Madara's Insurance In Case Obito Betrayed Him

[Bronze]

After watching today's episode and reading previous chapters, I came to conclusion that Madara had insurance for his Tsukuyomi on me. People claim that if Kabuto didn't revive Madara, then its over him, however that is incorrect as I will show you how.

We know Madara severed his limb from Gedo Mazo which resulted his death. Do you honestly think Madara will just leave everything for a 14 year old boy without at least leaving something behind. Madara is a intelligent guy, so he will do everything to make sure he revives himself. What is the insurance Madara had left behind after his death?

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Black Zetsu would be the trump card for Madara's revival. Black Zetsu is Madara's will, so it will kill anyone who stands on the plan's way. Its other purpose is in case Obito decides to betray Madara as he did in chapter 614, then it will merge with anyone who has Rinnegan forcing them to revive Madara through Rinne Tensie in which it would look like this:

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So in the end of the day, if Kabuto didn't revive Madara, then black Zetsu merges with any Rinnegan to revive Madara instead. So he had a plan.

 

[itachi4real]

I mean its madara. Why would he just trust EVERYTHING to obito. Ofc he had a back plan

 

[Bronze]

I mean its madara. Why would he just trust EVERYTHING to obito. Ofc he had a back plan

Some think it would be over for him if Kabuto didn't revive him. So this thread's purpose is to debunk those claims.

 

[Dantee]

Indeed black zetsu would be his trump card but that was only if Obito was weaken enough to be taken over by it.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Yes but at the same time I don't see see black zetsu taking down obito

 

[itachi4real]

Some think it would be over for him if Kabuto didn't revive him. So this thread's purpose is to debunk those claims.

Most think kabuto is top 3 or 5. F*** what they talking bout

 

[Bronze]

It was never stated that Obito needs to be weakened for black Zetsu to take over, considering when he was Juubi Jinchuuriki, Madara said ''He could have weakened''. So it doesn't matter if he was weakened, he gets taken over.

Most think kabuto is top 3 or 5. F*** what they talking bout

With ET, he is top 5, without it, hell no.

 

[Wparker6804]

I saw it comeing from the start.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

Black zetsu got beat by fodder for one. Two obito resisted madaras "trump card" with zero chakra and a hole in his chest. Madaras plan would have FAILED had kabuto not revived him.

 

[theacknowledgedone]

Madara didn't even intend to be brought back via edo tensei. That says enough for his intellegence for him to improvise like that.

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OT: Yeah, I agree.

 

[scorezor]

After watching today's episode and reading previous chapters, I came to conclusion that Madara had insurance for his Tsukuyomi on me. People claim that if Kabuto didn't revive Madara, then its over him, however that is incorrect as I will show you how.

We know Madara severed his limb from Gedo Mazo which resulted his death. Do you honestly think Madara will just leave everything for a 14 year old boy without at least leaving something behind. Madara is a intelligent guy, so he will do everything to make sure he revives himself. What is the insurance Madara had left behind after his death?

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Black Zetsu would be the trump card for Madara's revival. Black Zetsu is Madara's will, so it will kill anyone who stands on the plan's way. Its other purpose is in case Obito decides to betray Madara as he did in chapter 614, then it will merge with anyone who has Rinnegan forcing them to revive Madara through Rinne Tensie in which it would look like this:

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So in the end of the day, if Kabuto didn't revive Madara, then black Zetsu merges with any Rinnegan to revive Madara instead. So he had a plan.

so , now , you're stealing a theory? ...

 

[PIOLO]

awesomeness + rep

Despite his need for Obito to carry out the majority of the legwork for his plan, Madara set up a number of fall backs to ensure the plan would proceed exactly as he desired. He created Black Zetsu for the sole purpose of forcing Obito to comply with Madara's revival. Should Obito decide to not bring the deceased Uchiha back, Black Zetsu would possess and compel whomever possessed the Rinnegan to use the Samsara of Heavenly Life Technique to bring Madara back. As the original creator of Zetsu, Madara could communicate with all of his clones and give them directions, furthering his goals without requiring effort on his part. Madara was also very adaptable with the endgame of his plan, as in the event he was revived in a form that could not become the Ten-Tails' jinchūriki, he could manipulate the Zetsu cells in Obito's body to force him to act as he wished anyway to get his plan back on track.

