Hiruzen

[benzy]

Okay HIruzen can use 5 elements ? And ? What ? How this makes him the GOD of shinobis just tell me how ? There is a A LOT OF Characters that Hiruzen cannot beat 1 on 1 with these 5 elements attacks ? Hiruzen fans get on the ground already.

 

[Sir Blades]

LULZ Fodder making rustled jimmies thread.

 

[dualstr]

It's not about just using 5 elements, it's about being ABLE to control all natures. I was one of the SO6P abilities. And cmon, he has much more to show.

 

[thegame]

Just proves Hiruzen was the most skilled shinobi of them all, not that he was stronger.

There is a reason he was called the Professor.

 

[dualstr]

Let's just see how he's going to behave in front of the shinsuusenju

 

[Draxus]

You gotta admit it was one of the most boss panels in the war are when Hiruzen was all like, "I'm on it." Reminded me of Macel Wallace.

 

[benzy]

It was cool and what ? Puting him above Hashirama Madara and much more is just retarded. Kakashi has 4 elements i dont see u to put him in top 5 ?

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

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sure ........................

 

[Uchiha Samater]

basically.....

 

[Uchiha Samater]

it comes down to this

Ohnoki mentioned the secrets of his Particle style jutsu [a Kekkai Tota] was passed down to him by Muu, it is not confirmed that they are related in anyway, but I digress. From this we can assume someone can learn the Particle Style.

Problem is mixing 3 elements is almost impossible, and its pretty much a miracle Muu and Ohnoki are able too.

Hiruzen being able to use 5 elements is unprecedented for a ''regular'' shinobi, with no doujutsu such as the Sharingan or Rinnegan, especially with clones [ see chapter 375 page 11]

IT doesn't put him ahead of Hashirama due to feats seen, however it does open the door to the statement that he mastered all the jutsu of Konoha, and raises the question to Kishi that what jutsu's was he able to perform in his youth

 

[Orochimagus]

I am guessing Kakashi's Sharingan has a hand in his ability to handle other elements. And he's only got 3 in the manga. Hiruzen doesn't need Dojutsu or KKG to have a high level of elemental affinity. Hiruzen was one of the most powerful shinobi in history, so much so that he was admired as the God of Shinobi (忍の神, Shinobi no Kami) in his prime, and was said to be the strongest Hokage that Konoha has ever had. (First databook). This is something not even Madara managed to do. With credentials like that people still hate on him.

 

[benzy]

I am guessing Kakashi's Sharingan has a hand in his ability to handle other elements. And he's only got 3 in the manga. Hiruzen doesn't need Dojutsu or KKG to have a high level of elemental affinity. Hiruzen was one of the most powerful shinobi in history, so much so that he was admired as the God of Shinobi (忍の神, Shinobi no Kami) in his prime, and was said to be the strongest Hokage that Konoha has ever had. (First databook). This is something not even Madara managed to do. With credentials like that people still hate on him.

And where is the fact that he is the strongest one ? Again im saying that 5 elements is not making him the strongest learning all konoha jutsus is not making him the strongest like ppl think. Dont compare Ohnoki to hirzen Ohnoki's style is mixed 3 elements Hiruzen cant or at least didnt show us that he can mix his 5 elements yet again using 5 elements doesnt make him the strongest it just proves that he belongs to his title. Like Jiraya said to Oro it doesnt matter how much jutsus u learn.

 

[Uzumakisan]

Even better, he could have used the opposite elements and bring that Mokuton down.
What about that?

 

[Imperius]

God of Shinobi:

He can use all the elemental attacks in a very fashionable way, you can see the way he spits out water with his mouth that he has years of experience and the way the elemental attacks blocked the mini-Shinsuusenju's attacks was in such a skillful manner.

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He can use 5 elements​

 

[Draxus]

It was cool and what ? Puting him above Hashirama Madara and much more is just retarded. Kakashi has 4 elements i dont see u to put him in top 5 ?

Dude... you sound like one of those crazy homeless people w/ an aluminum foil hate screaming about the world ending. Please submit some actual proof anyone putting Sarutobi above all other ninja, because I haven't seen it. I think you are probably just one of those guys who constantly touted the 3rd was all hype and was fodder, and now that he finally showed an impressive feet you are feeling a bit butt-hurt about it... or you're just a troll.

Basically Hiruzen just showed us something never before seen by any other ninja outside Nagato, so his fans have the right to say it brings cadence to the claim of him being the God of Shinobi of his time and certainly makes his "Professor" title as one who mastered all Konaha's jutsu valid.

