Establishing Naruto's Legacy

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First welcome to this thread. I have not made a thread in a very long time, and I have chosen the title of this one so that all the hardcore fanboy like myself take it easy for a cool-minded reading. In this thread, I will traceback all a specific feat of Naruto, then draw a very simple conclusion that everyone seems to ignore.

1. The first time Naruto recover from an injury, and its significance

Naruto's body regenerated from an injury the very first time on his way to the country of wave. It was a light wound from a Kunai.

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As it was visible, Kyuubi was not giving chakra to Naruto at this time. I think it was a pure regenerative behavior of the cells of Naruto's own body. However, from the comment made throughout the manga, it seems that this was due to Kyuubi. In any case if, whether Kyuubi played a role or not, Naruto's body has gained the ability to regenerate. In fact, I think it was because Naruto's own cells have the healing property that he was able to tolerate Kyuubi's chakra leaking from the seal. Any normal human being would have died as Raikage stated for the cloud ninja who hate Kyuubi flesh.

2. The Second time Naruto regenerated: A major one

Naruto weakened
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Kabuto explained how he has destroyed anything that can help him recover. This include connection to Kyuubi chakra
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Kyuubi losing his life because Naruto is dying
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Naruto woke up
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First, I know that as long as Kyuubi and Naruto are connected, they can exchange life force. However, here, we can see that only Naruto has his own life force, but he can even regenerate that life force without Kyuubi's help. Moreover, it is worth noting how Naruto heart stopped beating, and how Tsunade had already failed to heal him. Yet, Naruto woke up. This prove that actually, Naruto's cell have the property to reconstruct anything Kabuto destroyed and to restore his life.

3. The third time Naruto regenerate: boost from Kyuubi or what?

Sasuke pierced through Naruto
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Next, here, it is clear Kyuubi took over Naruto's body
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Then, Naruto healed at very fast pace
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The conclusion most people got from this chapter was that Naruto was healed because of Kyuubi. Clearly, it is undeniable that Kyuubi's chakra played a big role in accelerating Naruto's healing. However, wouldn't Naruto healed anyway even if Kyuubi did not put is chakra in. As far as my analysis goes, Kyuubi's chakra was simply a boost in the regeneration process while the regeneration itself is a property of Naruto's body. Even if Kyuubi did not intervene, Naruto would have healed slowly as he did with the Kunai injury or with Kabuto's attack.

I could bring another panel, but these are the major ones.

4. Back to chapter 661 and 662

In 661 and 662, we see that Naruto has his Biju extracted and his dying. From all the analysis I have seen so far, no one mention that Naruto can regenerate on his own. Rather, everyone is convinced that Naruto will die if no healing or chyo technique is applied. However, I disagree with such analysis.

From the above regeneration cases, it is pretty clear that Naruto can regenerate even without Kyuubi's help. In fact, the reason Naruto is able to be Kyuubi's Jinchurki is because his body can resist the caustic effect of Kyuubi's chakra. Interestingly, I noticed that Kishi is moving in the same direction as my analysis, and this is the only direction that will be consistent with everything given about Naruto so far. How is Kishi doing this?

First, Tsunade is out of juice, and cannot heal Naruto. Second, Sakura also ran out of juice, and Naruto's heart stopped. Next, I doubt Sakura will forfeit her life to save Naruto, and I doubt anyone know Chyo's jutsus there. Thus, the only option left is for Naruto to wake up on his own.

5. Some clues on Naruto's future power up

The first clue is the self healing itself that Naruto will achieve without external help. This self healing and recovering from Biju extraction will be a key that will raise question on Naruto's power. The people who will witness this will be Gaara and Sakura. I am confident in this theory because I think neither Gaara, nor Sakura is going to give his life to save Naruto if Naruto cannot save himself - that is he is powerless without Kyuubi. This will not make any sense. In addition, to make Naruto's self healing from biju extraction epic, Kishi has restate something that is common belief:

Here Zetsus reaffirmed that dying from extraction is an absolute rule
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While this can be used by some people to say that Naruto will die, it is usually used by writers to establish the legacy of something special - in this case to show that Naruto is beyond common rules. This is consistent with the connection between Naruto and Rikudo, which suggest that things that are normal to other should not apply to Naruto.

