Gaara>Itachi I'll tell you why

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Deidara's C3 attack descended fairly slow. Gaara had well enough prep time to form the sand shield on the village. Plus, it only explodes upon impact.

Every Shinobi can perform Shunshin... It's a trademark, Gaara doesn't transform into sand, only Shinobi who can transform into their element is Suigetsu, Gaara wouldn't wear the Sand Armor if he could simply transform into it.

There is NO counter against Tsukuyomi, and Itachi's other Genjutsu are subtle at best (meaning Gaara could get caught before the battle even begins, which Itachi was ALWAYS shown doing), even with the third eye, how is he going to negate Tsukuyomi? It works on an entirely different level.

Oh, yeah, Gaara has already noted in the battle against Kimimaro that using and creating sand that wasn't made in the Gourd takes much more Chakra to use and control since it's naturally heavier...... His techniques would exhaust his Chakra by the time Itachi begins the onset of exhaustion before using Susano'o.
Dude. Gaara can't definitively defeat Itachi.

Um no dude, Oonoki made the sand lighter so Gaara could have greater control over it. Gaara states that the sand outside his gourd is much heavier because the sand in his gourd is fused with his own personal chakara. What Oonoki did was he made Gaara's control over that sand "lighter" so Gaara could manipulate it better without the weight restrictions. Also, you never mentioned Yasaka's Magatama. Madara has already shown that it can pierce straight through Gaara's "Mother Shield" which is his ultimate defense. The fact that the speed of YM makes it so Gaara can't fight while being in the air. Like I said before the sharigan sees chakara so Itachi will always know when Gaara is attacking or even if Gaara is setting up attacks with his sand by just simply laying his sand around Itachi. Totsuka sword IS the cheat code here because he can just absorb anything just by piercing it. That and Yata's mirror which repels ANY attack. Lastly, the ONLY way Gaara would have even a slim chance vs Itachi is if he was fighting in a desert. You never stated where they would be fighting. But it really doesn't matter anyway because Gaara's control over normal sand isn't nearly on the same level as his personal sand. The fact that Itachi can see chakara he would know what sand is his attacking sand and what isn't. Gaara has NO answer for Susanoo without Oonoki.

You two clearly haven't done your homework on Gaara. You continue to give Itachi Madara's feats when Madara is levels beyond Itachi.

Nah on first scan Deidara gave Gaara a lot of time to 'react', Totsuka won't give him that much amount of time to react. Sand transformation is something which useless against Totsuka as totsuka seals souls.
'Grinding minerals' does take chakra to 'grind' them.
Even if he is in the air, he can't counter Tsukuyomi and that's the fact.

5 seconds (if that much time was given) is plenty of time needed to make a shield over 500 pounds? Totsuka seals souls, exactly. If Gaara uses his sand transformation, Itachi is sealing sand, which he can't.

I'm going to just let you have this one, becasue it's not that big a deal as it must not take much chakra if kid Gaara can immedeatly perform Sand Tsunami afterwards.

Gaara can easily escape Sharingan's range by flying above mountains with ease. Itachi might as well just give up after that. None of Itachi's ninjutsu can reach above mountains.
 

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@Bold

lol Wut?

(1) Anime is non-canon
(2) You obviously have no idea what you're talking about if you think Gaara is too slow for Shunshin jutsu. That scan you posted was his shunsin jutsu, and he did it even earlier in that fight as well.

Sheesh, if you're going to argue for Gaara at least know what you're talking about.

So Itachi never died in the anime? Becasue that's non-canon right? It happened in the manga and anime, so it ualifies as canon. If your going to argue, atleast know what your talking about.

Plus, Gaara can fly too high for Totsuka to reach him. When Totsuka can reach above mountains, then say "Totsuka GG"
 

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So Itachi never died in the anime? Becasue that's non-canon right? It happened in the manga and anime, so it ualifies as canon. If your going to argue, atleast know what your talking about.

Plus, Gaara can fly too high for Totsuka to reach him. When Totsuka can reach above mountains, then say "Totsuka GG"

Except Gaara turning to sand happened in the anime (allegedly, I'd like to see that as well), while he didn't in the manga. Anime is non-canon, period.

Show me one scan where Gaara is flying higher than mountains in a 1v1 fight and I'll say you win. I'll wait.
 

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Except Gaara turning to sand happened in the anime (allegedly, I'd like to see that as well), while he didn't in the manga. Anime is non-canon, period.

Show me one scan where Gaara is flying higher than mountains in a 1v1 fight and I'll say you win. I'll wait.

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It may not be a 1 on 1 fight, but if anything, it only infasize my point. Gaara can carry five people above mountains, so just Gaara should still be above mountains.
 

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You two clearly haven't done your homework on Gaara. You continue to give Itachi Madara's feats when Madara is levels beyond Itachi.



5 seconds (if that much time was given) is plenty of time needed to make a shield over 500 pounds? Totsuka seals souls, exactly. If Gaara uses his sand transformation, Itachi is sealing sand, which he can't.

I'm going to just let you have this one, becasue it's not that big a deal as it must not take much chakra if kid Gaara can immedeatly perform Sand Tsunami afterwards.

