Only way to defeat Madara

[Shunsin no Shisui]

Maddy would stomp Izuna in under 5 secs lol

And there's no way Izuna has a secret technique that Madara doesn't know of since he has Izuna's eyes

Who ever said all of Izuna's secret techniques exist in his eyes. Madara wouldn't dare touch his beloved brother anyway. If anything of the sort happens, then he'll just side with SA and give them intel on any other weaknesses he has. Lol I doubt Kishi would fail with Izuna though. :eww: It would just be a waste of manga pages. :|

But he wouldn't hurt his beloved brother.. this would result in the same way that Itachi vs hebi sasuke ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Precisely, my friend.

What if hashirama's wife appears as an edo ofc and she TnJ madara. lmfao!

lol if that happens, she'll more than likely run to Hashirama first since he's the one who's cracking up(literally). Lol

10/10 thread.
Was going to ignore it but I read. Was noice.

Thanks, dude.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

"I believe this is the perfect moment for Kishi to show us that 'Love' is in fact truly greater that 'Power'"

see this ............... this is where you lost me :erm: but, if that's the kind of series's/scenario's you like watching then sure, let the power of "love" thing win.

 

[Da Best Ever]

As we all know, Madara is on God-level and soo OP that even Kishi is struggling to find a way to end him, so I thought why not help out Kishi by giving him some ideas. That's the purpose of this thread so please, don't hate.

Characters who can no longer be used to defeat Madara

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The only man who could stop Madara was Hashirama, as clearly stated in this manga scan. [

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]. Although as we saw in the recent chapters, that doesn't seem like the case any more and this manga scan speaks for itself. [

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] Madara is seen absorbing Hashirama's powers and leaving him in a weak and helpless state. :eww:

Hashirama was a man given the title "God of Shinobi" which implied that he was the most powerful of all shinobi. It was only until Obito became the jinchuriki of the Jubi that Hashirama officially claimed that another shinobi had become even more powerful than him. [

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] However, Obito is also currently in a weakened state and almost under Madara's control through black Zetsu. [

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] :|

Minato is one-handed and busy along with Kakashi in taking down Madara's other half; black Zetsu and Tobirama along with Hiruzen both have their hands tied in attempting to destroy the tree. :yeah: The Five Kage's were left in a critical condition and there's no way they would go against Madara again otherwise this time around, they would certainly be killed and their bodies left to feed the dogs. Lol

Naruto and Sasuke along with Konoha 11 seem too inexperienced to defeat Madara. They are below Kage level to begin with and besides, they already did what they could against Obito. Anything else from them would probably just be an asspull. Also not to mention Naruto has Kurama taken from him so he would surely be exhausted and weakened. As for Sasuke, well he did a good job by using his special ability Amaterasu but the moment Madara absorbed it, he became useless against fighting him. hmm

There are also a few more fodders from different villages who would be ineffectual and only waste panels of the manga. :heh:

My theory

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I believe this is the perfect moment for Kishi to show us that 'Love' is in fact truly greater that 'Power'. It should occur to most of us by now that defeating another God-level shinobi through power is pointless. Just forget about new powerups and new abilities. I personally have thought up of the perfect ending for Madara Uchiha, and this is the logic I have used.

Well to begin with, we all know that the weakness of Uchiha is 'Love' and going back to what Tobirama said, they do not know how to control 'Love' and it turns into a bigger hatred. [

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] Well what if Kishi makes it so that Madara's defeat happens through his family. The only other weakness of Madara would be his family members; his father, his mother and his brothers. It would be a bit of an asspull to resurrect is whole family but what if Izuna is somehow revived through Edo Tensei? o.o

I think 'Edo Izuna' would be an awsome idea since firstly it would allow him to have more screen time, secondly we could see some more of his powers(I mean we haven't seen any abilities or feats from Izuna, to be honest U_U) and finally it could result in Madara's demise. Maybe Izuna could TnJ Madara and ask him to think about what he's doing. Of course, Izuna himself would more than likely be against the plan of getting rid of the current world and creating an illusion to replace it that is controlled by one person. :eww: Also it probably would be a good sight for Sasuke to see, another Uchiha who doesn't want the current world to end and perhaps Izuna may even entrust Sasuke with something important. Although if Madara is not affected in the end, then it would be awsome to see Izuna perform a unique Uchiha jutsu or something that could leave Madara in a near-death state, maybe leaving the rest of the shinobi to finish him off. Izuna's unique Uchiha jutsu could be something like Izanami or Kotoamatsukami?