The second clue is solely attached to Gaara's actions. Unlike what most people thought, our predictions were correct. That is the main goal of Kyuubi's request to Gaara is not to heal Naruto. Kyuubi himself know already that Naruto can regenerate, and any external help will be for boosting the process. In the following pages, we can see that Gaara main goal is to take Naruto somewhere else.

Gaara state that Naruto has to recover on the way to their destination. This suggests that healing Naruto is not the priority.
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Finally, some people think that by sealing Yin Kyuubi, Naruto will wake up. However, this is not true. If Naruto heart has stop and he cannot regenerate on his own, then it is even impossible to seal biju inside him because he is dead, and the biju will die as well, or simply take his body over. Thus, again, Naruto has to wake up before any sealing. Besides, I hope Naruto will not receive Yin without establishing the legacy of his own power.

Conlusion: The rebirth of the SO6P

Well, as I tried to show, Naruto will recover on his own simply because he has his own power that will allow him to recover. After that, Gaara is taking him to some place where he will discover his own power. As for now, the only thing I know is that Kyuubi told Gaara that the fate of the Shinobi alliance depend on his mission. Moreover, I think without a proper new power, it will be impossible for Naruto to beat Madara's army even with Yin Kyuubi.

Thus, the only thing that come logically from this analysis is a rebirth of Rikudo Sennin. As Naruto has no choice but to draw the least bit of his own power, he will awaken the power that was masked by Kyuubi's presence all his life. Note that every time Naruto tried to go beyond his limit, Kyuubi always came out. This time, it will bring out his own power.
 
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I hope he dies and then comes back better than ever, Same goes for Sasuke.
 

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Amazing.. with facts and explanation good job.
 

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Great analysis! We've never seen naruto push himself past his limits without Kurama taking over! this should be insteresting!
 
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really great analysis... i agree, naruto will be even stronger than when he was with kurama.
 

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Excellent analysis! Very well thought out and you provided panels to boost your theory. I myself believe that the So6P has to come into play at this point. Needless to say, it'll be interesting to see just how far Naruto's will and body can be tested.
 

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I think it is a good thing that Naruto has lost the power of Kurama. Now he can show the rest of the world that he has the power to change the world and bring about peace (and become Hokage) without the help of Kurama. Whether he meets Rikudo or not, I still don't think that he will and up with a bijuu again.

But I like the theory of Naruto regenerating on his own. Very well done. Keep it up.
 

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The points u brought up are not only valid but thought provoking..Awesome theory and analysis Rep for this
 

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everybody does regenerate by themselves. it's natural to heal after getting an injury...! XD
anyway kurama's chakra was what boosted naruto's recovery so without kurama i don't think he can do much in regeneration process but his life force is no doubt good because he is uzmaki and that's why he is still alive...!
and yes i believe what spiral zetsu said was to foreshadow naruto coming back to life but it won't be done by naruto himself...! someone will obviously help him to either heal or revive....!
 

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very good thread among the sea of crap that usually comes after a chapter + rep
 

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everybody does regenerate by themselves. it's natural to heal after getting an injury...! XD
anyway kurama's chakra was what boosted naruto's recovery so without kurama i don't think he can do much in regeneration process but his life force is no doubt good because he is uzmaki and that's why he is still alive...!
and yes i believe what spiral zetsu said was to foreshadow naruto coming back to life but it won't be done by naruto himself...! someone will obviously help him to either heal or revive....!


The bolded statement is not true. Remember the parallelism made between Dan death and Naruto's condition in Kabuto's attack. Remember how Neiji died. And also remember every mission Naruto and someone else did where the person spent many day in hospital while Naruto healed within a few hours or so. This tell you that Naruto's regeneration is a feat that no one else apart from Hashirama has.

