Naruto no kurama > Sasuke with no sharingan little diff right?

[EternalFlame]

Removing Sharingan as a whole for Sasuke while letting Naruto keep SM is unfair.

EMS was given to Sasuke
Kurama was given to Naruto

So it's SM Naruto VS MS Sasuke

 

[take it easy]

Removing Sharingan as a whole for Sasuke while letting Naruto keep SM is unfair.

EMS was given to Sasuke
Kurama was given to Naruto

So it's SM Naruto VS MS Sasuke

all ms jutsu result of itachi care.

 

[Vicen]

all ms jutsu result of itachi care.

Even without MS Sasuke still solos. Academy Sasuke > Rikoudo.

 

[Fuzzy Panda]

Being completely objective..SM Naruto would destroy Sasuke without his sharingan. Haha

 

[Umari Senju]

Removing Sharingan as a whole for Sasuke while letting Naruto keep SM is unfair.

EMS was given to Sasuke
Kurama was given to Naruto

So it's SM Naruto VS MS Sasuke

Sasuke's Sahringan=Naruto's Kurama. I am not stating they are one in the same. i am saying both ninja rely heavily on the aforementioned external sources of powers. It does not matter if one is given due to lineage or one revieved it after birth. You take both of those away from the 2 AFTER everything they have learned up to this point and Sasuke falls flat. Now if we were talking Hebi Sasuke then he would have Curse Mark to even the odds. but as the OP state we are taking away their turmp cards (the Sharingan and Kurama) meaning the 2 as they are now without those powerups.

Fair or not is not the issue here. this isn't a fair fight scenario. This is a who would be stonger if you took their greatest tools away.

The answer is Naruto because of Sage Mode. Kurama did not teach Naruto Sage Mode. Just as Sasuke did not have to learn the Curse Mark. Since we are not talking Hebi Sasuke then Sasuke losses that doesn't mean he is weak, or a fodder. He just doesn't compare without his Sharingan to fall on.

Naruto has Sage mode to fall on so he wins. Why is this so hard to accept.

If Naruto didn't have Sage Mode or if Sasuke had Curse Mark still then it would be a much different story.

 

[Helikido]

Uzumaki are born with huge chakra pool and endurance.

Uchiha are born with high quality chakra and their eyes.

You took away sasukes blood line limit and left narutos blood line limit. Without narutos blood line limit, he wouldn't be able to use SM.

It should be base naruto (No kurama, SM) vs Base sasuke (No MS, EMS).

Who would win? Lets just say sasuke, since he almost killed kakashi and naruto BLIND.

 

[take it easy]

Uzumaki are born with huge chakra pool and endurance.

Uchiha are born with high quality chakra and their eyes.

You took away sasukes blood line limit and left narutos blood line limit. Without narutos blood line limit, he wouldn't be able to use SM.

It should be base naruto (No kurama, SM) vs Base sasuke (No MS, EMS).

Who would win? Lets just say sasuke, since he almost killed kakashi and naruto BLIND.

almost killing naruto? lol

 

[Punk Hazard]

Sasuke's Sahringan=Naruto's Kurama. I am not stating they are one in the same. i am saying both ninja rely heavily on the aforementioned external sources of powers. It does not matter if one is given due to lineage or one revieved it after birth. You take both of those away from the 2 AFTER everything they have learned up to this point and Sasuke falls flat. Now if we were talking Hebi Sasuke then he would have Curse Mark to even the odds. but as the OP state we are taking away their turmp cards (the Sharingan and Kurama) meaning the 2 as they are now without those powerups.

Fair or not is not the issue here. this isn't a fair fight scenario. This is a who would be stonger if you took their greatest tools away.

The answer is Naruto because of Sage Mode. Kurama did not teach Naruto Sage Mode. Just as Sasuke did not have to learn the Curse Mark. Since we are not talking Hebi Sasuke then Sasuke losses that doesn't mean he is weak, or a fodder. He just doesn't compare without his Sharingan to fall on.

Naruto has Sage mode to fall on so he wins. Why is this so hard to accept.

