Gai vs Minato

[Gold Lightning]

How did this even reach 3 pages. Gai can even start in 8th gate and still won't touch Minato.

 

[blazekev90]

Smh @ these post. The focus isn't foot speed, but rather react time. Minato had slight difficulty reacting to Tobi's straightforward offenses. Tobi himself was able to react to Minato's Lv1 ftg tactics.

Base Gai has shown the ability to react to a superior Tobi. Kamui is still S/T, it doesn't get any "faster" than that. Therefore, Minato Blitzing or catching Gai off guard is highly unlikely. There is a reason why Itachi warned Kisame not to take him lightly, Gai is a beast.

 

[~Sky~]

Smh @ these post. The focus isn't foot speed, but rather react time. Minato had slight difficulty reacting to Tobi's straightforward offenses. Tobi himself was able to react to Minato's Lv1 ftg tactics.

Base Gai has shown the ability to react to a superior Tobi. Kamui is still S/T, it doesn't get any "faster" than that. Therefore, Minato Blitzing or catching Gai off guard is highly unlikely. There is a reason why Itachi warned Kisame not to take him lightly, Gai is a beast.

Minato didn't have trouble reacting to Obito.. And Minato also reacted to the V2 Raikage with ease, and he is faster than Gai.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

To the post above me. Yeah no.

Gai is fast, but he's nothing compared to Minato.

 

[blazekev90]

Minato didn't have trouble reacting to Obito.. And Minato also reacted to the V2 Raikage with ease, and he is faster than Gai.

Child he did, hence his ass almost got catch the chains Tobi possessed. Arguably that was not V2 raiton used and that's irrelevant. Foot speed isn't anything in comparison to S/T aka Kamui.

Checked.

 

[blazekev90]

To the post above me. Yeah no.

Gai is fast, but he's nothing compared to Minato.

Minato's basic taijutsu fodder in comparison to Gai, his ftg is fodder compared to Kamui (Minato stated that himself) .

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Child he did, hence his ass almost got catch the chains Tobi possessed. Arguably that was not V2 raiton used and that's irrelevant. Foot speed isn't anything in comparison to S/T aka Kamui.

Checked.

He only got caught because of Kamui.

 

[blazekev90]

He only got caught because of Kamui.

Exaxtly. Point noted

 

[~Sky~]

Child he did, hence his ass almost got catch the chains Tobi possessed. Arguably that was not V2 raiton used and that's irrelevant. Foot speed isn't anything in comparison to S/T aka Kamui.

Checked.

That was the V2 Raikage. Only haters debate otherwise. Raikage himself said he was using his top speed, and also admitted inferiority to Minato speed-wise many times.

FTG is faster than Kamui.

 

[blazekev90]

That was the V2 Raikage. Only haters debate otherwise. Raikage himself said he was using his top speed, and also admitted inferiority to Minato speed-wise many times.

FTG is faster than Kamui.

Ok, well that's your opinion and you're entitled to that. But the scan say otherwise.

Minato stated Obito's S/T was superior to his own. So idk what you're talking about.

 

[~Sky~]

Ok, well that's your opinion and you're entitled to that. But that's scan say otherwise.

Minato stated Obito's S/T was superior to his own. So idk what you're talking about.

No scan says the Raikage wasn't using V2. That's fanfiction.

Kamui is indeed superior to FTG, but that's because it's more versatile, not because it's faster.

 

[blazekev90]

No scan says the Raikage wasn't using V2. That's fanfiction.

Kamui is indeed superior to FTG, but that's because it's more versatile, not because it's faster.

You've implied that he used V2, but seeing the difference is his appearance from V1 to V2 it's safe to assume Ay was V1 against Minato. Regardless, that meams nothing in regard to Gai.

S/T cant het any faster, agreed. It's superior because of its unpredictability and versatility. Gai had no issue defending against that and preventing Obito from wrapping him. However, you that inferior ftg would own Gai?....laughable

 

[Booker]

You've implied that he used V2, but seeing the difference is his appearance from V1 to V2 it's safe to assume Ay was V1 against Minato. Regardless, that meams nothing in regard to Gai.

S/T cant het any faster, agreed. It's superior because of its unpredictability and versatility. Gai had no issue defending against that and preventing Obito from wrapping him. However, you that inferior ftg would own Gai?....laughable

Can you even give me scans showing Gai moving faster than a V1 Ay? I'll wait.

Minato outclasses Gai so far in speed, it's stupid to say otherwise. Minato has far better speed feats even without FTG, and can blitz and kill Gai. Adding FTG is overkill.

 

[~Sky~]

You've implied that he used V2, but seeing the difference is his appearance from V1 to V2 it's safe to assume Ay was V1 against Minato. Regardless, that meams nothing in regard to Gai.

S/T cant het any faster, agreed. It's superior because of its unpredictability and versatility. Gai had no issue defending against that and preventing Obito from wrapping him. However, you that inferior ftg would own Gai?....laughable

He did use V2. He said Minato was

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, and he said he was using his

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. The only thing suggesting otherwise is biased denial.

