Who imrpoved faster naruto or le sauce overall

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right in the beginning naruto was a lot worse than sasuke was.. and gradually after becoming a genin naruto's growth improved a lot

sasuke was even annoyed at the fact with how fast naruto was progressing that it looked as if sasuke wasnt - these are kakashi's own words

they both progressed a lot but in total i would say naruto improved faster overall especially since he was behind in the beginning
 

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add toad summon for part one naruto and snake/hawk summn for sasuke in part 2

I'll add toad summons for Naruto.

Not giving Sasuke snake summons, we didn't see him actually train with them, earn their respect or at least see him sign the contract.

Manda was just controlled via sharingan and random slave snake Aoda came out of no where, same with the Hawks, they haven't even talked yet.
 

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I'll answer this objectively

here is a list of sasuke's improvements: in part one, his skills improved marginally but his only noteworthy boosts were 1)Sharingan activation, 2)two-tomoe sharingan activation, 3) Curse mark 4) Speed boost during chunin exams/ learning chidori, 5) 3 tomoe sharingan 6) CS2 activation.


naruto's part one improvements are as follows: Firstly he started MUCH lower in skill than sasuke. his first giant improvement was the use of the multi shadow clone jutsu. Some people disagree, but i think this brought him instantly to be able to fight with sasuke (remember him tying up sasuke in episode 3). He then improved a bit by learning to walk up trees. As we saw, him and sasuke were equally as proficient at that. Naruto's next big power was entering the initial jinchuriki state (the form he took against haku, and then again against orochimaru in the forest). naruto didn't have a giant raise in power until he had his five pronged seal removed and learned to walk on water proficiently. Then he learned to control some of his chakra and use the summoning jutsu. Honestly, at this point, naruto would destroy sasuke (as we saw how much better naruto fared against gaara than sasuke). Then naruto learned the rasengan. His final upgrade was awakening the 1 tailed shroud in the battle against sasuke in CS2. In that form, naruto and sasuke are around equals, but if you take away those, naruto should have dominated sasuke with gamabunta. So in part one, naruto increased the most.

Time skip:

In the time skip, sasuke clearly increased more. he used drugs etc to increase his physical ability and skillset substantially. naruto too grew some, but not to the same degree. It is at this point that sasuke learned kirin and all of his chidori variants. he also was capable of performing the summoning. However if you're taking into account them in powered up states: naruto grew the most. Sasuke's CS2 state didn't noticeably change, but naruto was able to go into the 3 and 4 tails cloak (although not at will).

Sasuke doesn't receive a power up again until sasuke learned to use the mangekyou sharingan (and lost his curse mark). Naruto around the same time completed the futon rasenshuriken, and achieved perfect sage mode. in my opinion, this is naruto's greatest accomplishment. All of naruto's shortcomings stem from poor skill level and low maturity. Achieving this form made him top tier in basic ninja arts, but also have potentially limitless chakra. He also made it all the way to 6th, and then 8th tails form. Naruto at this point is stronger than sasuke (as admitted by black/white zetsu who is known specifically for being able to tell a person's capabilities). Sasuke's next powerup is his ability to use susano'o, but it greatly weakens him. naruto learns to master the kyubi's chakra and becomes almost unstoppable. He's the fastest ninja in the world, and has chakra exceeding nagato's own in volume.

Naruto again gets a huge boost by achieving bijuu mode form. In this form, he is able to turn into kurama and share copious amounts of chakra with anyone he wants. He also has the bijuu bomb in his arsenal now, and even greater speed.

Sasuke achieves ems, which as of yet has only showed him able to use ms techniques without becoming heavily fatigued. He also has legs on his susano'o now.

Naruto then mixes his sage mode with his kyubi mode and becomes bijuu sage mode. In this form, he can actually use sage jutsu techniues on a kurama level (such as sage mode tbb and kurama rasengan).

Naruto is clearly the one who's grown the most
 
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Le Sauce for sure....Naruto has learned and improved rasengan, his chakra, and.....uhh friendships o_O?