Well people, let me know what you think?

if izuna had something powerful enough to beat madara then he wouldnt have died to tobirama...u said u were going to use logic but u didnt...and nobody can talk madara out of this he is set on his ways and has been dreaming of this since he was a kid

 

[Da Best Ever]

Who ever said all of Izuna's secret techniques exist in his eyes. Madara wouldn't dare touch his beloved brother anyway. If anything of the sort happens, then he'll just side with SA and give them intel on any other weaknesses he has. Lol I doubt Kishi would fail with Izuna though. :eww: It would just be a waste of manga pages. :|



Precisely, my friend.



lol if that happens, she'll more than likely run to Hashirama first since he's the one who's cracking up(literally). Lol



Thanks, dude.

how can izuna give the SA intel on madara's weaknesses??? the last time he saw madara he was givivng him his eye, izuna doesnt knw ems madara's power, he doesnt knw madara has mokuton, he doesnt knw madara has sage mode, he deosn knw madara has the rinnegan, and izuna doesnt knw how to counter those so what can he tell them about madara...as of now the only person who knws madara the most is hashirama...

now izuna can try to tnj madara but this has been madara;s goal since he was a child, i understand juubito and nagato being tnj because they were basically carrying out madara's plans and were brainwashed, madara aint going for that, and hashirama is the same as naruto but even hashirama couldnt reason with him so kishi is going to do something but not that...but nice theory

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

"I believe this is the perfect moment for Kishi to show us that 'Love' is in fact truly greater that 'Power'"

see this ............... this is where you lost me :erm: but, if that's the kind of series's/scenario's you like watching then sure, let the power of "love" thing win.

I see what you mean but that's the kind of manga Naruto is bro. :yeah: It's the type of manga in which good prevails in the end thanks to love and there's not just gore and bloody/violence shit where the villains rules in the end. U_U

if izuna had something powerful enough to beat madara then he wouldnt have died to tobirama...u said u were going to use logic but u didnt...and nobody can talk madara out of this he is set on his ways and has been dreaming of this since he was a kid

Then EMS wouldn't exist. :| It's PnJ bro. Kishi had to end Izuna's character, in order to build on Madara's character. The same thing happened with Sasuke, in which this case it was Itachi's character coming to an end. Although he managed to continue on and become an edo becomes his fanbase was adequate for Kishi's liking. :eww: Also not to mention, Tobirama himself is not a weak character. hmm

 

[Lightning Release]

OP did you really say Naruto and Sasuke are BELOW "kage level?!"

Lmfao. What a joke.

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

how can izuna give the SA intel on madara's weaknesses??? the last time he saw madara he was givivng him his eye, izuna doesnt knw ems madara's power, he doesnt knw madara has mokuton, he doesnt knw madara has sage mode, he deosn knw madara has the rinnegan, and izuna doesnt knw how to counter those so what can he tell them about madara...as of now the only person who knws madara the most is hashirama...

now izuna can try to tnj madara but this has been madara;s goal since he was a child, i understand juubito and nagato being tnj because they were basically carrying out madara's plans and were brainwashed, madara aint going for that, and hashirama is the same as naruto but even hashirama couldnt reason with him so kishi is going to do something but not that...but nice theory

How can he not? :| Izuna is a character we hardly know anything about. He was a man stated to be around the same level as Madara. Well, you've seen how powerful and intelligent Madara is. Besides, it's Kishi's character and he can always show us something new and interesting with character's who've not been shown much at all. Izuna may not be able to use his MS powers to defeat Madara since Madara has his eyes, but Izuna could very well have knowledge on Mokuton, Rinnegan and other abilities. He must have the read the Uchiha stone tablet even if a little. Hashirama, Tobirama and the Senju Clan were Izuna and his clan's enemies. So he's bound to have intel on them and other jutsu. U_U

Izuna is also not just an ordinary person but Madara's brother, his own flesh and blood. Hashirama also said to Sasuke that Madara had more love for Izuna than Itachi had for Sasuke. What Sasuke states in this scan also suggests that Izuna would not have wanted what Madara is doing now. [

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] Therefore he would clearly oppose Madara in his plans. hmm

Nice thread, I don't mind a TnJ as long as its not from Naruto. I don't think we will see Izuna because that will lead to something with Tobirama and Hashirama and wayy too much talking.

Do not worry. Kishi would have ways to shorten things out and not to bore his fans.

