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So today, technically yesterday, was Martin Luther King Jr. Day and I didn't see ONE thread in honor of his impact on American history or celebration for what he accomplished for the PEOPLE of America. Instead, I see Kanye post, etc and no acknowledgement of one of the greatest figures in history. NB is full is morons i swear.

Sorry for not living in the US. :(
 

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I don't...You must be a new breed of idiot, one that evolved and has learned the art of typing. I'm going to bed. Enough of this silliness for me.

Im with this...This thread was the biggest oxymoron ever.

complains no one pays respects or remembers what dr kings stands for.....calls people morons because of it.


yeah dr king is real proud bro lmao

goodnight NB


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I forgot, I don't usually work Mondays anyway, and I have never done anything special on that day in 23 years. Call me ignorant if you want, but it just isn't that important to me. I don't celebrate for any other person so there's no need for me to make an exception or be called ignorant over this one. Yes, he did great things, but so did thousands of other people. I remember history and I've learned from it, but I don't need to prove it on a specific day. :|

Side note: I would think he would facepalm over the fact that you were upset that no one posted a thread about him. It is more about what he did, not honoring HIM. What have you done over the past year or more to further the cause? Have YOU consistently attended meanings, participated in similar activities, or contributed in any other way? If not, then you are no better then the rest of the people you condemn. History means nothing if you remember it, but don't learn from it, or don't do anything to make things better within your own capacity. I'm sure a thread on an international anime forum would really make him proud and would prove to him that you have great respect for all of the people who fought for civil rights in the United States. Great job. You did your good deed for U.S. civil rights...

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I forgot, I don't usually work Mondays anyway, and I have never done anything special on that day in 23 years. Call me ignorant if you want, but it just isn't that important to me. I don't celebrate for any other person so there's no need for me to make an exception or be called ignorant over this one. Yes, he did great things, but so did thousands of other people. I remember history and I've learned from it, but I don't need to prove it on a specific day. :|

Side note: I would think he would facepalm over the fact that you were upset that no one posted a thread about him. It is more about what he did, not honoring HIM. What have you done over the past year or more to further the cause? Have YOU consistently attended meanings, participated in similar activities, or contributed in any other way? If not, then you are no better then the rest of the people you condemn. History means nothing if you remember it, but don't learn from it, or do anything to make things better within your own capacity.

Enjoy your week

YEs, it is about what eh did, many are NOT aware of what he's done. Obviously the would a purpose of hsi thread. We all know we have a day off in honor of him, but most dont know what he did or how he did this. Learning from it comes with being aware of it in the first place.
 

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YEs, it is about what eh did, many are NOT aware of what he's done. Obviously the would a purpose of hsi thread. We all know we have a day off in honor of him, but most dont know what he did or how he did this. Learning from it comes with being aware of it in the first place.

Well no one on here needs to prove they know what he did or why he did it by posting a thread. That is the point. Just because no one posted a thread, does not mean everyone is ignorant. You didn't post one yourself and also life goes on no matter what day it is. But anyway, you are free to post about it and talk about it so I won't argue the matter any further. Just understand, it's kind of hypocritical to call out the base as ignorant over something like this so you will probably get more of a negative response than a positive one due to how you approached this...
 

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Well no one on here needs to prove they know what he did or why he did it by posting a thread. That is the point. Just because no one posted a thread, does not mean everyone is ignorant. You didn't post one yourself and also life goes on no matter what day it is. But anyway, you are free to post about it and talk about it so I won't argue the matter any further. Just understand, it's kind of hypocritical to call out the base as ignorant over something like this so you will probably get more of a negative response than a positive one due to how you approached this...

If you feel that way than there is no need for those individuals to post. Ignorance=uneducated=unaware. Many have stated they werent even aware until the obvious cancellations of work and school. I explained why I hadnt posted one, you should have read the entire thread and you would have known that.

If my approach was that negative the mob would have deleted that thread, it's the ability to read between the lines. Obviously he knew what I meant in stating ignorance to an extent.
 

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So today, technically yesterday, was Martin Luther King Jr. Day and I didn't see ONE thread in honor of his impact on American history or celebration for what he accomplished for the PEOPLE of America. Instead, I see Kanye post, etc and no acknowledgement of one of the greatest figures in history. NB is full is morons i swear.

