Tobirama vs Mnato

[Murasame]

Location: Masked Man vs Minato
intel: full knowledge
restrictions: KCM/BM
conditions: tobirama has 2 edos
distance: 20 meters

 

[Optimistic]

Minato takes this.

 

[Ababeel]

Minato wins, obviously. He's an upgraded version of Tobirama.

As we all know that Minato's teleportation jutsus are better than that of Tobirama.

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, and we know from the previous scans and the fact that Minato arrived first that he is the fastest as his hype and feats clearly stated.

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That's automatically makes Minato's FTG level 1 & 2, Goshun Mawashi are also better than that of Tobirama. Minato still has his long named jutsu, but unfortunately we still don't know what it does.

As for defense

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. On the other hand,

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,

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,

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. The different is clear, no?

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but,

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Both have the clones, the 4 suns barrier, and their finger sensing ability. So, they are pretty much equal in that regard. As for Tobirama's ET, Minato can counter that with his sealing jutsus, such as the

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, or the

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, or

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, but

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Also, Minato's Rasengan is stronger than Tobirama's Water Dragon.
And he still has the frogs summons...etc

Besides the jutsus, Minato has also better feats in the 3rd and 4th war. Against Obito & Kurama, A&B...etc.

 

[Bronze]

Minato kills Tobirama, and commit suicide as he seals Edo.

 

[Shura]

Tobirama wins, in my opinion.​

 

[Minator93]

Minato takes this U_U

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Tobirama wins in my opinion.

 

[miromiro]

Tobirama wins.

 

[KidGamer65]

lol, Minato clearly wins this.

 

[Touken]

If he has Edo, Tobirama wins. Him and his kunai blow up to kingdom come.

 

[KidGamer65]

If he has Edo, Tobirama wins. Him and his kunai blow up to kingdom come.

Only if it could hit him, which it most definitely cannot do.

 

[Touken]

Only if it could hit him, which it most definitely cannot do.

He covers a really small area with his marked kunai and thus all his marked kunai are in the blast radius.

 

[KidGamer65]

He covers a really small area with his marked kunai and thus all his marked kunai are in the blast radius.

Haha, no. He covers what ever range he needs to cover since he can actually throw his marked Kunai around, why would he only be able to cover a really small area? Why would he cover a really small area with intel on Tobirama's technique...lol.

All he needs to do is simply toss his Kunai out of the explosion range and he's set.


How in the world is he even going to get tags on Minato in the first place? He needed to restrain Juubito in order to

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on him for them to explode. Getting them on a mindless foe is much much easier than getting them on a sane man who can also teleport.

 

[Touken]

Haha, no. He covers what ever range he needs to cover since he can actually throw his marked Kunai around, why would he only be able to cover a really small area? Why would he cover a really small area with intel on Tobirama's technique...lol.


All he needs to do is simply toss his Kunai out of the explosion range and he's set.

Didn't know they both had full intel in this battle, but ok. You're assuming he can throw a marked kunai that far, which I seriously doubt considering the explosion dwarfed a Juubi fodder clone which came to be the size of Gamakichi, who's just a tad smaller than Bijuu. The explosion then

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So it's several explosions that dwarf Bijuu. Not to mention the fact he has 2 Edo in this battle.

How in the world is he even going to get tags on Minato in the first place? He needed to restrain Juubito in order to

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on him for them to explode. Getting them on a mindless foe is much much easier than getting them on a sane man who can also teleport.

They work like normal tags, they don't need to hit the target. In Juubito's case they had to because obviously, it's the Juubi's host and the 3 Edo Hokage had already established he was much stronger than Hashirama.

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- they weren't taking any chances with Juubito.

 

[KidGamer65]

Didn't know they both had full intel in this battle, but ok. You're assuming he can throw a marked kunai that far, which I seriously doubt considering the explosion dwarfed a Juubi fodder clone which came to be the size of Gamakichi, who's just a tad smaller than Bijuu. The explosion then

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So it's several explosions that dwarf Bijuu. Not to mention the fact he has 2 Edo in this battle.

Yup, its in the OP.


1. Where is it shown that the Juubi fodder is the same size as Gamakichi? The exact opposite is

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. Gamakichi dwarfs that Juubi fodder clone, and the explosion didn't dwarf him either, that's an exaggeration.

2. Hiruzen managed to

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area

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. Minato can easily do the same as he is faster than Hiruzen is, and he was

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of Tobirama, Minato is 20 meters away. Don't say that Tobirama warned him, because Minato will recognize the moment he tries to do it since he has full intel. Him having two of them only makes a small difference considering they are in the same position, if Minato can get to the distance Hiruzen was at then putting another explosion in the same area as the first one wouldn't be enough to reach him.