If Naruto didn't have Sage Mode or if Sasuke had Curse Mark still then it would be a much different story.

Just wanted to point out that Sharingan isn't an external power.

 

[Helikido]

almost killing naruto? lol

He would have killed him if he wouldn't have soloed the 5 kage, killed danzo, and almost killed kakshi in one day.

 

[Booker]

Nope. Remove large chakra pool, there's no SM or Kurama. Sasuke wins that fight.

Why wouldn't Naruto be able to use SM without a large chakra pool?

 

[-Spoiler-]

He would have killed him if he wouldn't have soloed the 5 kage, killed danzo, and almost killed kakshi in one day.

you mean got owned hard by five kages.

 

[Huzaifa]

Ok as I had to go somewhere I could not respond. Guys I am trying to make a point to the naruto haters and sasuke wankers. That what the **** is going on with these double standards. Naruto is still something without kurama. His chackra is only 4x bigger than kakashis without kurama I believe. Sasuke has more chackra than kakashi also. So pool is irrelevant both have large reserves. Than stamina. Well sasuke still has his powerful chackra. Naruto had most of that part taken away as he does not have any biju power left. So haters gonna hate naruto with no freebies no freebies sauce. People that say I lean to nardo I lean to both of them depending on the thread. Heck I even trolled for sauce with the rinne howk bs.​

Actually not quite. Kurama is, more or less, Uzumaki based. Only Uzumaki's are chosen to be the Jin for Kurama as they posses the stamina to endure him. Maybe the Senju's can as well. But no Senju ever stepped up to being a jin. only Uzumaki's have ever been the 9 tail jin so in a way. Nine tails is their clans inheritance.

Minato is only non uzamacki jin. You can say its a thing passed down in the family lol.

Naruto wouldn't have been any stronger than he is now.(Actually, weaker than he is now) Naruto's loneliness made him stronger because he wanted recognize by others. That's where his strength came from. Other than that, Naruto would have just been a goof ball brat.

Look at Obito, Rin, and Minato - Exactly, what did Minato teach them? Minato isn't strict enough either to push Naruto past his limits. He probably wouldn't teach a Naruto high class jutsu until he matured. Seeing as never taught the Rasengan to Obito, but Kakashi.

Kakashi copied it with his eye lol/​

 

[Kurama999]

Summary.

SO6P had 2 bloodline, and separated it by each son to have 1 bloodline.
One son bloodline was the EYEs and the other was life-force.
Uchiha Sasuke bloodline is the EYE -- Sharingan and others..
Uzumaki Naruto bloodline is the life-force -- strong stamina and large chakra pool.

As for Bijuu, such as Kurama -- is the 'Nnja Tools'.
This is why each Hidden Village using Bijuu as their WEAPON, meaning 'NINJA TOOLS".
That was why Raikage told both Bee & Naruto (on the way to battle); They being as Jinchuriki have not right....

Chidori had nothing to do with sharingan eye.
Chidori = Rasengan
Chidori is Kakashi jutsu.

Sasanoo is the upper level of sharingan.
Amaterasu is also upper level of sharingan.
Then why Sasuke need Itachi Amaterasu...

 

[Seventh Sama]

if you remove sasuke's sharingan, you might as well remove narutp's lifeforce and huge chakra pool :l

 

[Jman1997]

For Naruto it was.



I still hold that Naruto wins.




Kirin is useless to him here. He gets blitzed by SM just like Pein did... Twice.

I see you're a fellow batfan

 

[Huzaifa]

if you remove sasuke's sharingan, you might as well remove narutp's lifeforce and huge chakra pool :l

I think everyone with a brain knows I am not trying to make this a fair fight. I am proving a point for sasuke wankers and naruto haters. That naruto without his largest trump card> sasuke without his largest trump card.​

 

[Avinash012]

Any Naruto > Sasuke without Sharingan.

 

[Huzaifa]

Any Naruto > Sasuke without Sharingan.

You and strata are one of the logical sasuke/uchia fans.

 

[Ovan]

Naruto wins and he can summon his toads.

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

SM Naruto craps on any Sasuke up to EMS.