(DrProof) Ideology; The Sharingan's Truth [Must Read]

[Wolfus]

I agree, but no completelly. I think general techs(shown by more than one uchiha) like susanoo are not applied to that rule. Madara, sasuke, itachi. They're very different from one another, yet the 3 of them have susanoo. Izanamis is also a general tech(many uchihas can use it, or at least it's how it was presented) that can be used even with 3 tomoe.

But I do think specific/unique techs, just like kamui, could fit it perfectly. The only think I don't understand is how sasuke would have amaterasu, but someone above kindof explained it, so i think it fits.

Nice thread.

 

[Booker]

Read this all before, like 4-5 months ago.

 

[paratise]

Don't know what to think of it.. Its good but I kinda disagree with
the Jutsu's the user get from certain ideology's,
Do you mind elaborating on both Sasuke and Obito ?

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Your sig...Izuna looks like a Sai/Sasuke mixture.

OT: Makes sense; but in Naruto characters seem to have abilities related to their personalities; not just Uchihas. For ex. Kisame, Kakuzu (greed, taking what other's have), Sasori (obsession of being eternal, being a puppet), Deidara (opposite of Sasori), Kiba (simplistc and blunt both in person and techniques), Lee (puts out more effort than others, uses self sacrifical technique to compete), Sai (emotionless; black and white drawings), Naruto (acknowledment seeking, certain modes make him more visible in glowing fassion) etc. Obviously there are exceptions but idealogies/personalities being related to techniques happens.

Regarding to Uchiha:
Obito: Escaping reality, alternate dimension
Sasuke: Darkness, manipulates dark flames
Madara: Seeking for power and obedience, manipulates humanaoids and uses large scale blunt destruction
Shisu: effected and leas İtachi's views, has an ability to change reality on a person's mind to lead their life

 

[DrProof]

I agree, but no completelly. I think general techs(shown by more than one uchiha) like susanoo are not applied to that rule. Madara, sasuke, itachi. They're very different from one another, yet the 3 of them have susanoo. Izanamis is also a general tech(many uchihas can use it, or at least it's how it was presented) that can be used even with 3 tomoe.

But I do think specific/unique techs, just like kamui, could fit it perfectly. The only think I don't understand is how sasuke would have amaterasu, but someone above kindof explained it, so i think it fits.

Nice thread.

Thing is, with this theory applied similarities between character's isn't needed. If any Uchiha's ideology is to protect something deeply (such as Madara for his plan, or Sasuke Itachi's cruel punishment/The Uchiha's blood-written name) then I believe Susano'o can be unlocked.

Your sig...Izuna looks like a Sai/Sasuke mixture.

OT: Makes sense; but in Naruto characters seem to have abilities related to their personalities; not just Uchihas. For ex. Kisame, Kakuzu (greed, taking what other's have), Sasori (obsession of being eternal, being a puppet), Deidara (opposite of Sasori), Kiba (simplistc and blunt both in person and techniques), Lee (puts out more effort than others, uses self sacrifical technique to compete), Sai (emotionless; black and white drawings), Naruto (acknowledment seeking, certain modes make him more visible in glowing fassion) etc. Obviously there are exceptions but idealogies/personalities being related to techniques happens.

Regarding to Uchiha:
Obito: Escaping reality, alternate dimension
Sasuke: Darkness, manipulates dark flames
Madara: Seeking for power and obedience, manipulates humanaoids and uses large scale blunt destruction
Shisu: effected and leas İtachi's views, has an ability to change reality on a person's mind to lead their life

Which further more strengthens my theory!

 

[Sefirosu Masamune]

Epic as always Doctor. Your threads are what keeps my account active.

 

[DrProof]

Epic as always Doctor. Your threads are what keeps my account active.

I appreciate that bro.

 

[BlinkST]

Don't quite agree with the "ideology" interpretation. Seems more obvious that Mangekyo powers are based on lineage.

 

[sealingscroll]

Also would like to see your ideologies of other uchihas.

 

[ANiMUS]

I doubt he will. But if he does, it'd be amazing to see his explanation, and where he'd take this.


Thanks, but what part(s) do you not agree with? I would like to clear up some misconceptions in your doubts.

