Not everyone is believing the hype?

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Everyone in the manga thought hashiramas power was a fairy tale and it turned out to be true and you guys think hiruzens power is a fairy tale and some of us enlightened ones know his power to be true while others cannot believe it cause he is too powerful

So just wondering why can you non believers simply accept now that hiruzen can use all of konoha jutsu, minus maybe secret clan jutsu and kekkei genkai techniques. I mean is this not proof enough that he can because he used all 5 chairs natures at the same time nonethless? Ive been a fan of hiruzen the first time I saw him in an episode of naruto and even I slowly started to lose hope, I thought maybe it was a long running joke of kishi. Especially when he was brought back and used shurikens again and juubito took him out.

However I was still hoping we would see more and even if we don't get any more feats from him this is more than enough that as a very old man he still is the best guy on the battlefield. What if he combines 2 elements (I'm not saying he can or will) are you still going to question his power and say no we need more feats. We deny everything and when we get something amazing its not enough we want more. He is the best and owned both hashirama and tobirama at the same time yes they were weakened versions but guess what it was not prime hiruzen, so if it was full powered hasshirama and tobirama vs prime hiruzen the result would be the same if not better, because you have to face 1 simple fact he learned with them and knows all their strengths and weaknesses and therefore can capitalise on them.

 

[Flawž]

Until hiruzen shows feats, hes fodder.

 

[Hypemaster]

I don't know why but it pains me that they can not believe in the hype. Poor children.

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[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Until hiruzen shows feats, hes fodder.

What manga are you reading that you claim he is featless, the only one who is featless in combat is rikkudo sennin

 

[Flawž]

What manga are you reading that you claim he is featless, the only one who is featless in combat is rikkudo sennin

He still got part 1 feats, nothing else.

 

[Cursed Prince]

Hes still the weakest hokage, nothing he's done so far changes that.

 

[Chuggs]

Hiruzen has showed that he in fact is the God of fodders.
Only the fodders of the SA are impressed by him, but to Madara he's mere gravel in his path.

 

[KingHashirama]

Ah, but here is the thing that you are forgetting, before putting him over Hashirama or on his level or Tobirama's level.. The fact that no one believed Hashirama had the powers he had.. lol.

I said it before to people and i shall say it again:

1. Hashirama (Mokuton/All-rounder)
2. Tobirama (Creator of techs/ all -rounder)
3. Hiruzen (All-rounder)
4. Minato/Tsunade (Ftg/Medical Ninjutsu)

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

He still got part 1 feats, nothing else.

Sorry are you trying to say Edo feats do not count? In that case tobirama can do nothing as he is featless

 

[Young Vongola]

He pulled off a crazy epic feat in today's chapter but really...honestly...people are overrating the **** out of the guy and making stuff up. Just because he can spit all 5 nature elements doesn't mean he can:
a) combine them
b) use every jutsu

Maybe he can use a majority of Konoha techniques, but really how many of those are there? Even if he is able to use Ino-Shika-Cho with clones that won't do him any good in a situation like that, and it hasn't even been confirmed.

 

[Flawž]

Sorry are you trying to say Edo feats do not count? In that case tobirama can do nothing as he is featless

What did he do in Edo state?

We already know he could use all 5 elements and we already know he can throw shurikens. what else did he do?

thats right, nothing.

 

[Trollasaur]

Until hiruzen shows feats, hes fodder.

You're acting like an idiot...

Stop.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

The worst part is we will never see prime hiruzen cause he was not brought back in his prime, its unjust. How would you guys feel if old madara was here instead or an old hashirama and tobirama tell me how strong they would be yeah they would be worse than fodders. All I'm saying is you guys need to give hiruzen some respect, he is a kage and no kage deserves to be called a fodder

 

[startup97]

He still got part 1 feats, nothing else.

Hiruzen>Tobirama

 

[Joker]

What did he do in Edo state?

We already know he could use all 5 elements and we already know he can throw shurikens. what else did he do?

thats right, nothing.

Yess, Hiruzen blocks some katons, and suitons everyone hops on the D.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

What did he do in Edo state?

We already know he could use all 5 elements and we already know he can throw shurikens. what else did he do?

thats right, nothing.

People did not believe he could use all 5 natures just as they do not believe he can use all jutsu. So let me ask you a question do you think at the very least he can't use all elemental ninjutsu of konoha considerinf he just used all chakra natures? Also your disregarding his speed feat and analytical prowess of how quickly he got here with the other hokage and how quickly he worked out juubitos jutsu and let's not forget cutting through the god tree with a blunt object.

 

[Trollasaur]

Yess, Hiruzen blocks some katons, and suitons everyone hops on the D.

Not only that but it's from the ****ing buddah and that buddah is soloing the alliance right now, and he learned how to use it by observing it I believe....'

He's no fodder.

 

[The Necromancer]

Congrats. Edo Hiruzen is on Kakuzu's level now.

 

[-Punk-]

Hashimara > Minato > Tobirama > Hiruzen = Tsunade . That will always be for me & I think is pretty clear , the people above Hiruzen just have more in their arsenal than him.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Yess, Hiruzen blocks some katons, and suitons everyone hops on the D.

Your forgetting he blocked them all at the same time sorry not blocked but countered the techniques and neutralised them. Tell me of another time that has been done by anyone?