Tobirama Versus Sasori | Why Tobirama Is Victorious.

[Murasame]

i agree tobirama wins but he will only have base speed not ftg while the 3rd kazekage is out so that could alter the battle a little but tobirama still wins and u picked someone who tobirama clearly had an advantage over...and just because tobirama has a lot of long range jutsu doesnt mean he can defeat all 100 puppets without getting hit, which is the point of the red secret tech, tobirama will get hit and he will be tired and when he gets hit he will be poisoned but he should win this fight mid diff at least but the outcome of the poison would be fatal and death would follow his victory

Jesus couldn't have you replied without quoting the OP? Now you made scrolling up and down annoying

 

[paratise]

@Da Best Ever did you need to quote OP?
Edit that shizz please.

 

[Touken]

Holy crap Kaant, how long did this take?

But anyway, nice job homie.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Hmmm idk about all this. I'll have to read this again on my labtop, because this did not convince me. Majority downplayed Sakura's analytical abilties in favor of Tobi, i didn't see Sasori's intelligence considered, who's arguably one of the brightest shinobi in the series.

Nonetheless, I'll look over the Iron Sand argument again since that'll be his biggest concern.

That's very fair to say, though then again I'm not a Sasori debater.

Sakura's analytical abilities were't up to scratch at this point, but I suppose you're right.

Very good. Very good. However, I have 2 questions.

1. What's stopping the 3rd Kazekage from simply stealing any kunai, swords, or even metal equipment located on tobirama himself with its Magnet Release? Perhaps you covered it and I did not see.

2. How does Tobirama evade Sasori's 200 puppets? Although he cannonically only used 100, Sasori was up against 12 foes and thus had to concentrate that much harder. At the end of a prolonged battle in which Tobirama had to use multiple clones to survive and take on Hiruko and the Kazekage, I don't see him creating anywhere near 12 with his remaining chakra. Even so, I don't see how he can survive Sasori's multiple onslaughts without so much as a single scratch or breath of poison smoke. Can you elaborate?

@1: The Kazekage cannot instinctively control all magnetism, in order to do that it must first be magnetised by touching his chakra. In the event that it is, it can simply be removed.

@2: In reality it was only two opponents, Chiyo was vulnerable herself and unlike Sasori she actually displayed the ability to individually control puppets (One per hand.) - which Sasori hasn't. We know nothing about Sasori's other 200 puppets but like I mentioned he wouldn't have the chakra to use them all at once. In terms of 'not seeing him create 12 with his remaining chakra' I do. Kakashi was able to make a large amount by himself when he was virtually out of Chakra. [

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As Sasori's weapons are poisoned Suiton can simply wash them off, whereas poison smoke can be dispersed with a paper bomb, or evade.

Thanks for reading/

 

[Nattana]

Just because it's a long post written with a fancy font doesn't mean it's correct. Sasori defeats Tobirama.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

i agree tobirama wins but he will only have base speed not ftg while the 3rd kazekage is out so that could alter the battle a little but tobirama still wins and u picked someone who tobirama clearly had an advantage over...and just because tobirama has a lot of long range jutsu doesnt mean he can defeat all 100 puppets without getting hit, which is the point of the red secret tech, tobirama will get hit and he will be tired and when he gets hit he will be poisoned but he should win this fight mid diff at least but the outcome of the poison would be fatal and death would follow his victory

Please edit your post and I'll counter it.

Just because it's a long post written with a fancy font doesn't mean it's correct. Sasori defeats Tobirama.

Of course not, that's just to make people read it. If you could perhaps give an answer why he wins it would make your post more valid.

 

[Penguin]

Just because it's a long post written with a fancy font doesn't mean it's correct. Sasori defeats Tobirama.

You realize threads are meant to be read, not to be judged by their "fancy fonts". Lol

 

[Da Best Ever]

Jesus couldn't have you replied without quoting the OP? Now you made scrolling up and down annoying

well deal with it, u act like it hurts u to do it....there is going to be worse things in life that annoy u than this...deal with it

 

[The Necromancer]

That's very fair to say, though then again I'm not a Sasori debater.

Sakura's analytical abilities were't up to scratch at this point, but I suppose you're right.



@1: The Kazekage cannot instinctively control all magnetism, in order to do that it must first be magnetised by touching his chakra. In the event that it is, it can simply be removed.

@2: In reality it was only two opponents, Chiyo was vulnerable herself and unlike Sasori she actually displayed the ability to individually control puppets (One per hand.) - which Sasori hasn't. We know nothing about Sasori's other 200 puppets but like I mentioned he wouldn't have the chakra to use them all at once. In terms of 'not seeing him create 12 with his remaining chakra' I do. Kakashi was able to make a large amount by himself when he was virtually out of Chakra. [

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As Sasori's weapons are poisoned Suiton can simply wash them off, whereas poison smoke can be dispersed with a paper bomb, or evade.