That's literally nothing.

Sage mode doesn't count its not really an improvement.
Curse mark for sasuke is though...he's had it since part 1 and took control of even Orochi's curse mark u-u


Naruto:
Has a lot of RASENGAN jutsu.
Shadow clones....stole it from Hashirama's scroll. Yeah I guess you can say he improved it.
Chakra....Naruto can handle big chakra only because he's an Uzumaki of course.
Friendship...the fox and maybe sasuke (doubt it).
Summoning....I guess, I mean he didn't summon the right toad in KCM so I don't think it counts but oh well.
Naruto and the fox...well I guess that goes into friendship...that's it :|


Sasuke:
Chidori....mastered his chidori in part 1 from 2 to three....wayyyy faster than Kakashi did. He also has a lot of variations.
Curse mark...sasuke has mastered curse mark in part 1 and has a better compatiablity with senjutsu than Orochimaru.
Sharingan....Sasuke grew up knowing nothing about his lost power and got his 3 tomoe faster than Obito which was around so many Uchiha.
Summoning...Sasuke knew nothing about summoning and now he has more than 1 which you're suppose to only have one.
Susanoo....sasuke susanoo has improved more than even Madara's. Keep in mind sasuke is 17 and Madara is over a thousand years old...Sasuke already has perfect susanoo.
Speed....Sasuke speed was pronounced godlike.
 
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OT:Sasuke has, Naruto only recently made it to his level in terms of damage output and survivability.

Well have we seen "Itachi's" power?

No....invalid.

Rasengan doesn't even really count because its basically a TBB which came from the fox which doesn't count either.
 

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Well have we seen "Itachi's" power?

No....invalid.

Rasengan doesn't even really count because its basically a TBB which came from the fox which doesn't count either.

As you can see sasuke out his own mouth says he can feel itachi's power making him stronger, so obviously you know jack shit.
 

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people aren't getting this. theres no "this doesn't count because he didn't improve it" or stuff like that. its who improved the most. naruto started out weaker than sasuke, and now is stronger. That means on average, he improved more and at a faster rate than sasuke. I don't think i'm being incorrect in saying that current naruto is stronger than current sasuke correct? And naruto started weaker. Thats the most growth
 

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people aren't getting this. theres no "this doesn't count because he didn't improve it" or stuff like that. its who improved the most. naruto started out weaker than sasuke, and now is stronger. That means on average, he improved more and at a faster rate than sasuke. I don't think i'm being incorrect in saying that current naruto is stronger than current sasuke correct? And naruto started weaker. Thats the most growth

Pay no attention to Minato the yellow flash, he's just a biased fap boy who doesn't even know how half of the stuff in the manga works, what kind of dumbass would say SM doesn't count for Nardo, yet turns around and says curse mark counts for sasuke when Sasuke was given the curse mark while Naruto mastered SM even better than Jiraiya did?
 

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Le Sauce for sure....Naruto has learned and improved rasengan, his chakra, and.....uhh friendships o_O?

That's literally nothing.

Sage mode doesn't count its not really an improvement.
Curse mark for sasuke is though...he's had it since part 1 and took control of even Orochi's curse mark u-u


Naruto:
Has a lot of RASENGAN jutsu.
Shadow clones....stole it from Hashirama's scroll. Yeah I guess you can say he improved it.
Chakra....Naruto can handle big chakra only because he's an Uzumaki of course.
Friendship...the fox and maybe sasuke (doubt it).
Summoning....I guess, I mean he didn't summon the right toad in KCM so I don't think it counts but oh well.
Naruto and the fox...well I guess that goes into friendship...that's it :|


Sasuke:
Chidori....mastered his chidori in part 1 from 2 to three....wayyyy faster than Kakashi did. He also has a lot of variations.
Curse mark...sasuke has mastered curse mark in part 1 and has a better compatiablity with senjutsu than Orochimaru.
Sharingan....Sasuke grew up knowing nothing about his lost power and got his 3 tomoe faster than Obito which was around so many Uchiha.
Summoning...Sasuke knew nothing about summoning and now he has more than 1 which you're suppose to only have one.
Susanoo....sasuke susanoo has improved more than even Madara's. Keep in mind sasuke is 17 and Madara is over a thousand years old...Sasuke already has perfect susanoo.
Speed....Sasuke speed was pronounced godlike.
does it make you feel better to just get up and hate on a fictional character like that honestly? because all you do is talk a whole lot of shit on a daily basis.
 

