Gai vs Minato

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The heck, Shunshin is not a form/method of S/T.

Shunshin is where the user vitalizes the body temporarily with chakra and because it's extremely high speed, it's referred to as teleporting but all it is is foot speed.
 

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The heck, Shunshin is not a form/method of S/T.

Shunshin is where the user vitalizes the body temporarily with chakra and because it's extremely high speed, it's referred to as teleporting but all it is is foot speed.

Precisely.
 

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The heck, Shunshin is not a form/method of S/T.

Shunshin is where the user vitalizes the body temporarily with chakra and because it's extremely high speed, it's referred to as teleporting but all it is is foot speed.
Scans?
Poor memory.
 

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Scans?
Poor memory.

I'll find them, but you really shouldn't even need them.

If Shunshin, a jutsu any compotent shinobi can use, was S/T, FTG would be obselete. It would make no sense.
 

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Scans?
Poor memory.
Scans explaining Shunshin aren't exactly necessary. And they explain it early on in Naruto, I can't be bothered going through the past chapters D:

-S/T is where no physical movement is required at all:
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You can see from the previous pages that Minato did not move one bit; he created a clone and made that clone FTG to Obito.
-Shunshin requires physical movement:
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Their stances show they all physically moved.
 

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That's actually debatable. We know for fact the ftg has a wind gust similar to that of summonings which appears once used,


There is a possibly that the gust of wind MInato left in place simply shifted its position in result of the occurring winds. That seems more plausible that Minato having time to toss a kunia with Ay in his face as is if was slow motion. -_-

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No gust of wind, or smoke, or anything. Is this one enough? Or do you want more?
 

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Scans explaining Shunshin aren't exactly necessary. And they explain it early on in Naruto, I can't be bothered going through the past chapters D:

-S/T is where no physical movement is required at all:
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You can see from the previous pages that Minato did not move one bit; he created a clone and made that clone FTG to Obito.
-Shunshin requires physical movement:
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Their stances show they all physically moved.

Chill I looked it up on the Wiki after i asked. Did Minato shunshin in the second scan? if not what is tobirama talking about
 

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No dumbass lol you used that scans to try to prove Minato's base speed, which you failed miserably. Only TWO of the "8" scan were accurate.

Base speed = Shunshin

Go back and look at every scan I posted. Non of them were FTG's. A few were of Minato marking opponents without them realizing, others were of him blitzing with just shunshin. But non were of him FTG'ing.

Pleased don't try to switch your claim after you've been proven wrong, even looking at your post you try to argue how those scans were speed feats -_-

What are you referring to?

I said Minato was caught twice, which in fact he was!

No, you said he was caught by the same ability twice:

You're speaking of knowledge as if the changes one reaction speed! Minato witnessed his ability and still almost got caught a second time, so I fail to see you point. Btw Gai has knowledge of Minato's abilities.

"Minato witnessed his ability and still almost got caught a second time." Obito did not try to warp Minato the second time, therefore you were wrong, he only used chains.

Anyway, Minato did not almost get caught because he teleported to safety the . Just because he was touched doesn't mean he was in any danger, because he wasn't.


Similarly to how he fought against GAI who was able to physically react!!!! Minato was caught and used FTG. STOP TRYING TO TWIST THINGS IN YOUR FAVOR when the scans prove it

The scans prove that Minato got touched, and Minato then teleported without the slightest degree of harm. Don't see how this tips anything in Gai's favor.

I said Minato defeated Obito and not Kmaui, yet you want proof of how more experienced become with Kamui over the course of time? lol are you serious?

No, I want proof of how Obito became faster with his Kamui. Experience =/= speed increase. Seriously, just because he became more experienced with his tech doesn't mean he became any faster in using it. Just means he became more intelligent and strategic, until you show me a scan of him saying otherwise.

THe rest of you post wasn't even worth acknowledging and this is starting to bore me. You're so focused on what Gai knew and inaccurate scans, I'm starting to waste my time.

And with this you've thrown in the towel. You won't acknowledge Minato's Shunshin along with his hand speed, so you ignore it. It's clear you know that Minato will win.

It's funny how you've been debating how Gai reacted to Obito, but you've never once said how Gai will react to Minato, who is faster than Obito. Gai goes in to punch Minato, Minato dodges, Minato marks Gai, game over.
 

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Minato wins but I don't think it's a stomp either. Gai's base speed allowed him to react to Haku in Ice Mirrors, and Haku's insanely fast in Mirrors. The shockwaves produced from using Gates blows away all incoming & surrounding marked kunai but FTG still lets Minato dodge any attack.

Lol, oh come on.

The weakest version of Sasuke was dodging those attacks.
 

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Blaz you need to stop your gonna make people start hating gai...he CAN NOT beat minato....minato would win low diff because he wouldnt even give him time to open the gates he needs to win...the fastest ninja in the series literally just needs to touch him once to tag him then its over
Gai is my favorite character but i dont say he can beat people that he cant U_U
 

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Lol, oh come on.

The weakest version of Sasuke was dodging those attacks.
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States himself it's because he kept up his Ice Mirrors for too long. He In the fight against Lee & Gai he's Edo Tensei and he was only using one mirror and so it took up less chakra.
 
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