Who can beat SM Naruto?

[Vandenre1ch]

Alive minato, Danzo Jiraiya, Killer Bee, Itachi, Tobirama, Orochimaru(edos restricted) don't beat him. Then you've listed each character twice who does beat him.

When I remove the extra characters:

-Obito
-Madara
-Hashirama
-Sasuke
-Nagato
-Minato
-Nagato
-Kabuto
-Tobirama
-Itachi
-Killer Bee
-Hiruzen
-Orochimaru
-Jiraiya
-Danzo
-Ay
-Onoki
-Gaara
-Kisame

They all still beat SM Naruto. Your giving SM Naruto too much credit.

 

[VongolaX]

Nagato and Sasuke I see as high diff.

Tobirama doesn't have the fire power to deal with multiple clones. Naruto has hazard perception to deal with FTG sneak attacks. Also Tobirama won't know which clone is the real one. I'm also inclined to say SM Naruto clone> Tobirama in taijutsu.

Itachi's susanoo is destroyed by either of the techniques i posted in OP. Itachi can only use his 1 shot techniques 3 times. (Ama and Tsu) Kage bunshin and threat perception help Naruto avoid. Again SM Naruto>Itachi in taijutsu.

Alive Minato, lacks fire power and kage bunshin stomp.

Killer Bee is a nah.

Tobirama has ftg and Edo tensei


Itachi's taijustu was good enough to best kcm naruto and bee while being controlled.
Final a Susanoo is tanking both attacks...

The constant crow genjustu that itachi uses will beat Sage mode Naruto.

(He fell for it twice, and it wasn't even Tsukyomi)

Sorry, but Itachi's Susanoo could easily beat Sage mode Naruto.

I do agree that Gaara doesn't win

 

[Penguin]

This was only because the mark Minato put on Obito from the Kyuubi attack on Konoha was still there. Otherwise Minato/Tobirama wouldn't be able to get close enough to put a mark on SM Naruto if he has full intel and wanted to avoid it.

If Tobirama had full intel he would use Gojō Kibaku Fuda. Naruto cannot kill an edo with Frog Kata and he is not dodging the explosion.

 

[Sea Of Thy Soul]

lol @ Minato beating SM Naruto

Naruto SM would sense that guys FTG from a mile away and clone feint. Make him eat Odama FRS

 

[Prince Charles]

Itachi can beat sm naruto, his mastery in the art of genjutsu is too dangerous for naruto without the help of kurama.

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

Tobirama has ftg and Edo tensei


Itachi's taijustu was good enough to best kcm naruto and bee while being controlled.
Final a Susanoo is tanking both attacks...

The constant crow genjustu that itachi uses will beat Sage mode Naruto.

(He fell for it twice, and it wasn't even Tsukyomi)

Sorry, but Itachi's Susanoo could easily beat Sage mode Naruto.

I do agree that Gaara doesn't win

I concede Tobirama if he has any notable edo tensei already PREPARED. However none of us can say for sure whether or not Itachi's susanoo tanks those attacks. I'm inclined to say it get obliterated, you say different which is fair enough.

However I'd like to point out that Itachi cannot use Susanoo for very long. Also Itachi's taijutsu didn't best KCM Naruto. SM Naruto is stronger and has Frog Kata, attacks which Itachi won't even be ready for. SM Naruto's is most likely stronger than Tsunade, so there is a similar situation with 1 punch gg.

 

[Sir Blades]

If Tobirama had full intel he would use Gojō Kibaku Fuda. Naruto cannot kill an edo with Frog Kata and he is not dodging the explosion.

That attack is beast. But i agree with what you just stated.

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

Itachi can beat sm naruto, his mastery in the art of genjutsu is too dangerous for naruto without the help of kurama.

Frog summons such as Ma and Pa release him from genjutsu. Also how does Itachi know which Naruto to put under a genjutsu when he has 50 or so kage bunshins. If one goes under, the other 49 counter.

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

If Tobirama had full intel he would use Gojō Kibaku Fuda. Naruto cannot kill an edo with Frog Kata and he is not dodging the explosion.

How does tobirama know which Naruto is the real one out of 50 clones....

Also if Naruto is close to tobirama, he gets taken out in his own explosion.

 

[Penguin]

Frog summons such as Ma and Pa release him from genjutsu. Also how does Itachi know which Naruto to put under a genjutsu when he has 50 or so kage bunshins. If one goes under, the other 49 counter.

