Naruto no kurama > Sasuke with no sharingan little diff right?

[riley freeman]

EMS isn't a birthright, just saying


OT: Don't know why people do this. There will be haters

He was talking about 3t Sharingan not ems

 

[Solo]

And Naruto didn't go through a ritual?

Oh that bias/.....

He was chosen at random. Minato didn't have to pick Naruto to be Jinchuriki. If Kushina wouldn't have died, would Naruto be the Jinchuriki right now?

 

[Umari Senju]

Hashirama choose where he wanted the jins to be....

Uchiha would have been even more perfect because they would of controlled it no problem and having MS and PS without getting EMS would be as powerful as KCM or maybe BM Naruto.

Also in addition by using summoning jutsu to summon your hawk or snake...that's demi god level right there.

Itachi could have pulled this off at age 15...he was a anbu at age 13.

Not exactly. Mito stepped up to be the 1st 9 tailed Jin. Then Cushina was brought to the village at the end of Mito's life to become the next jin. Hashirama chose nothing in this regard. Even if he chose the Uzumaki Clan as the inheritor of the 9 tails. It means it is still within their clan. doesn't matter who decided it. the fact remains that all 9 tailed Jin have been Uzumaki.

So it is, in essence the same as achieiving the Sharingan. You must go through a ritual and survive it in order to become the Kyuubi Jin. So it wouldn't be surprising that Naruto would have become the Kyuubi Jin regardless of wether or not Obito attacked the village. It probably just would've happened at a later age.

He was chosen at random. Minato didn't have to pick Naruto to be Jinchuriki. If Kushina wouldn't have died, would Naruto be the Jinchuriki right now?

You call it random but Kishi would call it fate. I think Even if Kushina was alive Naruto would still have been the next kyuubi Jin. It just wouldn't have happened at birth. Since Kurama is invariably passed down from Uzumaki to Uzumaki. Also Jins are chosen usually from the family of the Kage. Since Naruto is both an Uzumaki and the son of the 4th, it is safe to assume that regardless of wether Kushina was still alive or not, Naruto would have been the next Kyuubi Jin.

 

[-Spoiler-]

LOL! DF!?

Every Uchiha has awakened or will awaken sharingan.

Everyone goes through emotional chains and that will trigger it....you can't awaken a bijuu...entirely different. Please stop trying to bend that fact.

Base Sasuke > Base Naruto....speed and all...and base isn't sm or sauce gets susanoo which > sm naruto:

Also Naruto only saw that sasuke when he was blind and out of chakra....that sasuke at full health and chakra would destroy SM Naruto based off his own words/Kishi words:

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[Solo]

Not exactly. Mito stepped up to be the 1st 9 tailed Jin. Then Cushina was brought to the village at the end of Mito's life to become the next jin. Hashirama chose nothing in this regard. Even if he chose the Uzumaki Clan as the inheritor of the 9 tails. It means it is still within their clan. doesn't matter who decided it. the fact remains that all 9 tailed Jin have been Uzumaki.

So it is, in essence the same as achieiving the Sharingan. You must go through a ritual and survive it in order to become the Kyuubi Jin. So it wouldn't be surprising that Naruto would have become the Kyuubi Jin regardless of wether or not Obito attacked the village. It probably just would've happened at a later age.

Is Karin a Jin? No. All Uchiha have(or can unlock) the Sharingan.

Kurama isn't a birthright. If you're not chose to be the Jinchuriki, then..

 

[AlastorNazura17]

LOL! DF!?

Every Uchiha has awakened or will awaken sharingan.

Everyone goes through emotional chains and that will trigger it....you can't awaken a bijuu...entirely different. Please stop trying to bend that fact.

Base Sasuke > Base Naruto....speed and all...and base isn't sm or sauce gets susanoo which > sm naruto:

Also Naruto only saw that sasuke when he was blind and out of chakra....that sasuke at full health and chakra would destroy SM Naruto based off his own words/Kishi words:

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Base Naruto >>>> Base Sasuke.

Kage Bunshin + Oodoma Rasengan spam takes this mid diff.

 

[ssjsage]

He was chosen at random. Minato didn't have to pick Naruto to be Jinchuriki. If Kushina wouldn't have died, would Naruto be the Jinchuriki right now?

And how strong do you think a sm naruto trained by jiraiya and minato would be. Naruto would have been hailed as a genius if he was raised by his parents. Naruto would be way strong learning rasengan, uzumaki sealings, Ftg, sage mode and probably a lot more.

 

[Umari Senju]

Is Karin a Jin? No. All Uchiha have(or can unlock) the Sharingan.

Kurama isn't a birthright.

You missed the point. Yes all Uchiha can unlock the Sharingan but it doesn't mean all Uchiha do. In fact more don't then do and they go on their entire lives without it.

Just because every Kyubbi Jin has been an Uzumaki doesn't mean every Uzumaki was a jin. The difference is in the details. Yes Sharingan is hardwired into the Uchiha DNA. but an outside source is still need to activate. just because it is in their DNA doesn't gaurantee you will become a Sharingan user.

What I am trying to point out is the Kurama is much the same as a clan technique or secret exclusive to the Uzumaki clan for reasons I stated earlier. It doesn't matter if they aren't born with it. Only Uzumaki are chosen for it as they have proven they have what it take to contain and use Kurama's chakra. It's as simple as that.

 

[Strata Uchiha]

Sasuke needs his Curse Mark lvl2 again to make the battle with Sage Naruto a sporting contest.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Also, this would make more sense.