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At first I was like Naruto, bu then I realized almost all his strength came just barely b4 the war arc, so I'll have to go with Sasuke for the constant improvement.
 
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does it make you feel better to just get up and hate on a fictional character like that honestly? because all you do is talk a whole lot of shit on a daily basis.

Talk sh!t about a fake character or retarded people?

What makes more sense to do? Everyone on here talks sh!t...
Be specific....retarded people.

Especially the ones who think they know Minato xD
 
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As you can see sasuke out his own mouth says he can feel itachi's power making him stronger, so obviously you know jack shit.

WHAT POWER YOU RETARD!? He says that in general....and there's no proof of Itachi's power being show..

He's @ss at genjutsu, his susanoo is already superior, and that's all Itachi had besides aids.
 

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It's been a while since I seen Sasuke get wrecked.. He improved a little.

But if we are talking about from the very start to now? Yeah.. Naruto wins in this. He went from being absolutely nothing into being one of strongest in the village.

Sasuke improved as well but just not as much as Naruto did to tell the truth.
 

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Same as title who improved through the story faster overall. Ik in last 100-200 its naruto. What about overall the story. I think le sauce as he was ahead of naruto more times , but we can't be sure cause of naruto never going truly serious. Same for le sauce he never really went serious serious.
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............. I said overall through the story who was stronger more often and was improving faster is what I meant. Sorry my title was inaccurate.

I would say Naruto. Sasuke was ahead of Naruto at first but Naruto passed him after learning better chakra control via walking on water, learning summoning jutsu, learning to access a small portion of Kurama's chakra and learning the rasengan which took Minato 3 years to master, in a little over a month. Sasuke even felt like he wasn't improving compared to Naruto so that, along with seeing Itachi, cause him to leave Konoha. At the end of part 1 Sasuke had to take a pill which not only gave him CM level 2 but also increased his based Stats, just to fight Naruto in VoTE .

When we first saw Sasuke, we learned by the greatest medic ninja in the world, Tsunade, that Sasuke's growth was not normal and most likely used drugs or forbidden jutsus during his training . Naruto used 200 clones during his training to learn FRS which surprised Kakashi at the rate Naruto was learning at. Plus training to learn SM.

Both improved fast regardless but I'm more impressived at Naruto's. It was all hard work. He improved his taijutsus, chakra reserves, power, speed with using clones, how to control up to 3 tails mode, how to dispel genjutsus, better at summoning jutsus all with Jiraiya. He equaled to or surpassed Kakashi when learned FRS (at about 50%). Then he got even stronger after mastering FRS to 100%, learning SM, all SM jutsus to an extent.
 

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Naruto was weaker than sasuke in part 1 and now is equal if not greater than him in power. So Naruto obviously improved way faster than sasuke
 

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WHAT POWER YOU RETARD!? He says that in general....and there's no proof of Itachi's power being show..

He's @ss at genjutsu, his susanoo is already superior, and that's all Itachi had besides aids.

The fact that I have to answer this proves you are retarded and don't know anything about Naruto the manga in general, all you do is dickride your favorites and hate, get outta here
 

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naruto

sasuke was always skilled got better but compared naruto who improved by leaps and bounds it was nothing
 

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Sasuke. Naruto was given everything, then when he lost it he resorted back to the fodder that he is.

You are a really funny person. Naruto given everything? Sorry mate, Sasuke was the one with the sugar daddies giving him all his powerups.
 
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