The fact that the explosion also continues to travel on only makes it easier for Minato to evade. Then he can just set up his Kunai at different points and that's pretty much the end of Gojo Kibakufuda ever getting him.

3. Or he uses S/T Barrier to suck in the explosion, if its possible.

They work like normal tags, they don't need to hit the target. In Juubito's case they had to because obviously, it's the Juubi's host and the 3 Edo Hokage had already established he was much stronger than Hashirama.

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- they weren't taking any chances with Juubito.

Still, as shown above, Minato can get away from the explosion one way or another.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Yup, its in the OP.


1. Where is it shown that the Juubi fodder is the same size as Gamakichi? The exact opposite is

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. Gamakichi dwarfs that Juubi fodder clone, and the explosion didn't dwarf him either, that's an exaggeration.

2. Hiruzen managed to

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area

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. Minato can easily do the same as he is faster than Hiruzen is, and he was

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of Tobirama, Minato is 20 meters away. Don't say that Tobirama warned him, because Minato will recognize the moment he tries to do it since he has full intel. Him having two of them only makes a small difference considering they are in the same position, if Minato can get to the distance Hiruzen was at then putting another explosion in the same area as the first one wouldn't be enough to reach him.

The fact that the explosion also continues to travel on only makes it easier for Minato to evade. Then he can just set up his Kunai at different points and that's pretty much the end of Gojo Kibakufuda ever getting him.

3. Or he uses S/T Barrier to suck in the explosion, if its possible.



Still, as shown above, Minato can get away from the explosion one way or another.

Addressing the size argument; although their height varies, most, if not all of the Juubi clones we later see are the same size as, if not bigger than Gamikichi. [

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] The only reason it looks like they're smaller is because of just how far away Minato teleported them.

Considering Minato being able to escape; considering it's full intel I agree Minato will be able to escape it provided he isn't stuck by Tobirama or his Zombies.

 

[Touken]

1. Where is it shown that the Juubi fodder is the same size as Gamakichi? The exact opposite is

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. Gamakichi dwarfs that Juubi fodder clone, and the explosion didn't dwarf him either, that's an exaggeration.

A bit of an exaggeration but that explosion made the Juubi clone look tiny. Gamakichi looked bigger because he was closer to the point of view Kishi makes us look at the manga from. But anyway,

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Here's another showing their size:

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2. Hiruzen managed to

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area

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. Minato can easily do the same as he is faster than Hiruzen is, and he was

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of Tobirama, Minato is 20 meters away. Don't say that Tobirama warned him, because Minato will recognize the moment he tries to do it since he has full intel. Him having two of them only makes a small difference considering they are in the same position, if Minato can get to the distance Hiruzen was at then putting another explosion in the same area as the first one wouldn't be enough to reach him.

The fact that the explosion also continues to travel on only makes it easier for Minato to evade. Then he can just set up his Kunai at different points and that's pretty much the end of Gojo Kibakufuda ever getting him.

Hiruzen had 2 pages to get away because Tobirama was talking and using the technique on his own body which obviously takes longer, but you've already said that Minato's faster so this shouldn't be a problem for him. You've also said there'd be no point having 2 exploding Edos in the same area, so why would Tobirama do that? Once Tobirama has had 1 Edo explode, the marked kunai are in the Edo's blast radius so using FTG would be out of the question, so Minato will have to resort to Shunshin. Tobirama can either then intercept Minato while he's using Shunshin to get away or he can have the other Edo explode in the direction Minato is moving in. Minato can possibly evade that too, but he'll be very limited in the directions he can go, because even though the Edo explode in only one direction they still cover a very large area. Tobirama can then intercept Minato easily if not, it becomes a 1v1 where Minato has no more kunai to utilize as he

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and I'm fairly certain Tobirama can beat him if Minato doesn't have the kunai advantage.

3. Or he uses S/T Barrier to suck in the explosion, if its possible.

Fair point but that only covers one explosion.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

3. Or he uses S/T Barrier to suck in the explosion, if its possible.

As the explosions are infinite Minato would essentially have to stand there until he runs out if chakra. I suppose if he used a Kage Bushin instead it'd be more plausible.

 

[Ababeel]

Minato covered all this area around the Juubi to put his Kunais, how is that a small area?

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[Touken]

Minato covered all this area around the Juubi to put his Kunais, how is that a small area?

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Unless he has reasons to, he normally covers a small area:

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