I mean just think about the possibilities of how he could combine elemental attacks w/ just 2 clones ala Naruto/Sasuke. And no you don't need proof showing him do this, because Kakashi has told us if two ninja match output of two combine-able elemental jutsus they will come together to make a stronger one. Matching output would be as easy as taping the top of your head and rubbing your stomach at the same time for 2 shadow clones. This is NOT the same as KKG, but it's still a powerful tool.

All this ranking non-sense you're spouting is meaningless. There is no universal strongest ninja top 10, a large majority of naruto fans would agree with, and for good reason. That being the case, all top 10/5/3's are invalid, and purely a case of personal opinion.

BTW... Kakashi has 3 elements (lightning, water, and earth), this is manga fact. The 4th element (fire, I think?) is pure anime filler.

 

[benzy]

Dude... you sound like one of those crazy homeless people w/ an aluminum foil hate screaming about the world ending. Please submit some actual proof anyone putting Sarutobi above all other ninja, because I haven't seen it. I think you are probably just one of those guys who constantly touted the 3rd was all hype and was fodder, and now that he finally showed an impressive feet you are feeling a bit butt-hurt about it... or you're just a troll.

Basically Hiruzen just showed us something never before seen by any other ninja outside Nagato, so his fans have the right to say it brings cadence to the claim of him being the God of Shinobi of his time and certainly makes his "Professor" title as one who mastered all Konaha's jutsu valid.

I mean just think about the possibilities of how he could combine elemental attacks w/ just 2 clones ala Naruto/Sasuke. And no you don't need proof showing him do this, because Kakashi has told us if two ninja match output of two combine-able elemental jutsus they will come together to make a stronger one. Matching output would be as easy as taping the top of your head and rubbing your stomach at the same time for 2 shadow clones. This is NOT the same as KKG, but it's still a powerful tool.

All this ranking non-sense you're spouting is meaningless. There is no universal strongest ninja top 10, a large majority of naruto fans would agree with, and for good reason. That being the case, all top 10/5/3's are invalid, and purely a case of personal opinion.

BTW... Kakashi has 3 elements (lightning, water, and earth), this is manga fact. The 4th element (fire, I think?) is pure anime filler.

Are u blind ? This forum is filled with threads like HIruzen the god of shinobi Hiruzen > NV and Only SO6P > Hiruzen and u are asking wher i saw that ? U are stupid.

 

[Draxus]

Are u blind ? This forum is filled with threads like HIruzen the god of shinobi Hiruzen > NV and Only SO6P > Hiruzen and u are asking wher i saw that ? U are stupid.

Yeah... no. There are no thread like that on first 3 pages of this forum, and if there were they are just trolls and not worth noting.

You see how I gave you a reasoned and rational response, and you came back w/ hostility, name-calling, and NO PROOF? You sir, are a troll, and I'm done here. Have a good one.

EDIT: You know I actually looked at you post history to get the proof you couldn't be bothered to show, and all the the threads you are talking about are in Naruto Discussion. There is a real reason I never go to the forum. It's full of stuff like this, far worse on average of what you see in Naruto Manga. However like I said, those thread are either obvious trolls or don't make the claims you rage against. Your reaction to one in particular was completely unreasonable to someone merely stating it was an impressive feet. You should post this pointless thread where it belongs and keep that BS out of this one. I'm assuming the reason you didn't post this thread in THAT forum is a ban?

 

[Orochimagus]

People are just being haters. They forget that there are various sources saying he was the strongest in his prime. At the very least he's the most talented from knowing so many Jutsu. He's got no bloodline limits but masters the elements to such a level showing he trained harder than anyone else. Needless to say he was in two world wars and still survived to old age. That's something the other Hokages failed to manage.

 

[Thorium]

Kakashi said that jounins can usually learn up to 3 elements in total after years of training. What's to stop the Professor from learning all five? After all, he is very old and had quite a bit of time to train.

 

[kisamexRocks]

Okay HIruzen can use 5 elements ? And ? What ? How this makes him the GOD of shinobis just tell me how ? There is a A LOT OF Characters that Hiruzen cannot beat 1 on 1 with these 5 elements attacks ? Hiruzen fans get on the ground already.

Well, to master all 5 elements is a big thing. I don't see many people going around and mastering 5 elements. Besides it took Obito and Madara the rinnegan to master the 5 elements but Hiruzen did it himself. So he was a god of shinobi and out of the kages at that time was the strongest one. Don't hate cause you mad.