[Predictions] Blackbeard Pirates DF's?

[24 12 11 to troll]

Which DF's do you think the Blackbeard Pirates have now/will have EOS?
They've been DF hunting: so...

Now:
Blackbeard: Yami Yami no Mi, Gura Gura no Mi
Lafitte: Some kind of Angelic Zoan (or an Albatross Zoan)
Stronger + Doc Q: Stronger should have some kind of Zoan fruit, maybe some kind of big cat (Not a leopard)
Caterina Devon: A Cloud-based Paramecia (similar to Nami's climatact)

EOS:
Blackbeard: Yami Yami no Mi, Gura Gura no Mi
Jesus Burgess: Jozu's fruit (To fight Zoro, foreshadowed to cut Diamond)
Shilliew: Marco's fruit (To fight Sanji, we will see how strong his flames really are, plus fighting a swordsman puts Sanji at a disadvantage)
Sanjuan Wolf: Something to control his size.
Lafitte: Some kind of Angelic Zoan (or an Albatross Zoan)
Stronger + Doc Q: Stronger should have some kind of Zoan fruit, maybe some kind of big cat (Not a leopard), Doc Q consumes Urouge's devil fruit (Both of them are weak and vulnerable, increasing their physical strength would be cool!)
Avalo Pizarro: Consumes Bege's fruit (Corrupt King = Gangster?)
Vasco Shot: Something to do with fuel("Heavy drinker" -> Ethanol -> Fuels)
Van Auger: A sound based paramecia (his nickname is "Supersonic")
Caterina Devon: A Cloud-based Paramecia (similar to Nami's climatact)

Your ideas??

 

[Skylar Knight]

It would be hilarious if Sanjuan Wolf had some kind of gnome like powers.

 

[Olorin]

Senjuan wolf should get a mythical zoan model Leprechaun, that would be simply toooooooooooo ridiculous

well BB might get a zoan
I agree with Burgess
not sure about Shiliew since he is a swordsman, maybe I would rather BB got the fruit
Devon could maybe get a wind logia, but that might be too much for nami, but than again controlling weather might be a powerful weapon against wind

 

[Hexuze]

You've got Burgess and Shilliew fruits mixed up.

 

[Avinash012]

IMO Shilliew'll be the one that fights Zoro.

 

[TheHokage]

I agree Shililew will fight Zoro not Burgess.

Anyway I actually think Blackbeard will have three Devil Fruits in his fight with Luffy.

Shiliew will gain Jozu's fruit and fight Zoro makes sense really swordsman vs swordsman.
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Sanji will fight Burgessn with Marco or Ace's fruit as we know Sanji has been shown to use fire techniques not to mention it will be the ultimate battle of legs (Sanji) vs arms (Burgess)

Of course Usopp will fight Auger the others I don't really care about.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Zoro fights swordsmen, that's how it is. He'll surely fight Shiliew, and if anyone were to consume Jozu's fruit, it'd be him. Zoro wants to be the best swordsman in the world, so he has to beat any and all he comes across. Shiliew is no exception.

 

[Olorin]

I know there is that whole Mihawk getting killed theory out there, but I hope Burgess (as the first fleet commander) fights Zoro, the diamond fruit would suit him more and if Sanji fights a swordsman and Zoro a fighter that will also be a tribute to their rivalry

that way Zoro also also gets to fight Mihawk

I won't say which I think is more probable

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

It would be hilarious if Sanjuan Wolf had some kind of gnome like powers.

Senjuan wolf should get a mythical zoan model Leprechaun, that would be simply toooooooooooo ridiculous

Maybe a Pygmy mythical Zoan (aka Tontottan). There's a human fruit so why not a dwarf fruit?

well BB might get a zoan
I agree with Burgess
not sure about Shiliew since he is a swordsman, maybe I would rather BB got the fruit
Devon could maybe get a wind logia, but that might be too much for nami, but than again controlling weather might be a powerful weapon against wind

A wind Logia would be hard to illustrate. Maybe a mist Logia? I just can't imagine Blackbeard with Marco's fruit. Although I suppose he'd have the three strongest DF's, one of each type (unless Kaidou's fruit surpasses the Phoenix).

You've got Burgess and Shilliew fruits mixed up.

Zoro is supposed to cut Diamond EOS, correct? I can't see Shilliew with a diamond fruit when someone of similar size and shape could have it instead. I suppose it just (to me anyways) suits Burgess to have Jozu's power.

IMO Shilliew'll be the one that fights Zoro.

I can see why.

I agree Shililew will fight Zoro not Burgess.

Anyway I actually think Blackbeard will have three Devil Fruits in his fight with Luffy.

I considered three fruits but I couldn't decide on a Zoan. Like Algalon suggested it could be Marco's fruit!

