[VS] EMS Sasuke vs. Akatsuki

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Varrah is the only member on this site who can rival my debating skills( Prince Charles wishes he was on my level ). I already decimated AC so i wouldn't be surprised if he didn't reply to Varrah.

Wow can i get your sign then?
 

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Varrah is the only member on this site who can rival my debating skills( Prince Charles wishes he was on my level ). I already decimated AC so i wouldn't be surprised if he didn't reply to Varrah.

Holy shit that sig :leaf:
 

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Sasori and Itachi don't stand a chance alone. Their only option is to sit behind the Yata Mirror and try to tank all of Sasuke's attacks while they try to do some damage with Totsuka and Satetsu which will fail rather miserably considering none of these weapons are powerful enough to get past just a V2 Susano'o. All of Sasori's Satetsu would get demagnetized due to the heat of Sasuke's Amaterasu or Sasuke can just burn all of the Satetsu with his until there is nothing left just like Itachi did to Sasuke's Katon. [ ]

They are left without a proper offense and have to be kept on defensive stance all the time. Sasuke can just wait until Itachi can't hold up Susano'o anymore and drops dead due to his terrible stamina when in 'sick' form or he can manipulate his Enton to go underground and then pierce both Sasori and Itachi from underground much like Madara did to Tsunade. The Yata Mirror can't protect attacks from underground so it would get bypassed.

Like I said, Itachi and Sasori alone don't stand a chance.​
lmmfao!!!!! heat does not demagnetize anything, which one of your friends told you that??? enton under ground??? Sasuke has feats of using mukoton/doton????....... Dafuq am i reading???
 

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tim is lame as fuk lol

wut r u talking bout? he decimates AC all the time at debating. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

@tim you should put that Dr.Proof in real life ava that one was funny as fuk as well Lol
 

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Why are we talking about Totsuka sealing Susanoo here?


So that it may be discuss, why else?


Totsuka needs to actually pierce its target in order to seal it.

In all of its usage this is the case.


and it can't pierce Susanoo so its not sealing it either. No compelling evidence to say Totsuka is going to pierce something that can take a Bijuu Dama with no damage.



lol, no.


Explain your reasoning; it seems to me that you believe, Susanoō, the literally physical manifestation of chakra, cannot be sealed by the Totsuka no Tsurugi since it survived a bijūdama and for it being unable to pierce Sasuke’s Susanoō for some unlisted reason; even if Sasuke’s Susanoō was layered in Enton by Kagutsuchi the Totsuka no Tsurugi can still seal it—the only way or ways that the blade cannot seal Sasuke’s Susanoō is either it undergoing some metamorphosis that changes it properties or Itachi dies—or some other particularity.



varrah are you arguing that itachi and sasori can take ems sasuke? if u are im going to shit on your post right now.

I am not hungry right not, Waltz may be—Drae' seems to be enjoying an appetizer though.
 
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Eien no Mangekyo sharingan Sasuke wins this match.

 

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I am not hungry right not, Waltz may be—Drae' seems to be enjoying an appetizer though.

fuk a appetizer ill give each of you scrubs a FULL COURSE MEAL TORIKO STYLE!

who wants? itachi and sasori aint taking sasuke! fact!
 

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So that it may be discuss, why else?




In all of its usage this is the case.





Explain your reasoning; it seems to me that you believe, Susanoō, the literally physical manifestation of chakra, cannot be sealed by the Totsuka no Tsurugi since it survived a bijūdama and for it being unable to pierce Sasuke’s Susanoō for some unlisted reason; even if Sasuke’s Susanoō was layered in Enton by Kagutsuchi the Totsuka no Tsurugi can still seal it—the only way or ways that the blade cannot seal Sasuke’s Susanoō is either it undergoing some metamorphosis that changes it properties or Itachi dies—or some other particularity.





I am not hungry right not, Waltz may be—Drae' seems to be enjoying an appetizer though.

