Is it that hard to make unbiased top 10s, discussions or whatever? -_-

Vandenre1ch

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Not just top 10-100s, but any discussion about a character or set of characters. The forums have been flooded with top 10s lately and of course, people have their opinions. Not everyones opinions are the same of course, and everyone has a 100% right to express it, but it doesn't mean that the individual's opinion won't be completely dumb, retarded, illogical, confusing etc.. Most of the bias comes from fanboying and haters of course, but some of the fanboys and hater TRULY believe that they are being unbiased even when the wank is obviously real. I never understood that since I've never fanboyed or hated on a character. I believe myself to be very unbiased(when I'm not joking).

My favorite character is Madara and the only character(s) that can match him are Hashirama, Juubito, The Sage and the Juubi itself. I can easily agree that Madara's character is average at best and is becoming a forerunner for a**pulls. If I compare my top 20 favorites to my top 20 list:

Top 20 Favorite
1-Madara
2-Tobirama
3-Hashirama
4-Minato(before he was brought back. Edo Minato is not as cool as I thought he'd be)
5-Nagato
6-Kabuto
7-Kakashi
8-Sasuke
9-Naruto
10-Jiraiya
11-Killer Bee
12-Itachi
13-Might Guy
14-Shino
15-Ay
16-Orochimaru
17-Hiruzen
18-Danzo
19-Sasori
20-Kakuzu

Top 20 list
1-Juubito
2-Madara
3-Hashirama
4-BSM Naruto
5-PS Sasuke
6-Nagato
7-DSM Kabuto
8-BM Minato
9-Tobirama Senju
10-Itachi
11-Killer Bee
12-Hiruzen
13-Orochimaru
14-Jiraiya
15-Danzo
16-Third Raikage
17-Muu
18-Second Mizukage
19-Onoki
20-Tsunade

Can't really tell how strong Kakashi is to be honest. That Kamui...

The placements are very different.

Opinions change overtime and some of my favorite characters got lower and lower in top 10(0)s and I don't care as long as its reasonable. I used to think Jiraiya was stonger than Itachi, Nagato and Orochimaru. As well as Itachi being stronger than Nagato, Minato and Kabuto, but that all changed and it was pretty easy for me.

Is it so hard to accept that your opinion is wrong and not cling to one a certian outcome that supports your character so excessively?
 

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There lies no such matter as an "unbiased" top 10, as top 10's are purely subjective and a matter of perspective.
 
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Top 20 not even close....Minato foot speed would beat EMS Sasuke and BSM Naruto...I'll show you all the scans I need if I have to, and Nagato...I still don't know.

Maybe Nagato > Minato, I'd say that.

There's no proof that Madara or Hashirama can react to Minato....even less proof since Madara got smacked by the tailed beast lmao! Also by Madara speed blitz'n Hashirama and what I just said about Madara that makes him even less reactant to Minato.

So that's just hype out the @ss created by retards who think they know. Being unbiased here.
 

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Really though nobody is completely right because in the end this is all fan opinion and theory. None of this is fact, I don't care what anyone says but its true. Its all theory and speculation.

Until kishi makes a top ten list(which wont happen), you just have to deal with everyones opinion.
 
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I really loved this!! rep+ man. Very reasonable, people should think like that instead of being a dic*head
 
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BM Minato > anyone bar Madara/Hashirama/Juubito

This and Tobirama > DSM Kabuto....I would say.

Tobirama is just as fast enough to get DSM Kabuto...especially if he can get a person who has Sage like powers.
You have to look at everything dude...know I'm doing A>B>C but its actually valid in a sense.
 

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It's really not .

1/Madara .
2/Obito.
3/Kabuto.
4/Oro.
5/Hashimara.
6/Minato.
7/Nagato
8/Naruto/Sauske
9/Sauske/Naruto.
10/Itachi
 

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Jiraiya and Danzo> 3rd Raikage? yeah, no :|
 

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Top 20 w/o edos.