Shiliew will gain Jozu's fruit and fight Zoro makes sense really swordsman vs swordsman.
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Sanji will fight Burgessn with Marco or Ace's fruit as we know Sanji has been shown to use fire techniques not to mention it will be the ultimate battle of legs (Sanji) vs arms (Burgess)

Of course Usopp will fight Auger the others I don't really care about.

I can't see Shilliew with the fruit. I can imagine Burgess with the fruit, and I can see Shilliew with the Phoenix fruit, BB may have the phoenix fruit instead. If that's the case I think Shilliew should still have a Zoan fruit. Since in my opinion Burgess vs Zoro is more likely as diamond suits Burgess more, Shiliew consuming a fire affiliated fruit is possible. Such as Marco's fruit. Sanji's flames vs his flames would be cool.

Zoro fights swordsmen, that's how it is. He'll surely fight Shiliew, and if anyone were to consume Jozu's fruit, it'd be him. Zoro wants to be the best swordsman in the world, so he has to beat any and all he comes across. Shiliew is no exception.

Not always. Monet wasn't a Swordswoman. So there are exceptions to the rule. Burgess consuming the diamond fruit suits him more, so if Zoro is to cut diamond EOS he needs to fight whomever consumes it. So I think Zoro vs Burgess and Sanji vs Shilliew might be the matchups. If Sanji fights Shilliew it will also prove that Sanji is not weak against Swords like many people think.

I know there is that whole Mihawk getting killed theory out there, but I hope Burgess (as the first fleet commander) fights Zoro, the diamond fruit would suit him more and if Sanji fights a swordsman and Zoro a fighter that will also be a tribute to their rivalry

that way Zoro also also gets to fight Mihawk

I won't say which I think is more probable

First fleet commander = First mate in the Whitebeard Pirates, so I think so too.

 

[Olorin]

I have wanted (ever since MF where BB stole teh fruit) for BB to die drowning in the sea, the perfectly ironic death for the guy overly obsessed with the powers of the devil fruits

PS: the BB getting Marcos fruit idk about but there are only 2 mythical zoans and I think that Sengoku's shockwaves are too similar to the Gura Gura, so for now I settled on Marcos fruit, maybe the Yami Yami would turn him black ... a black Quake Phoenix against a Haki beast Luffy

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

I have wanted (ever since MF where BB stole teh fruit) for BB to die drowning in the sea, the perfectly ironic death for the guy overly obsessed with the powers of the devil fruits

Seems like something Oda would do...

 

[David1996]

I believe Shillew will fight Zoro.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Maybe a Pygmy mythical Zoan (aka Tontottan). There's a human fruit so why not a dwarf fruit?


A wind Logia would be hard to illustrate. Maybe a mist Logia? I just can't imagine Blackbeard with Marco's fruit. Although I suppose he'd have the three strongest DF's, one of each type (unless Kaidou's fruit surpasses the Phoenix).


Zoro is supposed to cut Diamond EOS, correct? I can't see Shilliew with a diamond fruit when someone of similar size and shape could have it instead. I suppose it just (to me anyways) suits Burgess to have Jozu's power.


I can see why.


I considered three fruits but I couldn't decide on a Zoan. Like Algalon suggested it could be Marco's fruit!


I can't see Shilliew with the fruit. I can imagine Burgess with the fruit, and I can see Shilliew with the Phoenix fruit, BB may have the phoenix fruit instead. If that's the case I think Shilliew should still have a Zoan fruit. Since in my opinion Burgess vs Zoro is more likely as diamond suits Burgess more, Shiliew consuming a fire affiliated fruit is possible. Such as Marco's fruit. Sanji's flames vs his flames would be cool.


Not always. Monet wasn't a Swordswoman. So there are exceptions to the rule. Burgess consuming the diamond fruit suits him more, so if Zoro is to cut diamond EOS he needs to fight whomever consumes it. So I think Zoro vs Burgess and Sanji vs Shilliew might be the matchups. If Sanji fights Shilliew it will also prove that Sanji is not weak against Swords like many people think.


First fleet commander = First mate in the Whitebeard Pirates, so I think so too.

Hmm, no. Lets look at the facts, shall we?

- Mihawk? Swordsman.
-Ryuuma? Swordsman.
- T-bone? Swordsman
- Kaku? Swordsman.
- Cabaji? Swordsman.
- Mr.1? He's made of blades.
- Ohm? Swordsman.
- Hachi? Swordsman.