Naw I'm Chilling, don't have time at the moment. But either one of us three can take this thread and the users of it out alone if we tried. I'll let them have fun in think Sasuke=Madara...
 

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Enton, Páfekuto Susano'o and Sasuke's summoning are too much for those 5.


 

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smh saying itachi and that puppet fodder can take ems sasuke! please log off! that is all! i wont put you on blast only because you and me go wayy back varrah! but keep acting up and ima shit on you!

same goes for you draegod or rather draelame
 

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Enton, Páfekuto Susano'o and Sasuke's summoning are too much for those 5.
Nah PS gets countered by GSB. Enton isn't nearly as fast as amaterasu.. the only who most likely falls victim to that is Hidan.. good luck to Sasuke catching mutliple opponents at once with enton. Hawk? Loses to Deidara's clay dragon.
Aoda? You believe its going to overwhelm the akatsuki? Lel
 

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Explain your reasoning; it seems to me that you believe, Susanoō, the literally physical manifestation of chakra, cannot be sealed by the Totsuka no Tsurugi since it survived a bijūdama and for it being unable to pierce Sasuke’s Susanoō for some unlisted reason; even if Sasuke’s Susanoō was layered in Enton by Kagutsuchi the Totsuka no Tsurugi can still seal it—the only way or ways that the blade cannot seal Sasuke’s Susanoō is either it undergoing some metamorphosis that changes it properties or Itachi dies—or some other particularity.







Sasuke would know about the Totsuka no Tsurugi, he won't let himself get pierced with it. he might be
able to dodge it easily considering the fact that Sasuke even in Susano'o form has incredible speed like he
showed here [ ] short before the tree
was about to hit the SA. he sliced the tree and saved them. the fact that Orochimaru didn't dodge is was because he highly underestimated Itachi and just considered it a mere sword. Also want to add that this is sick itachi his Susano'o
won't last long so he have to prevent Sasuke from dodging Totsuka, only possible way I can see that happening
is in a akatsuki combo, but they aren't good with each other so I doubt such a combo will occur.
also want to add Sasuke can just undo Pafekuto Susano'o to ribcage form, and evade totsuka.


 

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smh saying itachi and that puppet fodder can take ems sasuke! please log off! that is all! i wont put you on blast only because you and me go wayy back varrah! but keep acting up and ima shit on you!

same goes for you draegod or rather draelame
I was gonna shit on your post but DraeGOD,Varrah and Waltz are more than enough to trash you.

They have my permission to shit on your posts.
 

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You detailed a certain state of affairs; that can be considered a one-shot. In addition to this, I think a more, pressing question is: how long can Sasuke continuously, effectively, and consistently use Susanoō and other techniques of the Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan? Sasori, in particular, only needs to scratch Sasuke to win. If Itachi uses nothing other than the Susanoō visual jutsu of the Mangekyō Sharingan, it is uncontested matter that his longevity is prolonged; therefore, I reiterate: how long can Sasuke continuously and consistently use Susanoō and other techniques of the Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan? The slightest glitches in the reflexes of Sasuke mean death.

At this current point, I do not possess an actual answer to your question. As there is none. So far Sasuke has been continously using the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan techniques without any visible drawbacks. [ ][ ] He no longer feels the need to cover his eye with his palm nor does he shake in pain after using Mangekyo Sharingan techniques.

Sasori needing only a scratch to win is true, however it's common sense to evade the enemy's attacks. Sasuke surely won't allow Sasori to leave any damage on him. Even if it is just a scratch. Itachi can only use Susano'o if he wishes, but nothing stops Sasuke from doing the exact same thing. Unlike Sasuke, Itachi will still feel pain and unlike current Sasuke, he doesn't have a good enough stamina to keep up Susano'o for too long. It's only a matter of time before he has to drop it.​

