making the sand clog together wouldnt really hinder gaara,since he usually attacks with sand that way(he dosent attack with individual grains). Also oil is less dense than water,gold is 20x denser than water,gaara mixed gold into his sand and could use it,i dont see oil being much of a threat in terms of weighing it down,and this is a desert,how much oil can he spit out at once?. Also the oil is thick,it cant slip through,so at most it will affect the outer surface only.
There is a difference between clogged sand and sand gatheredtogether in one sweep. Clogged sand can't maneuver as freely and will in fact move a bit slower. This is why once Garra's sand was lightened, he was able to pull Madara out of susnaoo easily, easier to maneuver and control .
Thick clogged sand wouldn't be able to wrap an opponent as easily as weve seen, since itll be stcuck together. I wont go deep into it, but that's premise of how it will effect his sand mobility.
Lol gaara cant beat Jiraiya..Pain said if Jiraiya knew he's secret he would have probably lost to Jman..itachi made it known to kisame that he can't beat jman..kisame said jman is on another level...gaara cant handle that...gaara is even noo match for pain
Orochimaru has shown abilities to avoid such attacks, especially while those offenses are on the surface. Garra trying to bury or subdue Orochimaru with sand would be pointless. Example)
1) Attack Prevention Technique
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2)Mayfly
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"It allows him to merge his body with the ground and flora and travel at very high speeds."
"Using this technique he can conceal himself in such things as trees and even sand. Once merged, his presence is completely concealed, making it almost impossible to detect him, even for sensor type ninja like Karin. This makes this technique perfect for close range spying."
These two techniques alone allow him to avoid such attacks effortlessly and with his ability to sense chakra, the chakra within the sand will allow him to predict its approach. SAND CANNOT SENSE THIS ABILITY![/QUOTE]
Lol, you clearly have no idea on what Gaara is capable of.
1. Attack prevention. For the third time now, sand sensing would be enough to negate that [
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2. As for Mayfly, it matters not that Gaara won't be able to sense him out. You see, Gaara has the ability to send crushing shock waves throughout the sand [
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Garra uses environmental sand, which isnt as strong and dense and the sand he keeps within his gourd. you act as if it's impossible to planet spores in his sand, Deidara did this effortlessly and even explains how chakra in infused with the sand.
And you act as if Orochimaru can contaminate as much sand as Gaara can control.
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Secondly, I'm in question as to whether the spores would work or not. You see, spores grow into clones over time [
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Lol, Deidara did this effortlessly? Reread the manga. This would only work if Gaara uses the sand he keeps in his gourd as an offense. But, with Gaara being able to go airborne, he can use it defensively [
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], while attacking with the surrounding sand. This is certain as unlike Deidara, the Sannin have nothing to close the distance with. Deidara's clay bird was extremely fast, so he was able to close the distance between him and an airborne Gaara. The Sannin are ground based, so your tactic would not work.
If Garra was to use his sand in his gourd, as he's done previously, to cripple his opponents, Orochimaru can easily planet spores into his sand. In depending someone as durable as Orochiamru and Tsuande, Garra would need to use his strongest sand to finish them.
Okay, so the chakra from Gaara's sand is absorbed, and Gaara's sand fails. Lol, you think he won't notice his ultimate defence isn't working? He easily dispels of the spores with his pressure Tsunami. This is also a good way for Gaara to get knowledge.
Tsuande may be caught, but there isnt proof that such sand can restraint her. Kimimaro using CM2 had no issue resisting. Now, while his sand has improved, it never has went against someone as strong as Tsuande.
