Zetsu takes the Gauntlet

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Yeah, but Zetsu with Shisusenju is like Madara with Kurama. Indeed, the Shisusenju was pulled out of nowhere. Let's say that he summoned it., though it's not his originally. Zetsu is basically Madara DNA.
I'm pretty sure Zetsu is Hashirama's DNA unless I missed something. o_O The only zetsu that is like Madara is black zetsu because Madara put his will inside before he died.
Spiral Zetsu is different from the white zetsu.. he was already shown to be strong with mokuton before.
I'm sure if Madara summoned it the Shinsuusenju it would be way larger... but I suppose we'll have to wait and see but it looks like more than not that it was spiral zetsu that made it.
 

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I'm pretty sure Zetsu is Hashirama's DNA unless I missed something. o_O The only zetsu that is like Madara is black zetsu because Madara put his will inside before he died.
Spiral Zetsu is different from the white zetsu.. he was already shown to be strong with mokuton before.
I'm sure if Madara summoned it the Shinsuusenju it would be way larger... but I suppose we'll have to wait and see but it looks like more than not that it was spiral zetsu that summoned it.

Yes, but Madara himself also has Hashirama's DNA. But it does require a good amount of chakra to summon that thing. Yamato also has Hashirama's DNA, but I don't think he can summon the Shisusenju. But sure, we talk here about a white being made ONLY of that, so it's possible. I wonder though, is there only 1 Shisusenju that can be summoned by multiple people, or can each have their own?
 

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-Shinsuusenju has 1000 arms size of 100% Kurama.
-Its used to fight on Hashirama's behalf.
-Mokujin can sit on top of it.

Obviously it can catch TBB considering Madara infused the PS blades to prevent Hashirama from catching TBB.
Each of Hashirama's Mokuton techs have special features. For example, Mokuryu can absorb chakra but Mokujin can't, instead it's able to catch Bijuudama like tennis balls, and that's something Mokuryu can't do. Plus, this Shinsuusenju is much smaller than Hashirama's and it's hands can be taken out by smaller attacks i.e. Ay taking out one of it's hands with a simple V2 strike.
 

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Yes, but Madara himself also has Hashirama's DNA. But it does require a good amount of chakra to summon that thing. Yamato also has Hashirama's DNA, but I don't think he can summon the Shisusenju. But sure, we talk here about a white being made ONLY of that, so it's possible. I wonder though, is there only 1 Shisusenju that can be summoned by multiple people, or can each have their own?
Yeah I know Madara does.. whats your point? It probably does require alot of chakra but this Shinsuusenju is wayyyyyy smaller than Hashirama's so it wouldn't be far fetched to say that spiral zetsu can do it. I don't think Shinsuusenju is a summoning (idk) but more like something you create mokuton with and depending on chakra can vary in size as we've seen here but then again I'm not sure.
 

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Yeah I know Madara does.. whats your point? It probably does require alot of chakra but this Shinsuusenju is wayyyyyy smaller than Hashirama's so it wouldn't be far fetched to say that spiral zetsu can do it. I don't think Shinsuusenju is a summoning (idk) but more like something you create mokuton with and depending on chakra can vary in size as we've seen here but then again I'm not sure.

Yeah, this seems like an accurate theory.
 

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Yeah, this seems like an accurate theory.

I suppose so... I guess we'll get an explanation later on. Anyways we should probably stop posting so we don't take up all the space in this thread Lol
 

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Each of Hashirama's Mokuton techs have special features. For example, Mokuryu can absorb chakra but Mokujin can't, instead it's able to catch Bijuudama like tennis balls, and that's something Mokuryu can't do. Plus, this Shinsuusenju is much smaller than Hashirama's and it's hands can be taken out by smaller attacks i.e. Ay taking out one of it's hands with a simple V2 strike.

Uhhh no. The only Mokuton shown a special feature is Mokuryu. The others can all restrain through Jukai Kutan and FTW. Techniques like Mokujin and Shinsuusenju act as summons for users.

Ay managed to penetrate through its arms because he is utilizing Raiton which uses cutting power that shown to be weakness for Mokuton. TBB is a ball and can easily be cached.


Oh god. Whatever.
If it's indeed Zetsu with the Shisusenju, even if it ain't his, he can defeat all those 11 you listed.

He doesn't beat Minato, Nagato nor Kabuto with it. He wins against the others.
 

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Uhhh no. The only Mokuton shown a special feature is Mokuryu. The others can all restrain through Jukai Kutan and FTW. Techniques like Mokujin and Shinsuusenju act as summons for users.

Ay managed to penetrate through its arms because he is utilizing Raiton which uses cutting power that shown to be weakness for Mokuton. TBB is a ball and can easily be cached.
And what's FTW going to do? Put the Bijuudama to sleep?

would end Zetsu.
 

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And what's FTW going to do? Put the Bijuudama to sleep?

would end Zetsu.

I was talking about how FTW is a restraining and KO jutsu.

Its small and wont shit. Shinsuusenju pounds Hachibi as he charges TBB.
 

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I was talking about how FTW is a restraining and KO jutsu.

Its small and wont shit. Shinsuusenju pounds Hachibi as he charges TBB.
That was done by 4TKN, Bee's compressed Bijuudama would be at least 4 times more powerful. Considering Shinsuusenju isn't durable and this Shinsuusenju is the same size as Bijuu, Bee would decimate it.

Zetsu's Shinsuusenju's range is much smaller and Bee won't be charging up a Bijuudama while he's a few metres away from it. He's not that stupid.
 

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That was done by 4TKN, Bee's compressed Bijuudama would be at least 4 times more powerful. Considering Shinsuusenju isn't durable and this Shinsuusenju is the same size as Bijuu, Bee would decimate it.

Zetsu's Shinsuusenju's range is much smaller and Bee won't be charging up a Bijuudama while he's a few metres away from it. He's not that stupid.

Zetsu's Shinsuusenju is bigger. . . You can see it dwarfs Hachibi.

Its not durable yet it survived Jinton and attacks amplified with Kurama's Chakra. So no, TBB gets cached by its arms and thrown back resulting to this outcome > [ ] [ ]. Bee becomes powerless, and he either gets pounded by its punches [ ], or Zetsu can take him out using Mokuton branches or absorbs his Chakra.
 

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stops at bee or muu

in full bijuu mode bee is quite mobile; able to intercept juubi dama despite being at a distance

the mini-shinsuusenju cant catch this version of tbb which spreads out

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Couldn't he just mayfly underground to avoid it anyway?
 

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he has to remain on top of shinsuusenju to control it, he wont get enough time after he realizes whats coming

Assuming he uses Shinsuusenju against Bee, ofc.
 

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Assuming he uses Shinsuusenju against Bee, ofc.

he will use it if he wants to last 10 seconds

killer bee has ways to force the zetsu out of the ground

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or he will simply blow up the surroundings with tbbs

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either way killer bee wins
 

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Doesn't get past Kisame. Not a chance.
 

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he has to remain on top of shinsuusenju to control it, he wont get enough time after he realizes whats coming
Proof/Evidence?


he will use it if he wants to last 10 seconds

killer bee has ways to force the zetsu out of the ground

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or he will simply blow up the surroundings with tbbs

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either way killer bee wins

Bee's not taking Zetsu out of the ground.
 
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