Juubito had no imagination/ kishi plot

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Well technically juubito is the most powerful, however manga wise madara is then again not. Anyway forget that to the point, he had odymenion or whatever you call it he was invincible till senjutsu chakra got there and even then it worked to an extent. All juubito had to do was stay in his circle odeminion ball create an eye hole to see and just fly around the battlefield and anyone he would come into contact with would disintegrate and that's how easy it is but nope he just stood there most the time trying weak tactics. I mean he could have created late buns in or some kind of clones I mean the juubi could. Also even if he was stationary in one position in his ball he could send one of those tiny balls and attack but nope he left himself open.

Personally I think it was plot so much and that even though madara is owning everyone its only cause they are underestimating him and thinking they can solo, like hashirama, tobirama, assume etc guess hiruzen is next in line anyway madara would be 100% dead now if minato,tobirama,naruto and sasuke had pulled off a combo on him like they did juubito or at least showed some teamwork.

: thought I'd edit to let everyone know I'm not hating on juubito or madara, I'm just giving my two cents
 
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Agreed, plot killed NV's strongest villain.

Madara is taking advantage of obito's work [no hate intended u_u].
 

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The rasengans shattered the black orbs, doing that wouldn't work.
 

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The rasengans shattered the black orbs, doing that wouldn't work.

Good point but how many of the alliance have senjutsu? Not many if he wanted he could have wiped the alliance out and I kinda meant before they figured out his weakness
 

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He was obviously toying them with his new power, "you can't judge me with your standards" and all that. Who would have thought the Juubi jin had a weakness? Even Obito wasn't aware of that, so it makes sense he would be toying around first.
 

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Yeah, Juubito should have slaughtered everyone. Plot ruined the strongest villain ever seen in Naruto.

Meanwhile, Madara has plot on his side when he should have been pooped on by now.
 

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Obito was so OP when he became the ten tails jinchuuriki because kishimoto nerfed kamui (wasn't able to use kamui at all).
 

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He was obviously toying them with his new power, "you can't judge me with your standards" and all that. Who would have thought the Juubi jin had a weakness? Even Obito wasn't aware of that, so it makes sense he would be toying around first.
Yeah I guess your right
Yeah, Juubito should have slaughtered everyone. Plot ruined the strongest villain ever seen in Naruto.

Meanwhile, Madara has plot on his side when he should have been pooped on by now.
you could not be more right mate, besides juubito was or at least should have been much more invincible while madara gets knocked around by tailed beasts and is OK.

Obito was so OP when he became the ten tails jinchuuriki because kishimoto nerfed kamui (wasn't able to use kamui at all).
I mean he would be completely unstoppable then
 

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Yeah I guess your right
you could not be more right mate, besides juubito was or at least should have been much more invincible while madara gets knocked around by tailed beasts and is OK.


I mean he would be completely unstoppable then

No one could have stopped him, not one, not even with FTG. I mean no jutsu works on him thus kamui? Cmon on! That's god level right there.
 

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gotta overstand that madara was the mastermind behind everything tho..even had a improvise a few times but still that man
 

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gotta overstand that madara was the mastermind behind everything tho..even had a improvise a few times but still that man

Well I would have liked the twist if obi to screwed him over instead
 

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gotta overstand that madara was the mastermind behind everything tho..even had a improvise a few times but still that man

Madara's entire plan failed. Kabuto bailed him out with Edo tensei.
 

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Obito not being able to use Kamui I think is because if he did the Juubi would leak out of him, just like how the Bijuus leaked out of the cut in his stomach. Since he didn't seem to use a conventional fuinjutsu maybe this is the case?
 

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If he could've used Kamui as the Jinchuriki there would be little to no chance of the good guys winning.. they had to restrict it somehow U_U
 

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If he could've used Kamui as the Jinchuriki there would be little to no chance of the good guys winning.. they had to restrict it somehow U_U

Pretty much this. Kamui would have broken Juubito horribly. He would have been completely unstoppable, besides TnJ.
 

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Agreed, plot killed NV's strongest villain.

Madara is taking advantage of obito's work [no hate intended u_u].
I disagree obito has not seemed like much of a villan since the mask was taken off his whole character has been basically screaming to be redeemed....we need a villan like madara who even though he has a back story you can tell hes evil for the sake of being evil he enjoys the kill which is why obito will never liveup to madara....even with all the power he gained obito was playing the role of a pawn
 

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Pretty much this. Kamui would have broken Juubito horribly. He would have been completely unstoppable, besides TnJ.

Oh yeah forgot about "TNJ" Lol
 

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no the obito fight was good it was only about 15 chapters
naruto and sasuke do a combo doesn't work,naruto realizes senju works and goes bijuu sage mode,during that fight it shows yin kurama
naruto minato and the kurama's come up with a plan to teleport everybody out of that barrier
it shows juugo mixing his senjutsu chakra with sasuke's susano'o it also shows sasuke use his full susanoo'o and he combines it with naruto's bijuu sage mode

it would have a lot less imagination if obito went around covered in his orb blasting everybody he was winning for the most part and almost did the infinite tsukuyomi
 
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