Obito's Kamui was said to be superior because it required no

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. Not because it was faster. Minato

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Kamui and he

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it.

Also the manga explicitly said Minato won the battle of speed:

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Also, Gai never reacted to Kamui. He fought with

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, traded

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, countered

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, but he never reacted to Kamui, because Obito never tried to absorb him. It's also notable that Gai had intel on Kamui while Minato did not, so Gai was able to fight knowing the boundaries while Minato had to figure it out on his own.

 

[blazekev90]

Can you even give me scans showing Gai moving faster than a V1 Ay? I'll wait.

Minato outclasses Gai so far in speed, it's stupid to say otherwise. Minato has far better speed feats even without FTG, and can blitz and kill Gai. Adding FTG is overkill.

Damn are yall slow or just acting dumb now? I know the server keep logging me out but sheesh.

Gais foot speed don't not need to be on par with Ay nor Minato's. He's proven he can react to S/T. Wtf aren't you getting?

 

[blazekev90]

He did use V2. He said Minato was

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, and he said he was using his

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. The only thing suggesting otherwise is biased denial.

Obito's Kamui was said to be superior because it required no

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. Not because it was faster. Minato

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Kamui and he

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it.

Also the manga explicitly said Minato won the battle of speed:

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Also, Gai never reacted to Kamui. He fought with

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, traded

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, countered

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, but he never reacted to Kamui, because Obito never tried to absorb him. It's also notable that Gai had intel on Kamui while Minato did not, so Gai was able to fight knowing the boundaries while Minato had to figure it out on his own.

1) why are we still discussing Ay? He has no relevance to this battle, foot speed isn't the issue. -_-

2) i said S/T has no speed difference, this is something a toddler could understand. It's about predictability, no hands help as well.

3) rereas the manga booboo Obito did try to wrap him and if this server was acting right i would proudly provide the receipts.

 

[fastrthnwind]

Gai can win if he uses his long range techniques before minato can spread kunai around the field. Even if that happens, one hirudora will push away all kunai to the edge of the arena. Also, unless minato already has a kunai placed somewhere FAR away from the arena before the match when gai uses hirudora, then minato will simply be oneshotted right then and there.

 

[~Sky~]

1) why are we still discussing Ay? He has no relevance to this battle, foot speed isn't the issue. -_-

Because you were undermining Minato's reaction feat. A was obviously in V2.

A is faster than Gai. If Minato can react to V2 A, he can react to any gated form of Gai.

2) i said S/T has no speed difference, this is something a toddler could understand. It's about predictability, no hands help as well.

Not exactly. FTG level 2 is proven to be faster. The manga even said FTG was faster.

3) rereas the manga booboo Obito did try to wrap him and if this server was acting right i would proudly provide the receipts.

No he didn't. Are you talking about this?

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That's not countering Kamui, that's stopping Obito before he could use it. (Again, he had knowledge on it)

This is countering Kamui:

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Gai has no feat comparable to that.

 

[Booker]

Damn are yall slow or just acting dumb now? I know the server keep logging me out but sheesh.

Gais foot speed don't not need to be on par with Ay nor Minato's. He's proven he can react to S/T. Wtf aren't you getting?

Okay, give me scans of Gai reacting to S/T.

 

[blazekev90]

Because you were undermining Minato's reaction feat. A was obviously in V2.

A is faster than Gai. If Minato can react to V2 A, he can react to any gated form of Gai.



Not exactly. FTG level 2 is proven to be faster. The manga even said FTG was faster.



No he didn't. Are you talking about this?

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That's not countering Kamui, that's stopping Obito before he could use it. (Again, he had knowledge on it)

This is countering Kamui:

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Gai has no feat comparable to that.

Minato's reaction speed isnt in question here, though we've seen him almost get wrapped to Kamui!! Why are you comparing Ay's foot speed to Kamui?!? Foot Speed =/ ftg or kamui. Do you understand that?Also, its already been shown Minato

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The only reason Minato was able to avoid this was because his Hiraishin is instantaneous. This was straightforward attacks!

"FTG level 2 is proven to be faster" What?! ftg isnt faster, Minato simply used two kunia, one as a decoy and another used to S/T to to attack Tobi when he materialized to wrap Minato. This was a means to avoiding being wrapped, there is NO speed difference. That was simply Tobi's inexperience at that time, he was a child/teen, nothing in comparison to rinnesgan Tobi experience.

Similarly, Tobi goes into wrap Gai here

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as he did against Minato. Gai not having S/T couldnt teleport of of the situation, but instead uses his reaction speed to prevent that from happening. Again like against Minato, in place of the chain, Tobi tried to counteract but Gai again reacted w/o looking

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The fact means, Kamui is superior because it's harder to avoid. With ftg one can easily counter the mechanics behind it, kunia/tags by not getting touched.