[Discussion] Ohnoki top ten?

[Ziba27]

I didn't really see any clones using the Perfect Susano'o or the Susano'o with four arms, they all used a smaller and weaker version of it. They were like giant statues with huge swords, that was all they had. Brute strength and decent defense.

They looked like the complete susano'o Sasuke showed(pre-curse mark) against jubito to me. That version only had a sword as well, unless you're saying v2 susano'o > complete susano'o?

 

[Shinato]

They looked like the complete susano'o Sasuke showed(pre-curse mark) against jubito to me. That version only had a sword as well, unless you're saying v2 susano'o > complete susano'o?

The Susano'o which Sasuke used against Juubito by himself was a un-focused/un-sustained Perfect Susano'o. Alike Madara's before he sustained and focused the chakra in it, only smaller. It later became the full size and sustained Susano'o once it merged with Kurama, however it is not known if he is able to use the perfect Susano'o without merging with Kurama. Also, if my memory don't escape me, then it also had a shield and most likely its bow.

 

[UniversalPain]

I'm not exactly sure about this. We haven't seen Ohnoki go one on one against any shinobi. In my opinion that is the standards to hold a top ten shinobi to. Who can he solo? In terms of having en elite team of shinobi, Ohnoki would def be on that list.

 

[Ziba27]

because tsunade has more and stronger chakra, don't forget that powerful chakra allows you to use more powerful jutsus.

That is likely to be true(we can't say who has stronger/more chakra, we can only assume), but its his own jutsu though. saying he can't use his own jutsu without someone's help makes no sense to me, we don't know how strong it is when his tank is full.

 

[flyboyissac]

Ohnoki dismantal those b****es he's my top ten

 

[Ziba27]

A person such as Sasuke has great speed, and can easily move over great distances. Madara was able to dodge it, and I highly doubt that Madara is any faster than Sasuke. ( Stronger, yes, smarter, perhaps, faster no. He may be equal in speed though )

Sasuke already lost to Jinton and got saved by obito, if he traps in the cube then you are done for unless you are a S/T specialist which is only 4 in NV.

Jinton has two(that i can remember) variants: The one that traps you which works within a certain volume and the one that's a beam which is more like a biju stream

The Susano'o which Sasuke used against Juubito by himself was a un-focused/un-sustained Perfect Susano'o. Alike Madara's before he sustained and focused the chakra in it, only smaller. It later became the full size and sustained Susano'o once it merged with Kurama, however it is not known if he is able to use the perfect Susano'o without merging with Kurama. Also, if my memory don't escape me, then it also had a shield and most likely its bow.

What? Complete susano'o is the 25 Madara showed and one Sasuke showed and infused curse mark into. it is fully formed (with legs that's why it's called complete) PS(on its own) has only been shown by Madara

I'm not exactly sure about this. We haven't seen Ohnoki go one on one against any shinobi. In my opinion that is the standards to hold a top ten shinobi to. Who can he solo? In terms of having en elite team of shinobi, Ohnoki would def be on that list.

I get that but based on feats(we won't see him 1v1 most likely), what do you think?

 

[Shinato]

What? Complete susano'o is the 25 Madara showed and one Sasuke showed and infused curse mark into. it is fully formed (with legs that's why it's called complete) PS(on its own) has only been shown by Madara

So you are saying that Sasuke only has 1/25 of Edo Madara's chakra resources? As that is what you seem to be trying to point out, which is also highly unlikely. I would say that Sasuke has about 1/5 of Edo Madara's chakra.

 

[thepizzaguy]

Well he is still alive for a reason. Gota hand it to the old man. I'd say prime onooki is in the ranks of 3rd raikage, tobirama,any mizukage and some more and should not be underestimated.

 

[Ziba27]

So you are saying that Sasuke only has 1/25 of Edo Madara's chakra resources? As that is what you seem to be trying to point out, which is also highly unlikely. I would say that Sasuke has about 1/5 of Edo Madara's chakra.

I'm not suggesting anything just stating number of susano'o each created, and NO sasuke is 1/99999... Of Edo Madara's chakra coz its unlimited...

But for real though I can't say how he compares to edo or living Madara coz he also has Hashi's chakra as well

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Onoki IS hugely underrated sure but I really can't see his prime being much better than he is now, take away the back pain obviously he seems to be a character strengthened by his experience.

He's close to top 10 but Muu deserves it more.

 

[Shinato]

I'm not suggesting anything just stating number of susano'o each created, and NO sasuke is 1/99999... Of Edo Madara's chakra coz its unlimited...

But for real though I can't say how he compares to edo or living Madara coz he also has Hashi's chakra as well

I was not talking about about chakra in general, I was talking about the amount is able to use all at once. An Edo doesn't receive and unlimited amount of chakra, they gain an instant refill to what they already have. They still have the same amount of chakra as they did when they where alive, only that they will never run out of it. Sasuke may not have the same amount as Madara, though he is fairly close.

 

[Shinato]

Onoki IS hugely underrated sure but I really can't see his prime being much better than he is now, take away the back pain obviously he seems to be a character strengthened by his experience.

He's close to top 10 but Muu deserves it more.

That is also true, the reason he was able to stand up against Madara and the reason he was able to strive for something was because of his age and experience. He even mentioned that himself, and I believe that Madara commented on it as well.

 

[UniversalPain]

Based on his feats that we've seen, yes I would say he is top ten. Who else has been able to partially stop a huge meteor then tank a direct hit from another?

 

[Sakuradasoloqueen]

Ohnoki>BM Naruto? Really? He is just a fodder compared to BM Naruto.

BM naruto stomps that fodder in 3-5 seconds.