Yes, Kimimaro with a Kekkei Genkai able to harden his body to steels degree. Tsunade's body is still susceptible to getting penetrated [
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They wouldnt drown as all, they'll simply apply chakra to their feet and stand upon it. This still prevent sand from coming underneath them. Sand Tsunami is blocked with Summoning: Triple Rashōmon...ultimately looking similar to this
Jman doesn't need summoning to beat gaara..he can gosage mode and destroy gaara...adding oro who fought 4 tailed kyuubi with no jutsu...tsunade who can heal them..how does gaara win
Lol gaara cant beat Jiraiya..Pain said if Jiraiya knew he's secret he would have probably lost to Jman..itachi made it known to kisame that he can't beat jman..kisame said jman is on another level...gaara cant handle that...gaara is even noo match for pain
pain destroyed konoha,beat up naruto 3 boss toads ma and pa,killed kakashi and countless shinobi. I guess jiraiya beats all of them together cuz they lost to pain right?.
There is a difference between clogged sand and sand gatheredtogether in one sweep. Clogged sand can't maneuver as freely and will in fact move a bit slower. This is why once Garra's sand was lightened, he was able to pull Madara out of susnaoo easily, easier to maneuver and control .
Thick clogged sand wouldn't be able to wrap an opponent as easily as weve seen, since itll be stcuck together. I wont go deep into it, but that's premise of how it will effect his sand mobility.
Jman doesn't need summoning to beat gaara..he can gosage mode and destroy gaara...adding oro who fought 4 tailed kyuubi with no jutsu...tsunade who can heal them..how does gaara win
lol @ people saying gaara wins because of no summoning. Jiraiya is literally the only sannin that relies on summoning Lol.
So, tsunade, without katsuya, was able to hold her own against madara, but because katsuya is restricted thsi changes something?
So, Orochimaru was able to hold his own against 4 tailed naruto and his Tbb, with no jutsu, but no summoning is suppose to change something?
Garra saw tsunade in action. He rips her limb from limb the same way he ripped off deidara's arm. Even that oro isn't the oro garra's is going up against since this oro can't even use roshomon. All he's doing this match is oral rebirth till he dies. Then we're left with jman who you already admitted was summon heavy.
These two techniques alone allow him to avoid such attacks effortlessly and with his ability to sense chakra, the chakra within the sand will allow him to predict its approach. SAND CANNOT SENSE THIS ABILITY!
Lol, you clearly have no idea on what Gaara is capable of.
1. Attack prevention. For the third time now, sand sensing would be enough to negate that [
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2. As for Mayfly, it matters not that Gaara won't be able to sense him out. You see, Gaara has the ability to send crushing shock waves throughout the sand [
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And you act as if Orochimaru can contaminate as much sand as Gaara can control.
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Secondly, I'm in question as to whether the spores would work or not. You see, spores grow into clones over time [
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Lol, Deidara did this effortlessly? Reread the manga. This would only work if Gaara uses the sand he keeps in his gourd as an offense. But, with Gaara being able to go airborne, he can use it defensively [
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], while attacking with the surrounding sand. This is certain as unlike Deidara, the Sannin have nothing to close the distance with. Deidara's clay bird was extremely fast, so he was able to close the distance between him and an airborne Gaara. The Sannin are ground based, so your tactic would not work.
Okay, so the chakra from Gaara's sand is absorbed, and Gaara's sand fails. Lol, you think he won't notice his ultimate defence isn't working? He easily dispels of the spores with his pressure Tsunami. This is also a good way for Gaara to get knowledge.
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Yes, Kimimaro with a Kekkei Genkai able to harden his body to steels degree. Tsunade's body is still susceptible to getting penetrated [
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Allowing them to avoid the impact, remove themselves from the surrounding sand, etc.[/QUOTE]
Read the OP. Roshomon is a summoning; they're restricted.
Yes, Jiraiya's hair attacks will kill Gaara no diff. Please, they have nothing on Gaara. Shukaku or not, whatever.[/QUOTE]
For some reason my server isnt allowing me to quote the normal way, so I have to go advanced, which limits me to visually see your exact post the way i normally would have. Nonetheless, to address you claims...
shock waves sent through sand is a separate technique and as I've already stated this occurs on the surface of the landscape. Orochimaru had the ability to travel UNDERNEATH this sand, escaping the sand burial. This is similar to sand coffin, except it's spread across the battlefield and the opponent MUST be buried right underneath the sand in order for this to take effect. The sand does NOT crush the land mass underneath the sand that's applied by Garra, it's a added layer. Orochimaru would be out of harms. In using Mayfly not only is capable to removing his presence, but has the ability to produce multiple clones in the process OR place spores in the sand if he pleased.
