Izanami won't work on Madara

[jariaya]

im sure this is one of the greatest thread of 2014

 

[TheSageOfNinetails]

Are you suggesting he should train to do it ? in that case its impossible cause 1 use = 1 eye

No, I don't think he should use it ( if he even can ).

I'm just saying that people think because he saw Itachi do it, that he can do it right away.

 

[Ahmed1993]

No, I don't think he should use it ( if he even can ).

I'm just saying that people think because he saw Itachi do it, that he can do it right away.

Izanami and Izanagi needs theoretical knowledge about the Jutsu so that the user can do it , and Sasuke got an explanation and a demonstration about Izanami

Also he knows the seals of Izanagi :

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[Zebstrika]

Ever since this last chapter, there has been thread after thread, theory after theory of people saying Sasuke will use Izanami on Madara to end the fight.

But, Izanami will NOT work on Madara.

The only time we have seen Izanami (canon, not filler) is with Itachi and Kabuto.

Kabuto couldn't accept the reality that Itachi had beaten him, because he thought himself to be the "perfect shinobi", after absorbing so many abilities and perfecting his DSM.

Itachi even said once Kabuto accepts the reality of the situation, he would be free from Izanami.

And that's just it, Madara has already accepted this reality, he only wishes to change it.

Madara doesn't have an inflated ego like Kabuto, he's not prancing around the battlefield yelling "no one can beat me hurr durr" like Kabuto was.

Once Madara vowed to change the very fabric of reality, he also accepted it, as hell. Once he accepted how bad the reality he lived in was, he wanted to change it.

Izanami won't work on someone who has accepted reality already.

That's the whole point of the jutsu, because those who could use Izanagi thought themselves unbeatable, when in REALITY, they were beatable.

So all you Sasuke fanboys need to get your heads out of your a** and accept this reality, Izanami will not work on Madara.

The sentence in bold doesn't even make sense. If he has accepted reality, there wouldn't be any need to change it.

 

[TheSageOfNinetails]

The sentence in bold doesn't even make sense. If he has accepted reality, there wouldn't be any need to change it.

If you keep reading, it says he has accepted this reality as hell.

Which is why he wants to changes.

 

[altaire uchiha]

Its foolish to talk about what would kill him and what wont. Madara is protected by plot, and when Kishi decides to get Madara out of the way a rasengan will be enough, it doesnt matter, Kishi has to want him dead, thats it, you guys talk as if this book is real or real tactics and physics apply to it somehow.

 

[Sarahmint]

Ever since this last chapter, there has been thread after thread, theory after theory of people saying Sasuke will use Izanami on Madara to end the fight.

But, Izanami will NOT work on Madara.

The only time we have seen Izanami (canon, not filler) is with Itachi and Kabuto.

Kabuto couldn't accept the reality that Itachi had beaten him, because he thought himself to be the "perfect shinobi", after absorbing so many abilities and perfecting his DSM.

Itachi even said once Kabuto accepts the reality of the situation, he would be free from Izanami.

And that's just it, Madara has already accepted this reality, he only wishes to change it.

Madara doesn't have an inflated ego like Kabuto, he's not prancing around the battlefield yelling "no one can beat me hurr durr" like Kabuto was.

Once Madara vowed to change the very fabric of reality, he also accepted it, as hell. Once he accepted how bad the reality he lived in was, he wanted to change it.

Izanami won't work on someone who has accepted reality already.

That's the whole point of the jutsu, because those who could use Izanagi thought themselves unbeatable, when in REALITY, they were beatable.

So all you Sasuke fanboys need to get your heads out of your a** and accept this reality, Izanami will not work on Madara.

I was with you until that last sentence.

 

[Munboy]

I never got why people believe that Izanami would work on Madara who taught Obito all the Uchiha Kinjutsu, some of which probably include Izanami. In other words shouldn't Madara be more than capable of countering Izanami? More so now that he's a Senjutsu using Rikudou.

 

[VolatileSoul]

Madara doesn't have an inflated ego? Do people actually read this manga or not?

Plus I've never seen such skewed logic. Comparing Tsunade seeing Wood style to Sasuke. The technique was literally explained to him, he has the means to use it, and Uchiha can copy jutsu.

 

[Jako98146]

Sasuke wouldn't try it anyway. he wouldn't want to risk losing his precious enton

 

[Fluffyman]

Of course it works, people should stop thinking that Izanami is just about accepting your true self.
The caster dictates the fate of the victim, the victim stays in there until he follows/accepts his new fate.
Itachi was just kind enough to make Kabuto's new fate to accept his true self to give him another chance.

In other words shouldn't Madara be more than capable of countering Izanami?

No, Izanami was designed to counter the strongest (Uchiha) Kinjutsu, Izanagi. Its not supposed to be countered by anything.




The only reason why I can't see Sasuke using it right now is because its still too early to end Madara.

 

[Munboy]

ONo, Izanami was designed to counter the strongest (Uchiha) Kinjutsu, Izanagi. Its not supposed to be countered by anything.

The only reason why I can't see Sasuke using it right now is because its still too early to end Madara.

Why wouldn't Madara know how to get out of Izanami? Unlike Kabuto, he would be fully aware of the jutsu and how it works. Also why would Sasuke bother using a jutsu isn't suited for battle as Itachi stated?

 

[thegame]

I do agree on some aspects, but Madara's ego isn't inflated like Kabuto's, though it is big.

If Madara had an ego like Kabuto he would running up and down the field yelling " no one can beat me blah blah" all that junk, like Kabuto was, you see what I mean?

I see.

Well we can interpret Kabuto's story in many ways, but it's not really that interesting IMO.
Personally I think that the reason Izanami worked was quite simple. It was made to put down people, who had that feeling "I cannot die", because they used Izanagi.
Right now I actually think that Madara feels almost that way too, but the difference is, that Madara probably knows about Izanami, in other words he knows he can be defeated by it, if he feels the same way as someone using Izanagi.
So he actually can't be defeated by it, because he knows there are ways to defeat any person. This knowledge almost makes him undefeatable though, so it's kind of a ring question. Just my thoughts on it, anyway.