Is Deidara high kage?

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Gj Shane, you managed to start a flame war between obssessed fans :vincent:

OT: IMO he's solid mid-kage level.
I dislike using intermediate tiers such low-mid and mid-high, but i noticed you use them so using your tiers i have to say mid-high.
 

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You can judge an opinion as much as you wish, in the end that's all that remains. You can't change one's opinion. You with all these arguments are trying to make me change my opinion, even if I never did the same thing to you in first place. Sure, you may say that you have the right to do so, but in the end you can't change it. My perspective simply differs than yours, that's the difference between me and you towards this fight. I also don't feel the reason to be put in a level of Tsunade fans. I'm not fanboying her at all, if she wins she wins, if she loses she loses. I just stated my opinion on her as on anyone else. I already explained why a debate would be pointless. You can't see the interpretation of Madara's words the same way I do, so a debate would be pointless. I never wanted to insult you or any other member of this topic, but people her rapidly just to conclusions and insults to someone that thinks different than them. That's just how it is, and it's a shame.
I'm not going to waste my time writing big paragraphs about this since I don't really care at this point and it'll just go nonstop but I'll try to keep this as short as possible.

Anyways you said in previous posts that we don't like to see things from both perspectives or logical interpretations (something like that) yet you are doing the exact same thing here. I realize that this is based on our opinions but that doesn't mean it can change with enough given evidence provided by someone. This isn't the same as me trying to tell and force you to believe that Pepsi is better than Coca Cola when you clearly like Coca Cola better only you can decide which is better because its you and your own personal preference. If that were the case what you stated up there would be right buts its not.. this section was made to discuss and challenge each other's perspectives/opinions.. if we go by what you say this section wouldn't work. If you don't want to change your opinion when its a topic thats debatable then you're just clearly being stubborn and you're not being open to other people's opinions. Thats why I want to debate with you I want to see why you think Tsunade wins.
 

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I'm not going to waste my time writing big paragraphs about this since I don't really care at this point and it'll just go nonstop but I'll try to keep this as short as possible.

Anyways you said in previous posts that we don't like to see things from both perspectives or logical interpretations (something like that) yet you are doing the exact same thing here. I realize that this is based on our opinions but that doesn't mean it can change with enough given evidence provided by someone. This isn't the same as me trying to tell and force you to believe that Pepsi is better than Coca Cola when you clearly like Coca Cola better only you can decide which is better because its you and your own personal preference. If that were the case what you stated up there would be right buts its not.. this section was made to discuss and challenge each other's perspectives/opinions.. if we go by what you say this section wouldn't work. If you don't want to change your opinion when its a topic thats debatable then you're just clearly being stubborn and you're not being open to other people's opinions. Thats why I want to debate with you I want to see why you think Tsunade wins.
Once we don't understand each other's perspectives, we can't understand a fight scenario each other created. Once I think that she's too fast for Deidara, and you think otherwise, the who debate is split and in the end it'll get us nowhere. Indeed I'm stubborn, because not only don't I want to have my opinion influenced, but also don't want to make a whole argument about it. I don't need anybody to agree with me, nor do I need to agree with anybody. Being alone arguing against all these people didn't change my opinion and my choice, so a whole debate won't neither. You have your opinion, I have mine. You don't necessarily need to agree with me. I think Tsunade wins, you think Deidara wins. I'm fine with that. I don't wish to debate with that because, not only do I dislike debates, but I also don't see the point of debating opinions. Indeed this section may be for that stuff, but nowhere does it say that I actually HAVE to answer to these challenges. And I don't do this because I'm afraid of anything, all my reactions to the point should prove that.

Oh, and thanks for putting my line in the signature. It's an honor. :p
 

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Once we don't understand each other's perspectives, we can't understand a fight scenario each other created. Once I think that she's too fast for Deidara, and you think otherwise, the who debate is split and in the end it'll get us nowhere. Indeed I'm stubborn, because not only don't I want to have my opinion influenced, but also don't want to make a whole argument about it. I don't need anybody to agree with me, nor do I need to agree with anybody. Being alone arguing against all these people didn't change my opinion and my choice, so a whole debate won't neither. You have your opinion, I have mine. You don't necessarily need to agree with me. I think Tsunade wins, you think Deidara wins. I'm fine with that. I don't wish to debate with that because, not only do I dislike debates, but I also don't see the point of debating opinions. Indeed this section may be for that stuff, but nowhere does it say that I actually HAVE to answer to these challenges. And I don't do this because I'm afraid of anything, all my reactions to the point should prove that.

Oh, and thanks for putting my line in the signature. It's an honor. :p
Then this is pointless to carry on. I'm done here if you don't want to debate.
 

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Gj Shane, you managed to start a flame war between obssessed fans :vincent:

OT: IMO he's solid mid-kage level.
I dislike using intermediate tiers such low-mid and mid-high, but i noticed you use them so using your tiers i have to say mid-high.
lolol I had no idea this thread would be so big. Nearly everyone is saying he is mid kage level, not mid-high, high, or low-mid. Solid mid and I agree
 

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Nah Tsunade has speed on par with V2 Ay who is comparable to Minato.. She blitzes Deidara before he can even fly much less blink ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
She speed blitzed Shizune in Part 1. This speed feat can't be overlooked. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Plus her use of Explosive Taijutsu will seal the deal on Deidara, if not her clever uses of the substitution jutsu. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

What was I thinking?
 

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She speed blitzed Shizune in Part 1. This speed feat can't be overlooked. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Plus her use of Explosive Taijutsu will seal the deal on Deidara, if not her clever uses of the substitution jutsu. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

What was I thinking?
Did you forget that she blitzed Madara as well? Scratch that she BLITZED Kabuto while he was off guard like omg that's the best speed blitz feat ever in this manga. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Oh yes how can I forget that? Tsunade's EXPLOSIVE TAIJUTSU will make all of Deidara's explosions completely irrelevant. Not only that but she has the most strongest overlooked defense in the series EVER.
This thread brought that to light ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I know I know I feel ashamed now.. I think I shall cut myself for my sins. Sorry KingHashirama and miromiro I should've listened to what you guys said. Now let me go to a dark corner and rethink my life over.
 

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Did you forget that she blitzed Madara as well? Scratch that she BLITZED Kabuto while he was off guard like omg that's the best speed blitz feat ever in this manga. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Oh yes how can I forget that? Tsunade's EXPLOSIVE TAIJUTSU will make all of Deidara's explosions completely irrelevant. Not only that but she has the most strongest overlooked defense in the series EVER.
This thread brought that to light ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I know I know I feel ashamed now.. I think I shall cut myself for my sins. Sorry KingHashirama and miromiro I should've listened to what you guys said. Now let me go to a dark corner and rethink my life over.
I... I can't believe the mistake I made in my first post. I am beyond enlightened, Tsunade with just herself is more than capable of beating Deidara. I mean, flying? Please, Tsunade has like, a mile vertical jump. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Pair her jump with her EXPLOSIVE TAIJUTSU and it's GG.

This isn't even including her God Tier summon, Katsuyu. Katsuyu can speed blitz anyone in this manga low diff and her ranged attack is literally unavoidable. u___u

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 

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In no way Deidara ia a high kage , he is probably a mid kage level . Also , seeing how this miromiro guy think that Tsunade beats Deidara ... I am laughing my ass off right now .
 
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