Then again, Naruto would still win.

Nope. Remove large chakra pool, there's no SM or Kurama. Sasuke wins that fight.

 

[Solo]

And how strong do you think a sm naruto trained by jiraiya and minato would be. Naruto would have been hailed as a genius if he was raised by his parents. Naruto would be way strong learning rasengan, uzumaki sealings, Ftg, sage mode and probably a lot more.

Naruto wouldn't have been any stronger than he is now.(Actually, weaker than he is now) Naruto's loneliness made him stronger because he wanted recognize by others. That's where his strength came from. Other than that, Naruto would have just been a goof ball brat.

Look at Obito, Rin, and Minato - Exactly, what did Minato teach them? Minato isn't strict enough either to push Naruto past his limits. He probably wouldn't teach a Naruto high class jutsu until he matured. Seeing as never taught the Rasengan to Obito, but Kakashi.

 

[-Spoiler-]

Nope. Remove large chakra pool, there's no SM or Kurama. Sasuke wins that fight.

so shall we remove the uchiha strong chakra as well :yeah:?. why not make it better both of them are from sakura's clan let them fight it out now.

 

[Solo]

You missed the point. Yes all Uchiha can unlock the Sharingan but it doesn't mean all Uchiha do. In fact more don't then do and they go on their entire lives without it.

Just because every Kyubbi Jin has been an Uzumaki doesn't mean every Uzumaki was a jin. The difference is in the details. Yes Sharingan is hardwired into the Uchiha DNA. but an outside source is still need to activate. just because it is in their DNA doesn't gaurantee you will become a Sharingan user.

What I am trying to point out is the Kurama is much the same as a clan technique or secret exclusive to the Uzumaki clan for reasons I stated earlier. It doesn't matter if they aren't born with it. Only Uzumaki are chosen for it as they have proven they have what it take to contain and use Kurama's chakra. It's as simple as that.

Kurama wandered freely until the Hashi vs Madara fight. Kurama doesn't belong to Uzumaki's. He's not a pet nor a clan technique.


When Sasuke use the Sharingan, he represent the Uchiha. When Naruto use the Nine-Tails power, he NOT representing Uzumaki's, but the power of being a Jinchuriki.

 

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Naruto wouldn't have been any stronger than he is now.(Actually, weaker than he is now) Naruto's loneliness made him stronger because he wanted recognize by others. That's where his strength came from. Other than that, Naruto would have just been a goof ball brat.

Look at Obito, Rin, and Minato - Exactly, what did Minato teach them? Minato isn't strict enough either to push Naruto past his limits. He probably wouldn't teach a Naruto high class jutsu until he matured. Seeing as never taught the Rasengan to Obito, but Kakashi.

minato wasnt lonely yet it turned into a strong ninja your logic is incredible flawed. he seal the bijuu into his son without a second thought if that didnt happen right now naruto would have known ftg and all sort of other techniques.

 

[GodOfThunderAndLightning]

Taking away Sharingan isn't comparable to taking Kurama. If you take away Sharingan, it'd make more sense to take away Naruto's strong stamina and large chakra pool.

And still leave him with a infinite source of chakra? lol just kidding Riker

Sasuke was born with the Sharingan. Naruto was not born with Kurama.

Technically he was but hey believe what you want

 

[Punk Hazard]

so shall we remove the uchiha strong chakra as well :yeah:?. why not make it better both of them are from sakura's clan let them fight it out now.

That doesn't make sense. It was never said the Uchiha had a particularly strong chakra. Taking away away what Sasuke has genetically, Sharingan, is equivalent to taking away what Naruto has generically, strong chakra and life force. It just so happens that Naruto needs that huge chakra to have Kurama and Sage Mode.

If we're taking away Kurama, then it's more fair to take away EMS and have Sasuke just have MS.

 

[Punk Hazard]

And still leave him with a infinite source of chakra? lol just kidding Riker



Technically he was but hey believe what you want

No he wasn't. Kurama was an external power placed into him after birth.

Sharingan is something Sasuke had since he was born, he just had to awaken it.

 

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That doesn't make sense. It was never said the Uchiha had a particularly strong chakra. Taking away away what Sasuke has genetically, Sharingan, is equivalent to taking away what Naruto has generically, strong chakra and life force. It just so happens that Naruto needs that huge chakra to have Kurama and Sage Mode.

If we're taking away Kurama, then it's more fair to take away EMS and have Sasuke just have MS.

actually it was said that the uchiha has strong chakra tobirama explained it.

 

[Vicen]

Sasuke can still use Susano'o without sharingan, and he now has Hashirama level chakra. He solos Fodderuto with negative 2 million difficulty. Deal with it.

#DealWIthIt

 

[sharingansennin]

Same as title. Sasuke needs shirangan for chidori. Naruto has sm mode. Sasuke doesn't even have hebi mode now. So why do people hate on naruto so much for using kuramas power. Sasuke is more dependent on his clans power.
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Like if those two can't use any of the powers related to those two respective things is what I meant guys. Oh yeah le sauce ain't blind ​

you fool Uzumaki(high chakra reserves, durability) = Uchiha(sharingan) nobody ever freaking acts like naruto being an uzumaki and sasuke being an uchiha are equal when they ARE. Naruto's gifted power of being an uzumaki is the same as sasuke being an uchiha, kurama is an outside factor and you're being an idiot for being a narutard