Who can beat SM Naruto?

Rokudaime Hokage Naruto

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So, how did he react to Obito? Was that intercepting with vision perception or using sensory skills?

Also, Tobirama literally has distinguished people apart from their chakra of villages and also analyzed Sharingan mutation with just sensory skills.

If you've got the scan of him reacting to Obito, I'd like to see it. Theres is a fine line here, Kishi put emphasis on SM perception skills; all you've got is that Tobirama reacted to a fast character.
 

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I admit I'm not sure about Ma and Pa but Naruto usually goes for clones right off the bat. I agree Itachi's genjutsu is a problem however it would be wrong of you to say 'knowing Itachi...' seen as Kishi could right it either way.

I don't believe it's wrong to say, itachi is a genjutsu fighter he tries to end his fights quickly with the use of genjutsu, saying he would try to get naruto into tysukuyomi right off the bat or a 3tomeo genjutsu is fair in my book.

But I agree the fight can go either way but I see itachi ending it before it gets out of hand.
 

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SM Naruto with these feats
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Here he uses about 50 kage bunshin, all in sage mode.

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I think only the likes of:
Obito (all forms)
Madara
Hashirama
Nagato
EMS Sasuke
DSM Kabuto
BM Minato

Can definitely beat him.

I can't see Tobirama doing it. Itachi gets mid diffed. Ohnoki and Gaara possess threats because of their flight but Naruto might be able to deal with that.
Deidara is a maybe with his C4/C0. Kisame gets beaten as he relied a lot on raw power and Kage Bunshin feats deal with suiton.

A problem would be Killer Bee and the TBB however if Naruto strikes first he has enough power to do the job.

What do you guys think?

Good post, spot on with the ones that can beat Naruto
 

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If you've got the scan of him reacting to Obito, I'd like to see it. Theres is a fine line here, Kishi put emphasis on SM perception skills; all you've got is that Tobirama reacted to a fast character.

Juubito was near instant. He was miles ahead of Raikage Ei, and Naruto barely reacted to the third Raikage.
 

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If you've got the scan of him reacting to Obito, I'd like to see it. Theres is a fine line here, Kishi put emphasis on SM perception skills; all you've got is that Tobirama reacted to a fast character.


Uh, I'm going mobile today, so can't. It should be basic knowledge of the current events already.

But in words, when Juubito, or I'll just say Obito, blitzed Hashirama and Tobirama, he put a mark on him as he explained how he was able to warp to Minato, Sasuke and Naruto when they were in danger.
 

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Uh, I'm going mobile today, so can't. It should be basic knowledge of the current events already.

But in words, when Juubito, or I'll just say Obito, blitzed Hashirama and Tobirama, he put a mark on him as he explained how he was able to warp to Minato, Sasuke and Naruto when they were in danger.

Actually no. Tobirama put a Hiraishin mark on his near instant foe along with three different paper bombs. This was against Juubito who no one knew of his speed, all the while catching his opponents off guard.
 

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I concede Tobirama if he has any notable edo tensei already PREPARED. However none of us can say for sure whether or not Itachi's susanoo tanks those attacks. I'm inclined to say it get obliterated, you say different which is fair enough.

However I'd like to point out that Itachi cannot use Susanoo for very long. Also Itachi's taijutsu didn't best KCM Naruto. SM Naruto is stronger and has Frog Kata, attacks which Itachi won't even be ready for. SM Naruto's is most likely stronger than Tsunade, so there is a similar situation with 1 punch gg.

You are very well indeed to your opinion.

Tobirama himself ftg, is already strong enough.

Itachi deflected every move kcm naruto had to offer in taijustu, also he was being controlled.

Madara has shown that a complete Susanoo can tank the juubi's Tenpachi...

I fail to see any technique Sage mode naruto has to break Susanoo.

May I remind you that a incomplete Susanoo was capable of crushing Danzo with a squeeze?

Didn't even mention the part where a single punch, turned Danzo into a blood fountain.

You can argue shadow clones if you like, but remember what happened the last time Naruto try to

Ambush itachi with shadow clones?

He took it out with two Kumai knives, and crow genjustu him.

Not only does he have to blind spots, but he can see chakra 360•

Just a little something you should remember too.
 

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Actually no. Tobirama put a Hiraishin mark on his near instant foe along with three different paper bombs. This was against Juubito who no one knew of his speed, all the while catching his opponents off guard.


Didn't I just say this though? ._.
 

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You are very well indeed to your opinion.

Tobirama himself ftg, is already strong enough.

