Tobirama's FTG & how he was taken out

[Touken]

First of all, his FTG isn't slower. Do you see it slower here?

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If Tobirama had done this:

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Madara would have healed instantly and that attack wasn't even able to kill a half-dead Obito.

He needed some kind of leverage

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and you can see that was aiming straight for his heart.

Hope I've made my point; Tobirama's FTG isn't slower than Minato's. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE. FTG lv. 2 was the ability to move to something that was mobile and

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The only difference between Tobirama and Minato is that he has prepped his kunai with his seal. That's all.

Second point, Tobirama was taken out the same way Sasuke was. You can see here that Madara was about to loose his footing and that his hands were occupied.

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Tobirama had the advantage here. But also, take note of his stance. Now, if you look at it in the middle-left panel of this page you'll see his stance is exactly the same.

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His left arm is close to his chest, his right hand outstretched and his left knee is exactly the same and his left foot is a little angled. Better close-up here in the bottom right-hand panel:

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As I said before, his hands were occupied but this Rinnegan technique requires no use of his hands as shown here:

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So yeah, hope I've proved my point here too; Madara took him down with a Deva Path technique, not because Tobirama's reactions are slow or whether his taijutsu is better.

Awesome chapter btw.

 

[omarsen]

Tobirama was the one eho invented FTG, he just didn't have time to perfect it like Minato did.

This chapter showed that Tobirama > Minato

 

[dark legion]

Nice ,man , this sounds more reasonable , That's Madara's advantage "Rinnegan" ...

 

[Touken]

Nice ,man , this sounds more reasonable , That's Madara's advantage "Rinnegan" ...

And his SM sensing. And his Mokuton.

Was just trying to prove that Tobirama's taijutsu isn't lacking.

 

[minatoisagod]

well tobirama did say minato's was better man. Hell minato seems to have levels for his FTG so i guess madara who battled him just knew what tobirama was gonna do.

 

[Deadai]

Makes sense this was annualized very well.

 

[Lamb]

Seems like Tobirama lost his left arm.

 

[Thundergod123]

First of all, his FTG isn't slower. Do you see it slower here?

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If Tobirama had done this:

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Madara would have healed instantly and that attack wasn't even able to kill a half-dead Obito.

He needed some kind of leverage

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and you can see that was aiming straight for his heart.

Hope I've made my point; Tobirama's FTG isn't slower than Minato's. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE. FTG lv. 2 was the ability to move to something that was mobile and

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The only difference between Tobirama and Minato is that he has prepped his kunai with his seal. That's all.

Second point, Tobirama was taken out the same way Sasuke was. You can see here that Madara was about to loose his footing and that his hands were occupied.

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Tobirama had the advantage here. But also, take note of his stance. Now, if you look at it in the middle-left panel of this page you'll see his stance is exactly the same.

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His left arm is close to his chest, his right hand outstretched and his left knee is exactly the same and his left foot is a little angled. Better close-up here in the bottom right-hand panel:

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As I said before, his hands were occupied but this Rinnegan technique requires no use of his hands as shown here:

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So yeah, hope I've proved my point here too; Madara took him down with a Deva Path technique, not because Tobirama's reactions are slow or whether his taijutsu is better.

Awesome chapter btw.

I knew it all along, so you don't say.

 

[Touken]

Seems like Tobirama lost his left arm.

I thought that too but then realized that loads of debris would be forming another arm instantly. You can see that's not happening here.

 

[rinnegan human puppet]

tobirama did his part, its not a fair fight tho bruh

 

[Europa]

The vulture that is Tobirama is finally gone.

 

[Touken]

tobirama did his part, its not a fair fight tho bruh

Very true. If Hashirama couldn't defeat Edo Madara then Tobirama stood no chance against this god-like current Madara.

Although I'm glad this chapter's established that Tobirama can apply seals to regular kunais/swords etc.

The vulture that is Tobirama is finally gone.

Where's Kisame, again?

 

[Zetsueno]

Tobirama was the one eho invented FTG, he just didn't have time to perfect it like Minato did.

This chapter showed that Tobirama > Minato

Please. Tobirama was atleast a good couple of years older than Minato when he died. But, at this point, Tobirama>Minato or Minato>Tobirama is still debatable.