Simply because I like being the voice of dissent:

For starters - the era that King grew up in was a product of northern labor unions inflaming the race issue as black laborers began undercutting the prices of Unions in northern states.

This was the primary cause of racial tensions through the 50s - which was later inflamed further when government injected itself into the issue. Not only was the country suffering from previous distinctions ('separate but equal') - a product of government - but the government now undertook efforts such as 'bussing' and affirmative action - whereby integration was forced.

This -radically- inflamed the issue.

Through the 40s and much of the 50s, even in the South, there was little in the way of tension between blacks and whites - even in the South. There existed bigotry and unfair standards - sure - but there was not nearly the tension and the attitudes of many young adults had already changed to disregard racism.

After the labor unions began inflaming the issue and government began imposing its solutions - the whole mess exploded. People who paid little mind to the growing influence of the black population and had little problem with it suddenly came under the perception that blacks were using the government (the law) to obtain privileges. True, founded, or not - this was the perception. In the South, particularly (where black populations were a larger portion of the population), there was a reflexive 'self protection' taken by many groups that tried to shut down these privileges and prevent Blacks from 'taking over' the government by hijacking the legal system.

Of course - this was not the goal. Most of the civil rights movement was composed of Whites. Most of the politicians fighting fiercely for forced integration and other intrusive policies were White (or one of the races we brand as being 'white.' I'm German or Cherokee native - depending upon how hot it is outside and how much red shows... Try calling a Serb and Croat the same thing some time. Austrians also love to be called Germans - Try it out).

Race rapidly became a political tool because civil rights were popular. The politicians beat their drums and ballyhooed about legislature to rile up the voters... when the reality was that the overwhelming majority of people were not opposed to equal rights in the first place.

If there was anything that people were opposed to - it was the over-reaction of the government and the media.

The years following the civil rights era and the politicians that rode the wave in writing legislation that would later destroy the Black community. Subsidized living, food stamps, Equal Opportunity. All of these, in the long run, have demonstrated to be horribly destructive to the core family of the Black community - shattering it beyond recognition.

And it's created a very reliable group of voters who will never vote to have their subsidized living reduced/revoked, and who are easily distinguished amongst the medley of ethnic blends in America. Race is a political tool these days. Nothing more, nothing less.

As far as I'm concerned - the less we discuss it, the better.

The ironic (and somewhat sad) part of it is that once Martin Luther King's dream comes true - his speeches and significance will be necessarily forgotten.

That said - Martin Luther King was not the harbinger of change - merely the voice of a change that had been going on in America since long before he was a twinkle in his father's eye.

It is simply convenient to teach history in a way that shows government as the savior of a malign, backward people.

You will find that is par for the course for most of the 'reforms' made from 1900 onward. We are taught that these were gifts from an enlightened government faculty upon an ignorant American populous who was successfully converted at gunpoint to embrace wisdom.

It's a subtle shift in the teaching of history, but a fatal one. Our country is already aflame and went off the cliff about five years ago. Since then, our destination has been inevitable. The ground, much like Winter, is coming.

But - Allow Thomas Sowell to do a little bit of explaining on my behalf:



 

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So today, technically yesterday, was Martin Luther King Jr. Day and I didn't see ONE thread in honor of his impact on American history or celebration for what he accomplished for the PEOPLE of America. Instead, I see Kanye post, etc and no acknowledgement of one of the greatest figures in history. NB is full is morons i swear.

I didnt make a thread because i dont give a shit. "Oh im ignorant" No i dont give a fukk what he did, we got alot more fukking problems then to remember what someone did. And for you making this you are an ignorant fukk. Why dont i see threads about why our country is going to shit, or remember all who have died for this country.

Fukking hypocrisy

Edit: and who in the flying fukk comes onto a NARUTO WEBSITE to discuss this shit? you perhaps?
 
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Simply because I like being the voice of dissent:

For starters - the era that King grew up in was a product of northern labor unions inflaming the race issue as black laborers began undercutting the prices of Unions in northern states.

This was the primary cause of racial tensions through the 50s - which was later inflamed further when government injected itself into the issue. Not only was the country suffering from previous distinctions ('separate but equal') - a product of government - but the government now undertook efforts such as 'bussing' and affirmative action - whereby integration was forced.