Itachi deflected every move kcm naruto had to offer in taijustu, also he was being controlled.

Madara has shown that a complete Susanoo can tank the juubi's Tenpachi...

I fail to see any technique Sage mode naruto has to break Susanoo.

May I remind you that a incomplete Susanoo was capable of crushing Danzo with a squeeze?

Didn't even mention the part where a single punch, turned Danzo into a blood fountain.

You can argue shadow clones if you like, but remember what happened the last time Naruto try to

Ambush itachi with shadow clones?


He took it out with two Kumai knives, and crow genjustu him.

Not only does he have to blind spots, but he can see chakra 360•

Just a little something you should remember too.

Oodama Rasenshuriken/ cho oodama rasen tarengan destroy susanoo

he doesn't have 360 vision

that was without Sage Mode

Sage mode Taijutsu>KCM Taijutsu
 

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Uh, I'm going mobile today, so can't. It should be basic knowledge of the current events already.

But in words, when Juubito, or I'll just say Obito, blitzed Hashirama and Tobirama, he put a mark on him as he explained how he was able to warp to Minato, Sasuke and Naruto when they were in danger.

I still think the Kage Bunshin advantage Naruto has gives him the victory - shoot me.
 

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Oodama Rasenshuriken/ cho oodama rasen tarengan destroy susanoo

he doesn't have 360 vision

that was without Sage Mode

Sage mode Taijutsu>KCM Taijutsu

Susanoo tanking Tenpachii >>>> Any sage mode techniques naruto has to offer.

360, dude just look at his Kunai training.

Or taking out nagato's six path vision

Even if it wasn't sage mode.

He still took out two shadow clones, with a Kunai knives.

Nothing implies that sage mode makes your shadow clones more durable...

Kcm naruto is way faster, and I believe that if it wasn't for the thousands of clones and fighting the 3rd Raikage...

That whole naruto getting caught thing wouldn't have have happened.
 

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Susanoo tanking Tenpachii >>>> Any sage mode techniques naruto has to offer.

1. Madara's susanoo
2. He didn't take the full impact of the blast
360, dude just look at his Kunai training.

Or taking out nagato's six path vision

Even if it wasn't sage mode.

He still took out two shadow clones, with a Kunai knives.

That doesn't imply that he has no blind spots
Nothing implies that sage mode makes your shadow clones more durable...

So they get all the other benefits BUT durability how convenient

Kcm naruto is way faster, and I believe that if it wasn't for the thousands of clones and fighting the 3rd Raikage..


That whole naruto getting caught thing wouldn't have have happened.

Well yeah I'll give you that since it's comment sense
 

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1. Madara's susanoo
2. He didn't take the full impact of the blast


That doesn't imply that he has no blind spots


So they get all the other benefits BUT durability how convenient



Well yeah I'll give you that since it's comment sense

1) No different, it's not PS

2) Yes, he was right next to the bijuu

3) ya, it practically does give you know blind spot

4) Sagemode gives durability?

Manga scan or hault yourself from the assumptions.

One shrina tensei ended a sagemode clone, yet regular clones were able to resist the last one.

See the inconsistency :|
 

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Alot of ppl
Minato
Hashirama
Madara
MS Sasuke
Itachi
Tobirama
Kabuto
Danzo
A
Just to name a few.
Gaara & Kakashi has a chance
 

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1) No different, it's not PS

Still not the same susanoo

2) Yes, he was right next to the bijuu
The ten tails wouldn't use it on himself


3) ya, it practically does give you know blind spot

uhm ok

4) Sagemode gives durability?

Manga scan or hault yourself from the assumptions.

One shrina tensei ended a sagemode clone, yet regular clones were able to resist the last one.

See the inconsistency :|

Well SM naruto fell on a pile of stalagmites and it didn't even pierce his skin and he was able touse a point blank one without breaking his arms

Pretty good durability feats
 

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I'm going with his post.

If you think he stood chance against Pain, you're wrong. He didn't have Deva Path for long time. Also, the versatility of techniques Pain used compared to previous fight such as Jiraiya, Pain was holding off a lot even against Kurama.

I think it is justified to say that, however no matter what Deva said, by himself he did not stand much of change against 9 tailed kurama.
 

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I'm going with his post.

If you think he stood chance against Pain, you're wrong. He didn't have Deva Path for long time. Also, the versatility of techniques Pain used compared to previous fight such as Jiraiya, Pain was holding off a lot even against Kurama.

He wasn't holding back he was only handicapped for part of the match

he was at full power as soon as his powers returned
 
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