Lol last time I checked, Naruto does not know the ritual for Shima and Fukasaku.

Minato destroys SM Naruto mid diff.

How does tobirama know which Naruto is the real one out of 50 clones....

The explosion was bigger than Bijuu sized Juubi clones. It literally dwarfed them. His edo could just mark the ground in the middle of the clones with paper bombs and then everything is blown up.

 

[UchihaNagashi]

This was only because the mark Minato put on Obito from the Kyuubi attack on Konoha was still there. Otherwise Minato/Tobirama wouldn't be able to get close enough to put a mark on SM Naruto if he has full intel and wanted to avoid it.

You're making it seem like Naruto has the advantage of sensing and speed over Tobirama, although Tobirama is an excellent sensor, most likely greater than Naruto. Also, his reaction speed is top notch as he reacted to Jinchūriki Obito.

Tobirama with his automatically faster speed (Hiraishin), Bunshin advantage as well as resurrection and hard Suiton beats him.​

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

Lol last time I checked, Naruto does not know the ritual for Shima and Fukasaku.

Minato destroys SM Naruto mid diff.

Haha this is going to go in circles.

Can we agree to disagree?

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

You're making it seem like Naruto has the advantage of sensing and speed over Tobirama, although Tobirama is an excellent sensor, most likely greater than Naruto. Also, his reaction speed is top notch as he reacted to Jinchūriki Obito.

Tobirama with his automatically faster speed (Hiraishin), Bunshin advantage as well as resurrection and hard Suiton beats him.​

Hiriashin doesn't work unless he has prepared the seals.

SM Naruto is more likely a better sensor than Tobirama. Yes Tobirama can sense peoples chakra, but no where does it say that he has danger perception. Naruto clearly has the bunshin advantage here.

 

[Prince Charles]

Frog summons such as Ma and Pa release him from genjutsu. Also how does Itachi know which Naruto to put under a genjutsu when he has 50 or so kage bunshins. If one goes under, the other 49 counter.

Ma and Pa are not ordinary summons, naruto doesnt know the ritual to summon Ma and Pa unless im mistaken? I do admit clones would be a problem but knowing itachi he would most likely try to finish it before it came to the mass spam of clones via genjutsu at the beginning of the fight.

 

[Penguin]

Haha this is going to go in circles.

Can we agree to disagree?

This isn't going in circles. I am straightening this damn circle into a line.

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I think this kills 200+ clones. >_>

Anyways, Minato wins via Kage Bunshin and kunai. I will find a debate on it and mooch on the points.

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

Ma and Pa are not ordinary summons, naruto doesnt know the ritual to summon Ma and Pa unless im mistaken? I do admit clones would be a problem but knowing itachi he would most likely try to finish it before it came to the mass spam of clones via genjutsu at the beginning of the fight.

I admit I'm not sure about Ma and Pa but Naruto usually goes for clones right off the bat. I agree Itachi's genjutsu is a problem however it would be wrong of you to say 'knowing Itachi...' seen as Kishi could right it either way.

 

[BlackFlame44]

Alive minato, Danzo Jiraiya, Killer Bee, Itachi, Tobirama, Orochimaru(edos restricted) don't beat him. Then you've listed each character twice who does beat him.

Bee TBB GG dude

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

This isn't going in circles. I am straightening this damn circle into a line.

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I think this kills 200+ clones. >_>

Anyways, Minato wins via Kage Bunshin and kunai. I will find a debate on it and mooch on the points.

If Naruto is within 100m of Tobirama when that blast goes off, Tobirama dies too and we get a stalemate.

 

[Penguin]

If Naruto is within 100m of Tobirama when that blast goes off, Tobirama dies too and we get a stalemate.

Or a clone can FTG Tobirama away. ._.

But that is besides the point. I am done here for a bit.

 

[UchihaNagashi]

Hiriashin doesn't work unless he has prepared the seals.

SM Naruto is more likely a better sensor than Tobirama. Yes Tobirama can sense peoples chakra, but no where does it say that he has danger perception. Naruto clearly has the bunshin advantage here.

So, how did he react to Obito? Was that intercepting with vision perception or using sensory skills?

Also, Tobirama literally has distinguished people apart from their chakra of villages and also analyzed Sharingan mutation with just sensory skills.​