allowing him to
 
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