Thanks for reading/

1. There's no indication that is true. In fact Chiyo mentions that all steel weapons would be useless I believe. Scan please.
2. Kakashi even mentions that that was a fake, and that hopefully they would fall for it. So I don't believe that to be a real feat, and even so would render Tobirama chakra-less.
3. I don't see Tobirama washing poison off a blade while he's fighting. Not off of hundreds at least.

I respectfully disagree with most, and agree with some.

 

[Murasame]

well deal with it, u act like it hurts u to do it....there is going to be worse things in life that annoy u than this...deal with it

You're right crap this hurts me so much!! I think I'm going to die if you leave it like this. Sorry this is the worst thing thats ever happened in my life I can't deal with it. *facepalm*
I don't really care now since we're on the second page anyways.

 

[Owarij]

Nah
I might write a rebuttal in a while once i'm finished with some things

 

[Da Best Ever]

Please edit your post and I'll counter it.



Of course not, that's just to make people read it. If you could perhaps give an answer why he wins it would make your post more valid.

no and i wasnt even paying attention when i posted all that but it is common to re-post the op's post when posting it just so happens yours is extremely long, now i apologize for not being aware of what i was doing but deal with it and i said tobirama wins and u said the same so u cant counter that...

 

[Optimistic]

someone will counter this later.

edited post because weaboo's got upset.

 

[Da Best Ever]

You're right crap this hurts me so much!! I think I'm going to die if you leave it like this. Sorry this is the worst thing thats ever happened in my life I can't deal with it. *facepalm*
I don't really care now since we're on the second page anyways.

its funny how your being sarcastic now like it dnt bother u but u ended up sending me a message...and we u knew the thread was going to have a second page but u still complained...

 

[Murasame]

someone will counter this later.

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OT: Tobirama floods the universe

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

1. There's no indication that is true. In fact Chiyo mentions that all steel weapons would be useless I believe. Scan please.
2. Kakashi even mentions that that was a fake, and that hopefully they would fall for it. So I don't believe that to be a real feat, and even so would render Tobirama chakra-less.
3. I don't see Tobirama washing poison off a blade while he's fighting. Not off of hundreds at least.

I respectfully disagree with most, and agree with some.

@1: Yes she does mention that, but we have no idea how it's used as it's never properly shown. *Post will be edited with Scan*

I think the fact that Chiyo's puppets were able to fight with Iron and steel weapons when the Kazekage was out is enough to say with confidence that Tobirama won't be magnetised.

@2: He mentions that it's a fake as in that they're only supposed to represent extra numbers. Kakashi was almost completely out of chakra so he wouldn't have been able to fight had it came down to it. He even uses the seal.

@3: I thought you were talking about the Iron Sand, apologies. Suidanha would cut through many of the attacking puppets. Like I said even Sakura when she was "past her limits" was able to evade their attacks.

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I'm not replying to anyone else for today. I'll merely observe.

 

[The Necromancer]

@1: Yes she does mention that, but we have no idea how it's used as it's never properly shown. *Post will be edited with Scan*

@2: He mentions that it's a fake as in that they're only supposed to represent extra numbers. Kakashi was completely out of chakra so he wouldn't have been able to fight had it came down to it. He even uses the seal.

@3: I thought you were talking about the Iron Sand, apologies. Suidanha would cut through many of the attacking puppets. Like I said even Sakura when she was "past her limits" was able to evade their attacks.

Ehhhh. I still believe that without true, fight-able kage bunshins to aid him against the 100 puppets, he would get scratched at least once.

If someone had asked me if Tobirama could kill Sasori without so much as a single scratch on him, I would disagree. Take away Sasori's poison and I would give this to Tobirama 4/5 times.

 

[Murasame]

its funny how your being sarcastic now like it dnt bother u but u ended up sending me a message...and we u knew the thread was going to have a second page but u still complained...

I vm'd you to edit it before we got to the 2nd page that's all I did lol. Yeah I complained a little so what its not like i was raging hardcore and I along with two other members including the op asked you to edit so I'm not the only one. Anyways Stfu otherwise we're going to litter this thread with spam.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Too Long. Didn't Read. I'll just agree because the text was too strong.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Ehhhh. I still believe that without true, fight-able kage bunshins to aid him against the 100 puppets, he would get scratched at least once.

If someone had asked me if Tobirama could kill Sasori without so much as a single scratch on him, I would disagree. Take away Sasori's poison and I would give this to Tobirama 4/5 times.

With Tobirama's Senju Chakra in mind Chakra constraints won't be a problem.

And whilst I respect your opinion I'll leave you with the fact that Sakura was able to evade the puppets, and attack Sasori directly, and Sasori was unable to defend himself in time. Likewise I stated how the Kage Bushin's can strike the chakra threads.

This is all in the op, but I understand how it is a wall of text.

^i said I wasn't going to reply to anymore, lol.