Rikudobito
Madara
Hashirama
Naruto/Sasuke
Naruto/Sasuke
Nagato
Kabuto
Minato/Tobirama/Itachi
Minato/Tobirama/Itachi
Minato/Tobirama/Itachi
Kirabi
Muu/Nidaime Mizukage/Sandaime Raikage
Muu/Nidaime Mizukage/Sandaime Raikage
Muu/Nidaime Mizukage/Sandaime Raikage
Jiraiya
Kisame/Deidara
Kisame/Deidara
Sasori/Gaara
Sasori/Gaara
Danzo
 

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Idk man, people on this site REALLY stick to their opinions.
 

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Top 20 w/o edos.

Rikudobito
Madara
Hashirama
Naruto/Sasuke
Naruto/Sasuke
Nagato
Kabuto
Minato/Tobirama/Itachi
Minato/Tobirama/Itachi
Minato/Tobirama/Itachi
Kirabi
Muu/Nidaime Mizukage/Sandaime Raikage
Muu/Nidaime Mizukage/Sandaime Raikage
Muu/Nidaime Mizukage/Sandaime Raikage
Jiraiya
Kisame/Deidara
Kisame/Deidara
Sasori/Gaara
Sasori/Gaara
Danzo

Good list, but what about Oro and Kakashi?
 
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It's really not .

1/Madara .
2/Obito.
3/Kabuto.
4/Oro.
5/Hashimara.
6/Minato.
7/Nagato
8/Naruto/Sauske
9/Sauske/Naruto.
10/Itachi

LMAO! NEITHER IS YOURS YOU'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE!

Why do you people put in people who use to be powerful? Its not even a logical top ten anymore, fail. Sorry, your my bro but fail u-u

Until Hashirama, Madara, Obito (showed a huge react to Minato, but only because FTG gets slowed when a clone is present)


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Orochimaru XD hype, not logical to do so, he's only shown the same old snake justus
 

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Rikudobito
Madara
Hashirama
Naruto/Sasuke
Naruto/Sasuke
Nagato
Kabuto
Minato/Tobirama/Itachi
Minato/Tobirama/Itachi
Minato/Tobirama/Itachi
Kirabi
Muu/Nidaime Mizukage/Sandaime Raikage
Muu/Nidaime Mizukage/Sandaime Raikage
Muu/Nidaime Mizukage/Sandaime Raikage
Kakashi
Jiraiya
Kisame
Deidara/Sasori
Deidara/Sasori
Orochimaru

Good list, but what about Oro and Kakashi?
I forgot Kakashi. xD

Let me re-do it.
 

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I know right! I'm pretty sure we can all agree Lord Madara is number 1 :hint:
 

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Great list! I agree that Kakashi shouldn't be on the top 20 strongest characters list, as he, honestly, is no match for any of those characters. Maybe if he had a plan, he'd be able to kill some, but overall, he is not comparable to them.
 

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BM Minato > anyone bar Madara/Hashirama/Juubito

Top 20 not even close....Minato foot speed would beat EMS Sasuke and BSM Naruto...I'll show you all the scans I need if I have to, and Nagato...I still don't know.

Maybe Nagato > Minato, I'd say that.

There's no proof that Madara or Hashirama can react to Minato....even less proof since Madara got smacked by the tailed beast lmao! Also by Madara speed blitz'n Hashirama and what I just said about Madara that makes him even less reactant to Minato.

So that's just hype out the @ss created by retards who think they know. Being unbiased here.

It's really not .

1/Madara .
2/Obito.
3/Kabuto.
4/Oro.
5/Hashimara.
6/Minato.
7/Nagato
8/Naruto/Sauske
9/Sauske/Naruto.
10/Itachi

As I said, different opinions but that doesn't mean you can't change my mind. Can you enlighten me?
 

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It's hard to discuss anything here since people will go apeshit over other people's opinions. :|
 
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