Madara cant counter kamui

[Da Best Ever]

He kamui'd it while it was standing there, before it got summoned to Maddy.

exactly dnt even waste your time trying to argue it....and sm is a good counter and has reaction/reflexes greater than the raikages...and i also knw that obito's use of kamui doesnt kill anyone and kakashi's has never killed anything either the only thing he has warped was a jutsu and a nail and although his has the potential to kill he would need to catch madara slipping, which aint gonna happen

 

[Megatolium]

Kishimoto did say Madara has no weakness whatsoever, also Kamui isn't instantneous and hardly worked on normal size opponents (Deidara the only exception), Kakashi continually used this on gigantic foes simply because he enemy is too big to move away.

Also consider reaction, if chakra is used it can be felt, chakra pressure is what you call it. Madara can definitely sense it since he sensed Hashirama from Konoha.

 

[Da Best Ever]

The way it was gonna solo 5 tailed beasts or the Juubi itself U_U

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kakashi can only use kamui 5 times by himself without chakra cloak and he will have to kamui jutsu from madara so he wont even be able o kamui madara himself

 

[HNIC]

I see can Kakashi's kamui being used effectively, leaving one immoble or dead.But how does Obito's kmaui defeat anyone? He simply wraps them and they'll be placed in his dimension unharmed.

 

[Da Best Ever]

Kishimoto did say Madara has no weakness whatsoever, also Kamui isn't instantneous and hardly worked on normal size opponents (Deidara the only exception), Kakashi continually used this on gigantic foes simply because he enemy is too big to move away.

Also consider reaction, if chakra is used it can be felt, chakra pressure is what you call it. Madara can definitely sense it since he sensed Hashirama from Konoha.

and he has sage mode now anyway so he surely can sense it

 

[Da Best Ever]

databook states sasuke has God speed itachi is invincible with ym+tb so if we're going based off databook itachi is unbeatable

well thats kind of sort of true about itachi, and the manga said it too so...

 

[Umari Senju]

Here's the issue with Kamui:

Obito- Obito needs to be tangible in order to suck someting up into the kamui dimension. If his opponent has any skill with Taijutsu or has any kind of speed Obito can be countered before Kamui takes effect. Especially when dealing with Sensors. They can sense the change in Chakra and react appropriately before it is actived.

Kakashi- kakshi 1st needs time to build up enough chakra to perform Kamui. If he doesn't prepare it before the fight or does not have anyone to cover while he builds up his chakra, he will be pressed before he can even use it.

Kamui is extremely overrated. There are ways around it.

 

[BlacLord™]

Wow....really....? I thought the Viz was the real deal of the Holyfield? So in what order do the translations rank? If I may ask....?

*********** remains top dog, I usually have a quick scan through the raws and the aforementioned is the closest I've seen without putting in their own interpretations/using poor English.

Viz is only official because the company that owns Viz Media, Shueisha, is the publisher of Weekly Shounen Jump, in which Naruto features but in truth, the Viz translators have been shoddy in the past, putting in their own interpretations too.

Mangapanda is synonymous with a rushed job, rushing the translation and using very literal English but they generally do a better job than the Viz group.

So:

1) ***********
2) Mangapanda
3) Viz

 

[itachi4real]

The way it was gonna solo 5 tailed beasts or the Juubi itself U_U

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Kakashi wasnt tryna kamui the tailed beasts he was only tryna kamui the tbbs. Also u think kakashi had the strength to kamui that big ass juubi? No. Plus were not talkin about kakashis kamui( which is a long distance kamui) were talking about obito's kamui( which short range kamui). In order to kamui the ps he has to become tangible which leaves him vunerable and madara has an opening.

 

[Da Best Ever]

if kakashi can even catch madarain that shit then sure he can beat him but u guys dnt realize how hard it is to use that on a shinobi especially of madara's level, who can just launch jutsu after jutsu at kakashi until he warps all the jutsu away and kakashi can only use kamui 5 times on his own, do u think madara can only use jutsu 5 times???hell no

 

[RikudouMadara]

I see can Kakashi's kamui being used effectively, leaving one immoble or dead.But how does Obito's kmaui defeat anyone? He simply wraps them and they'll be placed in his dimension unharmed.

That's true....and in Kamui dimension Madara could sit and wait for Obito to enter for quite some time. As Madara doesn't need to eat or drink to survive. Hypothetical... if that situation happened.

 

[HNIC]

Here's the issue with Kamui:

Obito- Obito needs to be tangible in order to suck someting up into the kamui dimension. If his opponent has any skill with Taijutsu or has any kind of speed Obito can be countered before Kamui takes effect. Especially when dealing with Sensors. They can sense the change in Chakra and react appropriately before it is actived.

Kakashi- kakshi 1st needs time to build up enough chakra to perform Kamui. If he doesn't prepare it before the fight or does not have anyone to cover while he builds up his chakra, he will be pressed before he can even use it.

Kamui is extremely overrated. There are ways around it.

So Gai is Obitio's worse match up? That sounds thread worthy

 

[AlphaScythian]

How is kamui stopping ps?

It just bypasses it. PS is nothing but a waste of chakra in face of kamui. As long as madara is in sight its good enough

 

[Aya San]

It got taken out of Obito and teleported straight to Madara, it happened almost instantly.

They had time to talk to each other before kamui [

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[AlphaScythian]

They had time to talk to each other before kamui [

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This kind of logic means nothing in manga, they talk all the time at speed of light U_U

 

[HNIC]

That's true....and in Kamui dimension Madara could sit and wait for Obito to enter for quite some time. As Madara doesn't need to eat or drink to survive. Hypothetical... if that situation happened.

Unless Madara has Zetsu body, i believe he needs to eat and drink. But generally speaking placing one into his dimension isn't a defeat technically

 

[Bogard]

Lol at people talking about kamui being overrated. The thing can warp something mid teleportation. How can you dodge that. Its not our fault if Kamui is so strong. Guess the strongest are always hated or downgraded Lol

They had time to talk to each other before kamui [

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Just like Kakashi had time to speak when a raikiri kunai was flying fast mid air in a close distance between Naruto and Obito and Kakashi still had time to warp it afterwards. Guess ninjas speak prettty fast in this manga Lol

 

[miromiro]

Preta Path can.

 

[itachi4real]

It just bypasses it. PS is nothing but a waste of chakra in face of kamui. As long as madara is in sight its good enough

????? Then if obito is using kamui to become intangible how is he gonna defeat madara. Kui is just a great escape thats it

 

[OnPoint]

Wow....really....? I thought the Viz was the real deal of the Holyfield? So in what order do the translations rank? If I may ask....?

It is, that guy is talking out his arse.