Well, I don't think that EVERY technique utilized by the user is a reflection of themselves.
amaterasu= merciless destruction (Not Itachi)
Susanoo= protector (not Sasuke)

I believe that Susanoo is a reflection of the users soul in general as well as their affinity. (Only possessed by those with rare powerful eyes.
I think that each user with the susanoo ability have amaterasu and tsukuyomi, but according to their personalities they gravitate towards a particular technique.

 

[Transcendence]

I had very similar thoughts

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, and it seems to be the case. I also had a hypothesis that Sasuke would gain a time manipulation ability based on his ideals, and his perception on reality and wanting to eliminate the past; which deals with time paradoxes and would have to do with manipulating time (also treads on his ability to manipulate both the physical and spiritual abilities of his Mangekyou to afflict a "Genjutsu" in a physical manner, which would essentially be a manipulation of real world time, as opposed to the way Itachi did in his Genjutsu).​

 

[DrProof]

Don't quite agree with the "ideology" interpretation. Seems more obvious that Mangekyo powers are based on lineage.

I don't think so. If Lineage were the case IN GENERAL, wouldn't Tobirama have Mokuton similar to his Older Brother, Hashirama? Or wouldn't Shino have the same type of bugs Torune (the poison nano bugs).

Also would like to see your ideologies of other uchihas.

Of course. I'll be doing that soon enough.

 

[Mitarashi]

Drproof, can you tell me ( Or make a theory about ) why Sasuke's EMS is Red on black, and has a red center pupil, where as ALL other sharingan are Black on red? It could mean something.

 

[DrProof]

I had very similar thoughts

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, and it seems to be the case. I also had a hypothesis that Sasuke would gain a time manipulation ability based on his ideals, and his perception on reality and wanting to eliminate the past; which deals with time paradoxes and would have to do with manipulating time (also treads on his ability to manipulate both the physical and spiritual abilities of his Mangekyou to afflict a "Genjutsu" in a physical manner, which would essentially be a manipulation of real world time, as opposed to the way Itachi did in his Genjutsu).​

Hm. Interesting I'll take a look!

Drproof, can you tell me ( Or make a theory about ) why Sasuke's EMS is Red on black, and has a red center pupil, where as ALL other sharingan are Black on red? It could mean something.

Interesting I actually have never noticed that. I'll take a look into it.

 

[Mitarashi]

Interesting I actually have never noticed that. I'll take a look into it.

Awesome. it's always bothered me, his MS was the same, so I assumed it was something Kishi planned..

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

Pardon me but I don't see anything new here, none the less good effort.

 

[BlinkST]

I don't think so. If Lineage were the case IN GENERAL, wouldn't Tobirama have Mokuton similar to his Older Brother, Hashirama? Or wouldn't Shino have the same type of bugs Torune (the poison nano bugs).

I didn't say that works for the characters altogether, did I? I said the Manegkyo powers are more likely based on lineage, rather than any specific ideology. Proof of Sasuke's lineage with Itachi was considered to be the jutsu Amaterasu (Rather than Susano'o).

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The "ideology" interpretation does not line up, because the uses of those jutsu between Itachi and Sasuke were not under the same circumstances.

 

[DrProof]

Pardon me but I don't see anything new here, none the less good effort.

Well, not everyone can make great threads such as yours.

 

[Optimistic]

I had very similar thoughts

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, and it seems to be the case. I also had a hypothesis that Sasuke would gain a time manipulation ability based on his ideals, and his perception on reality and wanting to eliminate the past; which deals with time paradoxes and would have to do with manipulating time (also treads on his ability to manipulate both the physical and spiritual abilities of his Mangekyou to afflict a "Genjutsu" in a physical manner, which would essentially be a manipulation of real world time, as opposed to the way Itachi did in his Genjutsu).​

Hello Blaze Release, back from your hiatus?

 

[Xēnovia.]

It's a long time since DrProof made a thread. I'm shocked.​

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

Well, not everyone can make great threads such as yours.

lol what the hell do you know about my threads. I wouldve expected you to be more appreciative of critics, but perhaps you are here just for the attention, pitty.