 

[Touken]

Please. Tobirama was atleast a good couple of years older than Minato when he died. But, at this point, Tobirama>Minato or Minato>Tobirama is still debatable.

pls no minat vs tobarama fyt

 

[Avinash012]

Please. Tobirama was atleast a good couple of years older than Minato when he died. But, at this point, Tobirama>Minato or Minato>Tobirama is still debatable.

A couple of years??

Hell,his older Bro is old enough to have a grand child even b4 his death if anything Tobirama is somewhere between 45 and 55 at the time of his death,Tobirama's experience >>>>Minato's age.

 

[Europa]

Very true. If Hashirama couldn't defeat Edo Madara then Tobirama stood no chance against this god-like current Madara.

Although I'm glad this chapter's established that Tobirama can apply seals to regular kunais/swords etc.

Where's Kisame, again?

Heaven .

 

[benzy]

And how that chapter proved Tobirama > Minato ? It proved only that Tobirama isnt smart enough to spread his kunais and port to them to dodge the Madara's Attacks that what this chapter proved. If that is FTG slash god then Izuna should have been FODDER.When Minato gets Raped like that then tell me Tobirama > Minato.

 

[BlacLord™]

Good post TK, indeed "Level 2" was a mistranslation.

The phrase Minato used "飛雷神二の段だよ!" does not translate as "That was the level 2 Hiraishin!" but rather "That was the two step Hirashin!" ( 1) Throw the kunai, 2) Teleport to it).

And indeed, Tobirama's swiftness further emphasised that his FTG is just as competent as Minato's, arguably better if you include his pin-sharp reactions. This chapter also enlightened me on the mechanics of Hiraishingiri.

It should have been obvious, but I've always had a tendency to forget to sum things up. In any case, it's always been clear that the FTG seal has a radius of teleportation in which the user can teleport anywhere within. With Hiraishingiri, the user must get close enough to the target that the latter becomes inside of said radius and the rest... is history.

@benzy Minato's reaction times are slower, he would have been caught out quicker.

 

[TrollingSage]

Good post TK, indeed "Level 2" was a mistranslation.

The phrase Minato used "飛雷神二の段だよ!" does not translate as "That was the level 2 Hiraishin!" but rather "That was the two step Hirashin!" ( 1) Throw the kunai, 2) Teleport to it).

And indeed, Tobirama's swiftness further emphasised that his FTG is just as competent as Minato's, arguably better if you include his pin-sharp reactions. This chapter also enlightened me on the mechanics of Hiraishingiri.

It should have been obvious, but I've always had a tendency to forget to sum things up. In any case, it's always been clear that the FTG seal has a radius of teleportation in which the user can teleport anywhere within. With Hiraishingiri, the user must get close enough to the target that the latter becomes inside of said radius and the rest... is history.

@benzy Minato's reaction times are slower, he would have been caught out quicker.

Maybe in your dreams Minato's reactions are way above Tobirama's

 

[Touken]

Good post TK, indeed "Level 2" was a mistranslation.

The phrase Minato used "飛雷神二の段だよ!" does not translate as "That was the level 2 Hiraishin!" but rather "That was the two step Hirashin!" ( 1) Throw the kunai, 2) Teleport to it).

And indeed, Tobirama's swiftness further emphasised that his FTG is just as competent as Minato's, arguably better if you include his pin-sharp reactions. This chapter also enlightened me on the mechanics of Hiraishingiri.

It should have been obvious, but I've always had a tendency to forget to sum things up. In any case, it's always been clear that the FTG seal has a radius of teleportation in which the user can teleport anywhere within. With Hiraishingiri, the user must get close enough to the target that the latter becomes inside of said radius and the rest... is history.

@benzy Minato's reaction times are slower, he would have been caught out quicker.

Stop making me blush c:c:

Two step Hiraishin makes much more sense than Level 2 Hiraishin and aye, good point regarding Hiraishingiri. What would make this tech more dangerous if Tobirama used Tajuu Kage Bunshin and they all started teleporting to their target via kunai/swords. That way, even though the user must get close enough to the target, the target would have to deal with many Kage Bunshin.

Maybe in your dreams Minato's reactions are way above Tobirama's

I'd say their reaction feats are on par.