This -radically- inflamed the issue.

Through the 40s and much of the 50s, even in the South, there was little in the way of tension between blacks and whites - even in the South. There existed bigotry and unfair standards - sure - but there was not nearly the tension and the attitudes of many young adults had already changed to disregard racism.

After the labor unions began inflaming the issue and government began imposing its solutions - the whole mess exploded. People who paid little mind to the growing influence of the black population and had little problem with it suddenly came under the perception that blacks were using the government (the law) to obtain privileges. True, founded, or not - this was the perception. In the South, particularly (where black populations were a larger portion of the population), there was a reflexive 'self protection' taken by many groups that tried to shut down these privileges and prevent Blacks from 'taking over' the government by hijacking the legal system.

Of course - this was not the goal. Most of the civil rights movement was composed of Whites. Most of the politicians fighting fiercely for forced integration and other intrusive policies were White (or one of the races we brand as being 'white.' I'm German or Cherokee native - depending upon how hot it is outside and how much red shows... Try calling a Serb and Croat the same thing some time. Austrians also love to be called Germans - Try it out).

Race rapidly became a political tool because civil rights were popular. The politicians beat their drums and ballyhooed about legislature to rile up the voters... when the reality was that the overwhelming majority of people were not opposed to equal rights in the first place.

If there was anything that people were opposed to - it was the over-reaction of the government and the media.

The years following the civil rights era and the politicians that rode the wave in writing legislation that would later destroy the Black community. Subsidized living, food stamps, Equal Opportunity. All of these, in the long run, have demonstrated to be horribly destructive to the core family of the Black community - shattering it beyond recognition.

And it's created a very reliable group of voters who will never vote to have their subsidized living reduced/revoked, and who are easily distinguished amongst the medley of ethnic blends in America. Race is a political tool these days. Nothing more, nothing less.

As far as I'm concerned - the less we discuss it, the better.

The ironic (and somewhat sad) part of it is that once Martin Luther King's dream comes true - his speeches and significance will be necessarily forgotten.

That said - Martin Luther King was not the harbinger of change - merely the voice of a change that had been going on in America since long before he was a twinkle in his father's eye.

It is simply convenient to teach history in a way that shows government as the savior of a malign, backward people.

You will find that is par for the course for most of the 'reforms' made from 1900 onward. We are taught that these were gifts from an enlightened government faculty upon an ignorant American populous who was successfully converted at gunpoint to embrace wisdom.

It's a subtle shift in the teaching of history, but a fatal one. Our country is already aflame and went off the cliff about five years ago. Since then, our destination has been inevitable. The ground, much like Winter, is coming.

But - Allow Thomas Sowell to do a little bit of explaining on my behalf:




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I don't live in America so idk when that holiday is.
 

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People don't have to address it. It's not demanded. It's not ignorant. MLK was great and helped a massive event in history. That's awesome. People got to live a normal life because of him. He also for a day for it. Everything will survive without a forum thread. Maybe people forgot. Maybe people weren't online today. Maybe people are lazy and didn't care. Eithe way, doesn't change his impact on the world. Ask anyone on the base who he is. I imagine most know and in all seriousness, respect the guy's actions. They tip their hat to the man, but they have the freedom to not post a thread. It's no big deal. Don't harp on everyone. Don't call them ignorant or uneducated. Instead, focus on MLK. Don't belittle. Instead, inspire. Make that thread and highlight MLK without downing others for not doing so. Not everyone is ignorant here because they didn't mention a holiday. People are living their lives. It's nice to give thanks to those who paved the way, but it's not ignorant to focus on the here and now, in a world where MLK's message was heard.

I'm not saying you're right or wrong. You feel strong about a good thing, but calling people ignorant and morons were uncalled for. I knew it was MLK day and I know he did a good thing. It doesn't make me ignorant to not post it on a forum.
 

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Malcolm X should have a holiday
 

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Many people know who Martin Luther King is and what he did because indeed he is a historical figure and we've all studied about him at some point... But as Asami said, not everyone lives in America and don't know what day it is or even celebrate it. Coming here and generalising people as morons doesn't make you a better person... you say unaware. The only thing most of us are "guilty" of is not knowing what day it's celebrated
 
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Such ignorance, here, such arrogance there ~_~

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