[Debate] Is the Death Penalty necessary?

[Αizen]

I for one don't think so but...most people would say well what would you do if it was a family member?
Well I'd be sad, angry, and devastated but I definitely wouldn't think it's right take another mans life as punishment.
I do think they should rot in prison for the rest of there lives but definitely not death by lethal Injection.

Your thoughts?

 

[RoguePatriot]

Death penalty is definitely necessary. If they didn't care about another persons life why should you care a out theirs?

 

[Αizen]

Death penalty is definitely necessary. If they didn't care about another persons life why should you care a out theirs?

You are right but the point to teach them a lesson eye for an eye but, if he's dead what lesson will he learn?
I think prison is the perfect place to learn that lesson.

 

[Meee]

I say so, Hell it should be used more than it actually is.

 

[Loki Helcast]

i say no to death penalty but yes to torture nuthing beats torture remember the most terrible, intractable, legacy of torture is the killing of desire - that is , of curiosity, of the impulse for connection and meaning-making, of the capacity for mutuality, of the tolerance for ambiguity and ambivalence. For these patients, to know another mind is unbearable. To connect with another is irrelevant. They are entrapped in what was born(e) during their trauma, as they perpetuate the erasure of meaning, re-enact the dynamics of annihilation through sadomasochistic, narcissistic, paranoid, or self-deadening modes of relating, and mobilize their agency toward warding off mutuality, goodness, hope and connection. In brief, they live to prove death. And it is this perversion of agency and desire that constitutes the deepest post-traumatic injury, and the most invisible and pernicious of human-rights violations......

so to me mental torture is best, leave them alive to suffer the consequences of there actions.................so im a little bit evil XD

 

[Αizen]

I say so, Hell it should be used more than it actually is.

What would you accomplish by doing it?
He dies that's it? ...I'm not saying that he deserves to live but what I'm saying is that...who are we to judge whether are not he lives or dies. The state executes him, then we're no better than he is.

 

[ekichi onizuka]

You are right but the point to teach them a lesson eye for an eye but, if he's dead what lesson will he learn?
I think prison is the perfect place to learn that lesson.

most of the people never learn their lesson,people may grow up and all but sometimes they will still behave like chlidren

 

[xnejix2]

You bring up valid points

 

[Meee]

What would you accomplish by doing it?
He dies that's it? ...I'm not saying that he deserves to live but what I'm saying is that...who are we to judge whether are not he lives or dies. The state executes him, then we're no better than he is.

Id prevent him from doing that shit again, That's what id accomplish

No different from judging whether he gets locked up or not at least with death it prevents escape, more crime and doesn't waste tax money.

 

[sasuke007]

I don't think any country should execute it's citizens, if the offender is found guilty then turn him over to the other victims
(family members) etc. etc. if the family don't have it in them to torture and execute the guilty then the state should lock him away for eternity

 

[Αizen]

i say no to death penalty but yes to torture nuthing beats torture remember the most terrible, intractable, legacy of torture is the killing of desire - that is , of curiosity, of the impulse for connection and meaning-making, of the capacity for mutuality, of the tolerance for ambiguity and ambivalence. For these patients, to know another mind is unbearable. To connect with another is irrelevant. They are entrapped in what was born(e) during their trauma, as they perpetuate the erasure of meaning, re-enact the dynamics of annihilation through sadomasochistic, narcissistic, paranoid, or self-deadening modes of relating, and mobilize their agency toward warding off mutuality, goodness, hope and connection. In brief, they live to prove death. And it is this perversion of agency and desire that constitutes the deepest post-traumatic injury, and the most invisible and pernicious of human-rights violations......

so to me mental torture is best, leave them alive to suffer the consequences of there actions.................so im a little bit evil XD

I believe you lol

 

[sasuke007]

if some pervert tortured and molested my kid I would get nothing but pain waiting 20 plus years for the axxhole to get lethal injection
I'd rather take care of it myself

 

[Αizen]

Id prevent him from doing that shit again, That's what id accomplish

No different from judging whether he gets locked up or not at least with death it prevents escape, more crime and doesn't waste tax money.

Okay, you make a point.

Well yeah we don't waste tax money but it doesn't matter, tax money is being wasted on the trial, and execution.
Besides in most cases it takes years to even get a trial and when you do, it's an even longer process to finally execute the suspect.

Lets assume he's in a maximum security prison, the likeliness is slim.

 

[Ōkami]

Yes it is.

But death row should only have a maximum wait period of a month.

That way we can make it a monthly PPV and have the criminals fight to the death.

 

[Αizen]

Yes it is.

But death row should only have a maximum wait period of a month.

That way we can make it a monthly PPV and have the criminals fight to the death.

That's not a bad idea...I'm kidding ..
What's your reason for it being necessary ?

 

[Ōkami]

That's not a bad idea...I'm kidding ..
What's your reason for it being necessary ?

If ya kill ya should be killed yourself.

Karma is ***** to people who **** over other people.

 

[Loki Helcast]

I believe you lol

That im a little bit evil or you believe in torture?

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

prison is much worse - i'd rather die a thosand times.

btw screw the goverment and their laws, a bunch of hypocrites judging the fates of human beings.

the entire system needs to change and people who are so full of hate like this thread need to be genetically deleted/rectified, thats my ambition to improve the human genome through science that is the only way to make you smart.

 

[Αizen]

If ya kill ya should be killed yourself.

Karma is ***** to people who **** over other people.

I understand you...but my point, I mean why do it?
You're not gaining anything by it, a better punishment is prison, it's not our choice to choose if he dies or not.

 

[Penguin]

It definitely is necessary, under the right conditions and depending on key variables. If the dude/woman is a murderer who was not forced to murder, and acted out by him/herself, he/she deserves to die and not waste money by being a waste of space in jail. If it is rape or some other shit, prison time is enough.