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I do not, it can be debated that Sasori can defeat Sasuke in a matter, in a setup and conversely; furthermore, the destructive force of Satetsu is not to be underestimated, especially if a great volume of is compressed into a shape of high density. [ ] Yasaka Magatama also is not too be misjudged; its destructive force while weaker than that of a bijū bomb can easily be augmented in Satetsu or by Satetsu to increase its destructive force; and you are incorrect in your arbitration of Sasori’s destructive force or at least the destructive force of the Sandaime Kazekage: of all the configurations of Satetsu, it is not Satetsu Kaihō which is the most damaging in terms of destructive force, it is Satetsu Kesshū. [ ] [ ]

I am not going to underestimate Sasori, however his chances of defeating current Sasuke are non-existant, unfortunately. As much as I like Sasori, without Itachi by his side he lacks a counter to the Amaterasu and Enton Arrows. I take back my statement about Satetsu World Order being his most destructive attack though. Moving on, I'm not going to underrate the destructive force of Yasaka Magatama either, but it has already been blocked by a much weaker defense. Yes, I am talking about the Rock and Sand Golem used by Gaara and Onoki. Even though it's correct that Sasori can make the Yasaka Magatama more destructive by using his Satetsu, however a V2 Susano'o has already tanked something as powerful as Kirin. Even though the Susano'o got destroyed, it still managed to save Itachi. If Sasuke were to use something higher such as V4 Susano'o, it's doubtful that anything Sasori can do will penetrate or break through Susano'o. Even if Itachi does help, the result would remain the same.​

Varrah said:
Your belief in matters does not hold any merit in this particular case. The Totsuka no Tsurugi can seal Susanoō much like how Gakidō can absorb jutsu. This is possibly as Susanoō is the composition of both Inton and Yōton, and not possibly if Susanoō is composed of only Inton. Susanoō is not, it is developed or arises from Inton and gains a form through Yōton, which is physical energy taken from the wieldier and given to the deity. The Totsuka no Tsurugi can seal Susanoō as it is the physical manifestation of the user's chakra.

While you can indeed compare the two, Gakido and Totsuka no Tsurugi are still two completely types of ''weapons''. Totsuka can seal the Susano'o, yes, however I believe that the Databook has clearly stated that Totsuka needs to penetrate the item or person it wants to seal. Such a scenario won't happen here since Totsuka lacks the ability to actually penetrate Susano'o. Itachi attempting to seal Susano'o with Totsuka will only result in the Totsuka no Tsurugi being unable to pierce it and getting blocked instead.​

Varrah said:
Again, I think the question to be asked is how continuously, effectively, and consistently and can Sasuke utilize the Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan?

As I said, an actual answer is non-existant. However, from what've seen, Sasuke can keep on fighting much longer than Itachi.​
 

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Nah PS gets countered by GSB. Enton isn't nearly as fast as amaterasu.. the only who most likely falls victim to that is Hidan.. good luck to Sasuke catching mutliple opponents at once with enton. Hawk? Loses to Deidara's clay dragon.
Aoda? You believe its going to overwhelm the akatsuki? Lel


I'd like to see some proof that Enton isn't as fast as amaterasu.
True hidan wouldn't be able to dodge Enton and thus get 1 shotted, nobody in their team showed feats
to stop the amaterasu so he'll burn to dead. you underestimate Sasuke's susano'o just look at how big he
is able to expand his sword and what he can cut [ ] they will get a hard time dodging enton as is said if he use it like this [ ] Not only is sasuke able to use it like this even without susanoó {taijutsu battle for example} he would be able to use it like this [ ]​
 

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Just because Hidan is a "non factor" doesn't mean you can underrate his speed.

Enton is no Sussanoo arrow speed. Hidan has displayed much better agility then Zetsu. Firing Enton projectiles to any Akatsuki, directly, is not happening.
 

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There's simply nothing which argues that that weapon can pierce Susano'o. It needs to 'pierce' it before it can even think about 'sealing' it.

I can't even see why Sasuke couldn't simply grab and forcibly take the Totsuka blade from his brother. I'm pretty certain a Perfect Susano'o would trump a regular one when it comes to physical strength.
 
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