Such an attack would not force him to show himself OR Spores, are you forgetting Sasuke has spores on him the entire time against Kabuto! The spores would have revealed themselves if so, they only respond to chakra!
There has not be any limit shown to how many spores can planted, and the ONLY effective plant would be to contaminate the sand possesses in his gourd. Garra uses this sand when environmental sand itself isnt enough to handle the opponent. This is the reason why I included the scan of Deidara explaining this and HOW he contaminate Garra's sand in the first place! Regular sand isnt dense/strong enough to defeat or immobilize Tsuande or Orochimaru, Garra would notice this and would mix his own sand into the fight. Deidara observed this shortly into the fight, yet you think three experienced shinobi wouldn't? Don't kid yourself. Even if Garra was to keep his personal sand as a shield, Orochimaru can get close or offensively force Garra to use his sand. Ex) using 8 Branch Technique, which isnt a summing. Now, while it's a big easy target, Garra will not a lot power to retrain and possibly crush. ADDING his perosnal sand into the environmental sand.
Spores don't grow into clones over time, as if there is a limit to them being spores. Zetsu activated them and mind you, Zetsu did not have physical contact with everyone in the room and spores were still on them. As stated, this shock wave is irrelevant
No, Deidara's bird weren't the cause of Garra using his sand, it was the threat presented before the village. The environmental sand wasnt dens enough to handle such an attack. Again, I've explained WHY Garra may feel the need to use his personal sand similarity to that situation. Being unable to handle a threat with regular sand will force him to use the sand in his gourd. Also, when dealing with multiple opponents its difficult to keep an eye on each, Orochimaru can easily lengthen his neck to POSE a threat to Garra, potentially forcing him to use his sand to move forward. In using offensive attacks on Jiriya and Tsuande, Orochiamru can use this as an opening to get close, just to force him to use his personal sand.
It's not about absorbing the chakra from his ultimately sand, it's about contaminating his personal sand and the spores getting attached to him. Though absorbing his chakra from the sand would be effective.
I am aware of the possible use of the third eye observing, regardless Garra himself would still need to react to this attack.
Are you saying that the Sannin are unable to attack and avoid sand, when even Kimimaro was capable of doing this?
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But Jiryia and Orochimaru possess long distance jutsu and can perform these in mix of dodging sand. Orochimaru can easily spit out his sword and control this, while Garra is focused on catching them.
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This is where we see Garra unable to restrain Kimimaro, as the words "grip" appear and Kimimaro still ran along. Now, Tsuande being strongest than Kimimaro can very well resistant any sand from gathering upon her to even crush and cover her limbs.
I don't know if OP considered Roshomon, but ok I'll let that go.
Look up Jiriya's arsenal, he has more than hair attacks. Katon
Look up Orochimaru's arsenal, his fuuton can be used effectively. We've already seen what a small gust can do against his part gourd enhanced sand
pain destroyed konoha,beat up naruto 3 boss toads ma and pa,killed kakashi and countless shinobi. I guess jiraiya beats all of them together cuz they lost to pain right?.
perhaps,but this is a desert,j-man's oil is negligible compared to what gaara can bring up.
jiraiya needs his toads to go sm,tsunade cant heal them here,oro has no rashomon,snakes or kusanagi to fight. Please say how they win?
Garra does to her what he did to deidara,(crush and rip limbs off) even worse she can only heal herself. If she wants to heal others it would be though direct contact(no katsuyu) making it easier for garra to one shot both of them. Oro sword isn't getting through his sand.