The strong majority of Zoro's opponents are swordsmen. He is destined to be the best, and beating the swordsman of one of the Yonkou will only solidify that fact. I agree Zoro is destined to cut diamond, but why can't it be Shiliew? Nothing points that way. Monet is different. Tashigi was her main opponent anyway. All Zoro did was scare the shit out of her, really. Heck, even Sanji. Pretty much all of his opponents were close quarter combatants. I don't need to mention everyone he's fought. Sanji being "weak" against swordsmen has nothing to do with Oda; what people say on a forum doesn't matter, because the manga sure as hell doesn't say that.

 

[TheHokage]

Hmm, no. Lets look at the facts, shall we?

- Mihawk? Swordsman.
-Ryuuma? Swordsman.
- T-bone? Swordsman
- Kaku? Swordsman.
- Cabaji? Swordsman.
- Mr.1? He's made of blades.
- Ohm? Swordsman.
- Hachi? Swordsman.

The strong majority of Zoro's opponents are swordsmen. He is destined to be the best, and beating the swordsman of one of the Yonkou will only solidify that fact. I agree Zoro is destined to cut diamond, but why can't it be Shiliew? Nothing points that way. Monet is different. Tashigi was her main opponent anyway. All Zoro did was scare the shit out of her, really. Heck, even Sanji. Pretty much all of his opponents were close quarter combatants. I don't need to mention everyone he's fought. Sanji being "weak" against swordsmen has nothing to do with Oda; what people say on a forum doesn't matter, because the manga sure as hell doesn't say that.

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Basically.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Hmm, no. Lets look at the facts, shall we?

- Mihawk? Swordsman.
-Ryuuma? Swordsman.
- T-bone? Swordsman
- Kaku? Swordsman.
- Cabaji? Swordsman.
- Mr.1? He's made of blades.
- Ohm? Swordsman.
- Hachi? Swordsman.

Well...

There are exceptions to the rule

Monet is a good example.

The strong majority of Zoro's opponents are swordsmen. He is destined to be the best, and beating the swordsman of one of the Yonkou will only solidify that fact. I agree Zoro is destined to cut diamond, but why can't it be Shiliew? Nothing points that way. Monet is different. Tashigi was her main opponent anyway. All Zoro did was scare the shit out of her, really. Heck, even Sanji. Pretty much all of his opponents were close quarter combatants. I don't need to mention everyone he's fought. Sanji being "weak" against swordsmen has nothing to do with Oda; what people say on a forum doesn't matter, because the manga sure as hell doesn't say that.

Why can't it be Shilliew? Well...

1st division commander = Burgess NOT Shilliew
Jozu and Burgess have the same somatotype. They fight similarly and therefore the fruit suits Burgess. The fruit doesn't seem to go well otherwise.
Sanji fighting Shilliew (with Marco's fruit) would be a battle of the ultimate flames.

Might want to take note of the similarities between Jozu and Burgess before you instantly turn down the possibility:

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Similar size, tiny legs, huge arms, similar/almost identical fighting styles from what little we've seen...

And uhhh this just looks retarded:

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[TheHokage]

Well...

Monet is a good example.


Why can't it be Shilliew? Well...

1st division commander = Burgess NOT Shilliew
Jozu and Burgess have the same somatotype. They fight similarly and therefore the fruit suits Burgess. The fruit doesn't seem to go well otherwise.
Sanji fighting Shilliew (with Marco's fruit) would be a battle of the ultimate flames.

I don't mean to sound like a douche but personally it seems you don't like the idea of Shiliew getting the diamond fruit because if he does you know there's a high chance he's going to defeat Mihawk.

Anyway just because Burgess is the first division commander it doesn't mean he's the strongest, it also could just be the fact that burgess was the first to join Blackbeard. In fact I'm actually certain Shiliew is stronger than Burgess.

Besides all that it makes far more sense for Zoro to fight the swordsman of the crew and the same rule applies with Sanji since I can't think of an opponent in the Blackbeard pirates that could push Zoro more than Shiliew especially if he has the Diamond fruit which can stop even slashes from Mihawk.

And with Sanji I can't think of anyone else other than Burgess pushing him regarding their fighting styles as you can say Sanji fighting a swordsman would show he can overcome swords all you like however it would just make a fight with Zoro and Burgess boring if Burgess hasn't got anyway to block Zoro's swords.

Personally I like the theory of Shiliew killing Mihawk as right now I can't really see Zoro and Mihawk fighting anymore seriously since they were actually student and pupil.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Well...

Monet is a good example.


Why can't it be Shilliew? Well...

1st division commander = Burgess NOT Shilliew
Jozu and Burgess have the same somatotype. They fight similarly and therefore the fruit suits Burgess. The fruit doesn't seem to go well otherwise.
Sanji fighting Shilliew (with Marco's fruit) would be a battle of the ultimate flames.