In his current condition, everyone think he is going to die because of impatience. Maybe only a few minute has passed since he got Kyuubi extracted. In addition, he has been fighting for many days at the front line against the greatest enemy. Thus, it is needless to say that he is very low on his own physical energy. My guess is that a few hours or a day of rest will put him back on his feet.

Besides, while Zetsu's statement is appealing, I disagree when people say that Kushina died of Kyuubi extraction. She got Kyuubi extracted, created a barrier, and a chakra chain that nailed down Kyuubi. Then, she still have energy to block Kyuubi's attack on Naruto. Moreover, she still had life force to be sealed in Naruto and enough to fight Kyuubi later on. In all honesty, it would be a fallacy to say that she died from Kyuubi extraction.
 

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nice compilation of some great ideas but i think after reaching the destination........Gaara will give his life in return for naruto's life..... like the time when gaara was on verge of death coz of biju extraction. and Gaara will explain sakura the details on what to do...after reaching the destination. :cool:
 

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everybody does regenerate by themselves. it's natural to heal after getting an injury...! XD
anyway kurama's chakra was what boosted naruto's recovery so without kurama i don't think he can do much in regeneration process but his life force is no doubt good because he is uzmaki and that's why he is still alive...!
and yes i believe what spiral zetsu said was to foreshadow naruto coming back to life but it won't be done by naruto himself...! someone will obviously help him to either heal or revive....!

Also to add to NaruSasuRival statement, bolded is just plain wrong.

People heal they don't regenerate. Naruto regenerates he features no scars from such devastating attacks like the Chidori or getting his skin burned off by Kyuubi chakra. Both of which should have scarred him terribly.

Ninja's bodies don't "regenerate" even when using healing jutsu on them. What Healing jutsu does is accelerate the healing process. IE much like Tsunade's Genisis rebirth jutsu which forces accelerated guided cell division it accelerates "healing" not regeneration.

Regeneration happens without direction and reconstructs the previous biological structures that existed before. Natural healing however does not, blood vessels do not rebuild themselves skin does not grow back as it was before. It scars.

A Medic-nin guides the healing process at once both guiding the reconstruction of biological structures to the best of THEIR knowledge at an accelerated rate. Hence why the quality of the Medic determines the success rate of the healing, for example Tsunade is the best medic of the ninja world because of her massive knowledge of biology and how to recreate it at a fast pace not because of her techniques, which are only possible because of that superior knowledge. The very best medic can "SIMULATE" regeneration but they cannot emulate it perfectly, because they cannot know a persons body better that the cells and DNA of said person do.

Regeneration is the mechanism by which the body itself takes the place of a medic-nin directing the healing and reconstructing biological structures (AKA lungs heart muscles skin) within the body from the bodies OWN blueprints. ANY kind of chakra can enhance this process not just Kyuubi. Naruto's own healing abilities are as strong as they are because of his own powerful yang chakra which can be further enhanced by kyuubi chakra.

Personally I find the idea that Kyuubi chakra "LEAKING" (not directed) from the seal is entirely benign and has "HEALING" qualities that grant a miraculous regeneration ability to be laughable. In every instance we have seen Kyuubi chakra used it comes across as potent, corrosive and dangerous in every way. Yet somehow Naruto has gained a regeneration ability from this leaked chakra?

I'm sorry but it seems absurd to believe that Kyuubi chakra can have healing qualities of any kind. For example when Kakashi gained the Kyuubi chakra he said he wasn't healed he just felt like he had all his energy back and that was using Naruto's chakra as an interface with the Kyuubi chakra.



I think there is a previous mention of it, but as can be seen the Kyuubi chakra hasn't been regenerating anyone. It can protect but it can't enhance regeneration that doesn't already exist its a catalyst.