 

[Namikun]

Yeah that'd be good man!

 

[Imperius]

Isn't such a bad idea, then only Sasuke needs to be TnJ'd, and then every major villian in this series have all officially been beaten by TnJ.

 

[StraawHat]

All right. My theory is this. Naruto will die.

Madara will successfully become the SO6P and activate the Eye of the moon plan while everyone's hopes are crushed. However. While in this astral world or genjutsu world or whatever the people who are now enjoying their lives will come across the swing set Naruto used to swing on. This moment will trigger flashbacks for them all and they'll remember his feelings during the war and then begin to feel in their heart that they want Naruto their friend/saviour back because of how hard he worked and all the suffering he went through, their collected emotions will form Naruto inside this world where he will then battle Madara and defeat him, destroying the Tsukoyomi world and allowing Naruto's "Essence" to return to his body and continue the fight using his comrades emotions and love he'll create his most devastating new attack, and activate sage mode and rush Madara, with the aid of shadow clones managing to attack him landing several blows with frog Kumite although getting blown away several times he'll keep getting up despite his injuries as he knows he cannot lose, he will keep charging Madara until eventually over-powering him with his shadow clones landing an attack similar to the Uzumaki barrage in part one and then with a final blow he'll strike Madara into the ground and come crashing down at full speed with his new technique, the heart rasengan, a rasengan powered by the emotions of him and all his friends feelings which combined with senjutsu chakra will land a devastating blow on Madara, this blow being enough to allow Naruto to get into a chakra struggle with Madara and he'll remember all the people who have died, sacrificed themselves and all those he has ever met and the alliance and finally with 1 massive pull he'll tear the tailed beasts from Madara, defeating Madara once and for all. Oh and with this soundtrack playing throughout. (Strong and Strike)

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I can even script this fight as I know how it pretty much goes XD but that's my theory

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

Yeah that'd be good man!

Thank you for taking the time, my friend.

Isn't such a bad idea, then only Sasuke needs to be TnJ'd, and then every major villian in this series have all officially been beaten by TnJ.

Thanks dude, although I doubt TnJ is gonna work on Sasuke. I don't exactly know the reason why but I just don't see it happening tbh. =D

All right. My theory is this. Naruto will die.

Madara will successfully become the SO6P and activate the Eye of the moon plan while everyone's hopes are crushed. However. While in this astral world or genjutsu world or whatever the people who are now enjoying their lives will come across the swing set Naruto used to swing on. This moment will trigger flashbacks for them all and they'll remember his feelings during the war and then begin to feel in their heart that they want Naruto their friend/saviour back because of how hard he worked and all the suffering he went through, their collected emotions will form Naruto inside this world where he will then battle Madara and defeat him, destroying the Tsukoyomi world and allowing Naruto's "Essence" to return to his body and continue the fight using his comrades emotions and love he'll create his most devastating new attack, and activate sage mode and rush Madara, with the aid of shadow clones managing to attack him landing several blows with frog Kumite although getting blown away several times he'll keep getting up despite his injuries as he knows he cannot lose, he will keep charging Madara until eventually over-powering him with his shadow clones landing an attack similar to the Uzumaki barrage in part one and then with a final blow he'll strike Madara into the ground and come crashing down at full speed with his new technique, the heart rasengan, a rasengan powered by the emotions of him and all his friends feelings which combined with senjutsu chakra will land a devastating blow on Madara, this blow being enough to allow Naruto to get into a chakra struggle with Madara and he'll remember all the people who have died, sacrificed themselves and all those he has ever met and the alliance and finally with 1 massive pull he'll tear the tailed beasts from Madara, defeating Madara once and for all. Oh and with this soundtrack playing throughout. (Strong and Strike)

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I can even script this fight as I know how it pretty much goes XD but that's my theory

That's a very interesting theory, bro. xd It could actually work although I could add something. Lol It would be even better if the real So6ps comes as a spectre or something and gives Naruto some power once he's somehow revived. I agree with your theory as I personally would like to see Mugen Tsukuyomi taking place. You deserve pos+ rep dude. Also just one other thing, please change the soundtrack as that would be too comical and child-like. =D

 

[VolatileSoul]

First, Naruto and Sasuke don't lack experience. Both have beating Ninja with a crap tonne more "experience" than they have. Izuna does not have enough relevance. He hasn't even been named in the manga. When Madara is defeated, he will probably reminisce about his brother, but it is unlikely that Izuna shows up as a character.