Is Hiruzen finally on Kakuzu's level?

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In today's chapter Hiruzen used the five elements, a feat that Kakuzu had years ago.

Is he finally on Kakuzu's level?
 

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Nope. not even. to be real. even TenTen with the fan could've blocked that
 

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We knew Hiruzen could use all 5 before we even knew about Kakazu's character to begin with.
 

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Clearly if you have been reading the manga from part 1 you would have already known that hiruzen could use all elements. He FARR surpasses what kakuzu can do. Hiruzen's clones arnt limited to 1 element like kakuzu's hearts
 

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Hiruzen > Kakuzu

Not the old one that fought Oro though
 

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Kakuzu never used Suiton. However, it is logical to assume he can, I suppose.

Still, Hiruzen's jutsu are stronger and he actually trained then mastered the element, Kakuzu just stole other Shinobi's hearts.

Hiruzen is on another level.
 

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Clearly if you have been reading the manga from part 1 you would have already known that hiruzen could use all elements. He FARR surpasses what kakuzu can do. Hiruzen's clones arnt limited to 1 element like kakuzu's hearts

Although i am inclined to agree with Hiruzen being stronger then Kakuzu, you also need to remember that Kakuzu DID fight Hashirama in his prime, and lived.



I mean, that is NOT a small feat to pull off.

The Data book also ranks Hiruzen at 34, and Kakuzu at 32.5, so even the official data says that they are very close in total power and abilities.
 
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Eh...

We'd either have to make Hiruzen ten years younger and speculate on his stamina and chakra reserves, or use the Edo Hiruzen without regen. to have him win against Kakuzu
 

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I'd say he's slightly above Kakuzu level since he can also use water.
 

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No not yet, to even say he is close cause of 5 elements is foolish, There is more to Kakuzu's game than that.
 

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1. Hiruzen is fighting Hashirama's Sage Mode power. Last time we saw Kakuzu he got fodderized by Choji.

2. We can't assume this is all Hiruzen is capable of. Maybe he has even more powerful elemental jutsu in his arsenal. And then he has the Monkey King and he's much smarter than Kakuzu despite being younger than him.

In fact, didn't Kakuzu get fodderized by Hashirama too? And here Hiruzen is taking on Hashirama's most powerful technique. Hiruzen >>> Kakuzu
 
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