 

[itachi4real]

Indeed black zetsu would be his trump card but that was only if Obito was weaken enough to be taken over by it.

U dont know if obito had to be weaken for him to be taken over. Madara just needed the bijuus extracted from obito which naruto helped out with. Then madara wanted to take over his body cus the bijuus were out

 

[PIOLO]

awesomeness + rep

Despite his need for Obito to carry out the majority of the legwork for his plan, Madara set up a number of fall backs to ensure the plan would proceed exactly as he desired. He created Black Zetsu for the sole purpose of forcing Obito to comply with Madara's revival. Should Obito decide to not bring the deceased Uchiha back, Black Zetsu would possess and compel whomever possessed the Rinnegan to use the Samsara of Heavenly Life Technique to bring Madara back. As the original creator of Zetsu, Madara could communicate with all of his clones and give them directions, furthering his goals without requiring effort on his part. Madara was also very adaptable with the endgame of his plan, as in the event he was revived in a form that could not become the Ten-Tails' jinchūriki, he could manipulate the Zetsu cells in Obito's body to force him to act as he wished anyway to get his plan back on track.

 

[Bronze]

Black zetsu got beat by fodder for one. Two obito resisted madaras "trump card" with zero chakra and a hole in his chest. Madaras plan would have FAILED had kabuto not revived him.

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OT: thank you for taking time reading my theory.

 

[vasu 32]

please!...
madara didn't even had the balls to go up against healthy obito,that's why he wanted hashi's wood,oh! sorry i mean,sm so bad.

Go read the manga again,madara himself said "I would be lying if I said everything went acc. to my plan,but BEGGaRS can't be chosers". Unless manga says otherwise,madara was a goner without kabuto.

 

[Dantee]

It was never stated that Obito needs to be weakened for black Zetsu to take over, considering when he was Juubi Jinchuuriki, Madara said ''He could have weakened''. So it doesn't matter if he was weakened, he gets taken over.

It was only ever indicated Madara needed Hashiramas SM to weaken him while he was Juubito. Whatever the case Madara never tried anything while Obito was in tip top shape. You're implying Black Zetsu can take overpower a fulled power Rinnegan Obito and I don't see that happening.

 

[Lamb]

I agree. I also believe Black Zetsu has to do with Madara's edo tensei ressurection. I believe Black Zetsu was leaking info and valuable objects to Oro and co, so they can become a hindrance to the Akatsuki. Think about how did Oro got all those Hashirama dna samples to test to all those children he experimented with. Or how does Kabuto even got Madara's DNA to revive him when only Zetsus and Onito knows where his body is hidden.

 

[itachi4real]

Black zetsu got beat by fodder for one. Two obito resisted madaras "trump card" with zero chakra and a hole in his chest. Madaras plan would have FAILED had kabuto not revived him.

So u believe madara is that dumb that he left everything to obito without a back up plan and without kabuto his plan wouldve failed? Ur taking madara for a fool.

 

[Bronze]

It was never stated that Obito needs to be weakened for black Zetsu to take over, considering when he was Juubi Jinchuuriki, Madara said ''He could have weakened''. So it doesn't matter if he was weakened, he gets taken over.

It was only ever indicated Madara needed Hashiramas SM to weaken him while he was Juubito. Whatever the case Madara never tried anything while Obito was in tip top shape. You're implying Black Zetsu can take overpower a fulled power Rinnegan Obito and I don't see that happening.

@Bold: He needed SM because only Senjutsu works on Juubi's Jinchuuriki. He then notes with Senjutsu, he could over power him with his trump card(Black Zetsu).

The rest is moot because of Madara's statement.

I agree. I also believe Black Zetsu has to do with Madara's edo tensei ressurection. I believe Black Zetsu was leaking info and valuable objects to Oro and co, so they can become a hindrance to the Akatsuki. Think about how did Oro got all those Hashirama dna samples to test to all those children he experimented with. Or how does Kabuto even got Madara's DNA to revive him when only Zetsus and Onito knows where his body is hidden.

That's quite plausible. Might have actually happened.