I already told you, Monet was Tashigi's opponent. All Zoro did was save Tashigi, and scare Monet.

So what if Burgess is the first division commander? That has nothing to do with who fights who. Again, what are you trying to say? Who cares if Jozu and Burgess have similar bodies?? What does that have to do with Zoro? Nothing, if you ask me. The fights go as follow: Luffy fights the first strongest, Zoro the second, Sanji the third. Was Ace the second strongest commander? No. That's just how it was. We don't know who's stronger between Shiliew and Burgess, so we go by common sense. Zoro fighting a guy who uses CQC, and brute force, makes no sense. Not when Zoro has been fighting 99% of swordsmen since chap.1.

Battle of ultimate flames? Would the same not apply to Burgess were he to eat Marco's fruit? And really, who's to say he'll even eat it?

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

I don't mean to sound like a douche but personally it seems you don't like the idea of Shiliew getting the diamond fruit because if he does you know there's a high chance he's going to defeat Mihawk.

Yep... just skip the last bit of my post why don't you?

Why does everyone think I am a Mihawk fanboy? I don't think Shilliew and Mihawk will fight because Zoro will get there first and then nearly clash before Sanji turns up. I don't like the idea because a Diamond sword is pointless as it's the same as a sword clad in Haki. Lame! If he's going to get a Devil Fruit it should at least fit his fighting style. Shiliew using blue flames with his sword would work (especially for a good match vs Sanji) And the regenerative abilities would be good to see. I can't imagine Burgess regenerating when he already tanks everything including a full powered punch from Garp, he just got back up. Regeneration would be too much. Once Zoro learns to cut Diamond Burgess would be screwed, if Burgess could regenerate he would never be knocked down.

Anyway just because Burgess is the first division commander it doesn't mean he's the strongest, it also could just be the fact that burgess was the first to join Blackbeard. In fact I'm actually certain Shiliew is stronger than Burgess.

Well look at things this way:
Marco = First division commander aka strongest commander
Burgess = First division commander

It would also seem strange for Burgess to be overtaken by a member that joins much later in the series, it's like somebody in between Zoro and Luffy or surpassing Sanji suddenly joins. It would simply be weird and take some getting used to. A lot of fans wouldn't like that and the same logic can be applied here.

Besides all that it makes far more sense for Zoro to fight the swordsman of the crew and the same rule applies with Sanji since I can't think of an opponent in the Blackbeard pirates that could push Zoro more than Shiliew especially if he has the Diamond fruit which can stop even slashes from Mihawk.

It does make sense, but it makes more sense for him to achieve what Mihawk could not; cutting Diamonds. Which is why Zoro vs Burgess is more likely.

And with Sanji I can't think of anyone else other than Burgess pushing him regarding their fighting styles as you can say Sanji fighting a swordsman would show he can overcome swords all you like however it would just make a fight with Zoro and Burgess boring if Burgess hasn't got anyway to block Zoro's swords.

Zoro will probably learn to cut Diamond during the fight, like when he learnt to cut through Steel vs Daz Bones. Sanji and Burgess fight completely differently, what do you mean by them even being compatible? I see where you're coming from but if Zoro is to cut Diamonds he must fight whomever consumes the diamond fruit. That fruit suits Burgess more, hence why Zoro vs Burgess is my favored match up.

Personally I like the theory of Shiliew killing Mihawk as right now I can't really see Zoro and Mihawk fighting anymore seriously since they were actually student and pupil.

That's a fair point, but they probably have some philosophy saying there are no friendships in swordsmanship or something...

I already told you, Monet was Tashigi's opponent. All Zoro did was save Tashigi, and scare Monet.

So what if Burgess is the first division commander? That has nothing to do with who fights who. Again, what are you trying to say? Who cares if Jozu and Burgess fight similarly? What does that have to do with Zoro? Nothing, if you ask me. The fights go as follow: Luffy fights the first strongest, Zoro the second, Sanji the third. Was Ace the second strongest commander? No. That's just how it was. We don't know who's stronger between Shiliew and Burgess, so we go by common sense. Zoro fighting a guy who uses CQC, and brute force, makes no sense. Not when Zoro has been fighting 99% of swordsmen since chap.1.

Battle of ultimate flames? Would the same not apply to Burgess were he to eat Marco's fruit? And really, who's to say he'll even eat it?

I've already covered everything.

To explain my logic vs yours:
You're probably going by match up compatibility based upon the current Shilliew and Burgess, NOT EOS.

On the other hand I go by Devil Fruit compatibility first, then based upon that the match up compatibility completely swaps over.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Then I guess we simply have differing opinions. Nothing more to say.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Then I guess we simply have differing opinions. Nothing more to say.

There's roughly equal evidence for both sides. Let's leave it at that.