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Just to add something to my previous argument, Regular ninja won't regenerate their wounds no matter how much Kyuubi/naruto chakra is pumped into them, they may HEAL at an accelerated rate but that won't fix wounds to the point where its like they were never received. In order for a body to regenerate at all those particular genes need to enabled within a ninja (all human have these genes they are just inactive) chakra of any kind wouldn't be capable of forcing a regenerative effect which is entirely different to a healing effect.

For example the Ninja alliance, the chakra cloaks can protect them and act independently through Naruto's will and it also enhances the ninja's abilities passively giving them a boost but it does not heal them.

If it was the Kyuubi chakra giving Naruto his regeneration abilities (which if everyone is to believed is a passive effect) then Sakura wouldn't have had to heal any of the SA as the shroud would have healed them already doing her out of a job.
 
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I'm sorry but even though I support this theory in general, I don't think that you provide good arguments to back up your theory. It was more like manipulating certain facts in order for the to fit in your theory. For instance, at first you mention that about the Kunai and even though you eventually agree that it was thanks to Kurama that he was able to regenerate, then out of the blue you re- use this same argument while saying that it was thanks to Naruto's regenerative abilities alone. The fact, that later he was able to avoid death against Kabuto on his own by using regerative abilities is also a fallacy. What saved him was just his sheer will power, otherwise, his body would have actually started to cure, something which obviously didn't happen. Next, you suggest that Naruto can heal on his own and exactly because Kurama knows it, what the latter told to gaara had nothing to do with Naruto's revival, since it is somemthing certain and so the important thing is to take him to somewhere specifically. However, if that's true then why Gaara had to take a stop in order to take Sakura with him? After all, according to you, if what Kurama told to Gaara is true, then there wouldn't be such a need. The reason for that is that Naruto can indeed die now, and the chakra Sakura provides him right now, is insufficient to keep him alive. What Gaara tried to do with Sakura was to try to keep Naruto alive as long as possible, in order to bring him to Minato. Kurama most probably informed gaara that getting his Yin chakra won't be an easy task since Black zetsu controls Obito who will interfere. Lastly, there is quite a distance afar from Minato's location so it might be necessary till he reaches him. I don't say that Kurama's chakra will do the trick but it might allow Naruto to live for quite some time and then, with that time gained, he will reach the place you suggest.
 
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I'm sorry but even though I support this theory in general, I don't think that you provide good arguments to back up your theory. It was more like manipulating certain facts in order for the to fit in your theory. For instance, at first you mention that about the Kunai and even though you eventually agree that it was thanks to Kurama that he was able to regenerate, then out of the blue you re- use this same argument while saying that it was thanks to Naruto's regenerative abilities alone. The fact, that later he was able to avoid death against Kabuto on his own by using regerative abilities is also a fallacy. What saved him was just his sheer will power, otherwise, his body would have actually started to cure, something which obviously didn't happen. Next, you suggest that Naruto can heal on his own and exactly because Kurama knows it, what the latter told to gaara had nothing to do with Naruto's revival, since it is somemthing certain and so the important thing is to take him to somewhere specifically. However, if that's true then why Gaara had to take a stop in order to take Sakura with him? After all, according to you, if what Kurama told to Gaara is true, then there wouldn't be such a need. The reason for that is that Naruto can indeed die now, and the chakra Sakura provides him right now, is insufficient to keep him alive. What Gaara tried to do with Sakura was to try to keep Naruto alive as long as possible, in order to bring him to Minato. Kurama most probably informed gaara that getting his Yin chakra won't be an easy task since Black zetsu controls Obito who will interfere. Lastly, there is quite a distance afar from Minato's location so it might be necessary till he reaches him. I don't say that Kurama's chakra will do the trick but it might allow Naruto to live for quite some time and then, with that time gained, he will reach the place you suggest.


......=_= there is a return key for a reason....

It might not be my thread but I laid out some explanations for advocating Naruto having Regenerative abilities rather than not. If you would review that it might help me see if I missed anything or made an oversight in my reasoning.
 

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very nice . you have my respect
 
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