Gaara can easily escape Sharingan's range by flying above mountains with ease. Itachi might as well just give up after that. None of Itachi's ninjutsu can reach above mountains.

Sorry dude buts its the same damn ability.

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Sasuke's Amateratsu effect is the exact same is Itachi's. The only difference is that Sasuke has better manipulation over the flames. Its no different here. I mean really, If Gaara can barely block Susanoo's attacks and I mean barely then you are trying to tell my that YM will just bounce off Gaara's sand?
 

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Sorry dude buts its the same damn ability.

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Sasuke's Amateratsu effect is the exact same is Itachi's. The only difference is that Sasuke has better manipulation over the flames. Its no different here. I mean really, If Gaara can barely block Susanoo's attacks and I mean barely then you are trying to tell my that YM will just bounce off Gaara's sand?

Yes, it is the same attack, but is it on the same level?

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Do you see how many Susanoo it took for them to knowch Gaara down? Like I said, you clearly didn't do your homework on Gaara.
 

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I'll make you a gif on this another day.

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It may not be a 1 on 1 fight, but if anything, it only infasize my point. Gaara can carry five people above mountains, so just Gaara should still be above mountains.

I'm well aware of Gaara's feats, probably more so than you. Doesn't matter. He doesn't do it during fights, and he's not going to do it against Itachi.

Also, infasize. Lol.
 

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I'm well aware of Gaara's feats, probably more so than you. Doesn't matter. He doesn't do it during fights, and he's not going to do it against Itachi.

If so, we wouldn't be having this argument. You are appreantly toostubborn to change your mind even after the evidence was put in your face so, I give up n this debate. I know when a debate isn't a debate anymore. This is just you ignoring all evidence placed in front of you.
 

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If so, we wouldn't be having this argument. You are appreantly toostubborn to change your mind even after the evidence was put in your face so, I give up n this debate. I know when a debate isn't a debate anymore. This is just you ignoring all evidence placed in front of you.

Annnnnnnd, GG.
 

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Yes, it is the same attack, but is it on the same level?

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Do you see how many Susanoo it took for them to knowch Gaara down? Like I said, you clearly didn't do your homework on Gaara.

Except you forget the fact that they are CLONES. What is the number 1 rule with clones? Also, its Susanoo dude. Gaara stated himself that if Madara's Susanoo was like Sasuke's then what? Madara, Itachi and Sasuke's Susanoo has shown the same destructive power. The difference here is the stages of that Susanoo when they show this power. Itachi has shown to have Final Susanoo which is the final step before perfect Susanoo so what is your excuse there?
 

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Yes, it is the same attack, but is it on the same level?

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Do you see how many Susanoo it took for them to knowch Gaara down? Like I said, you clearly didn't do your homework on Gaara.

hahahah you are funny

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and touska will seal him even if he could trasnform into dust.

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He can only pull Itachi out of Susanoo if there is sand at his feet.

Also your suggesting he spend the whole time in his sand ball to avoid genjutsu. An easy target for Yasakana beads.
 

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I stopped reading when you said gaara's immune to genjutsu. You don't know what you're talking about.
 

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Never thought about this match up, but given Part 1 vs Sasuke... I think if Itachi made it a close range battle he'd win, because Itachi is fast as hell. I've gotta check data book stats, but I believe his speed was faster than Sasuke's.
 

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hahahah you are funny

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and touska will seal him even if he could trasnform into dust.

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Are you done with your weak arguments? Your just ignoring all the facts I give you.

Totsuka can only seal souls, not and.

He can only pull Itachi out of Susanoo if there is sand at his feet.

Also your suggesting he spend the whole time in his sand ball to avoid genjutsu. An easy target for Yasakana beads.

Gaara mixes and grinds the mineraqls in the earth to make his own sand. One sand tsunami and it's gaara world.

He doesn't have to be in his special defense ball to use third eye. He could just make it an aerilal battle and use it to spy on Itachi. Then, he could attack him from a distance, and Itachi's taijutsu can't reach him.

I stopped reading when you said gaara's immune to genjutsu. You don't know what you're talking about.

I don't know why you posted.

Never thought about this match up, but given Part 1 vs Sasuke... I think if Itachi made it a close range battle he'd win, because Itachi is fast as hell. I've gotta check data book stats, but I believe his speed was faster than Sasuke's.

This is an entirely new Gaara. Gaara is not part 1 Gara anymore. If you read the manga, you can see his new and latest feats.
 

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Never thought about this match up, but given Part 1 vs Sasuke... I think if Itachi made it a close range battle he'd win, because Itachi is fast as hell. I've gotta check data book stats, but I believe his speed was faster than Sasuke's.

Itachi's even far faster than part 2 sasuke. The same sasuke that dodged V1 ay and V1 bee is slower than itachi by a big margin.
 

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please stop making me laugh

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everything

We've only seen Itachi seal humans with it, I'm going by manga facts, not accusations Oro made that haven't been proven.
 

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We've only seen Itachi seal humans with it, I'm going by manga facts, not accusations Oro made that haven't been proven.

(1) Black Zetsu said that

(2) Totsuka seals everything, otherwise Nagato's robe would have been left behind
 

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Lol, what R you smoking?
 
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