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What if Shanks arrived at Marineford before Akainu provoked Ace ?
Or what if Akainu didn't insult WB and Ace was still escaping ?

Basically what would have happened if Shanks arrived when Ace was alive and escaping ?
 
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Who knows but the battle would have definitely continued. The Marines only stopped because Ace and Whitebeard, they're main targets, were dead.

Remember, the Admirals still tried to kill Luffy even after Shanks arrived.
 

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Then the pirates would have won the war and possibly WB and Ace would still be alive.
-There is no way the marines were ready to fight 2 Yonkos who happen to be the strongest ones...and BB would probably be at the bottom of the ocean
 

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Who knows but the battle would have definitely continued. The Marines only stopped because Ace and Whitebeard, they're main targets, were dead.

Remember, the Admirals still tried to kill Luffy even after Shanks arrived.

Seems legit , but the Marines would have lost if Shanks arrived at that moment :cool:
 

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WB/Ace would be alive and BB would of been killed/stopped by Shanks & WB.

There's no way the admirals can handle both Shanks & WB. Especially with people assisting them like Ben Beckman, Yasopp, Lucky, Marco, Jozu, Vista, etc.
 
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Seems legit , but the Marines would have lost if Shanks arrived at that moment :cool:

They would most likely lose, yes, but they're so obsessed with justice, so they wouldn't stop no matter what.
 

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The war would have still ended.
If Ace and Newgate hadn't died there would have been Newgate and Shanks against the Marines. That would have been too much for them.
 

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The war would have still ended.
If Ace and Newgate hadn't died there would have been Newgate and Shanks against the Marines. That would have been too much for them.

well with arrival of Shanks now they have WB, Shanks, Ben Backman, Marco, ...

but the Marines coulp potentially deal with that with Akainu, Aokiji, Kizaru, Sengoku and Garp it would be way more intense and it would have been a much more equal fight

if Ace didn't die WB would have never gone into a frenzy

BB, I think, would just chicken out
 
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well with arrival of Shanks now they have WB, Shanks, Ben Backman, Marco, ...

but the Marines coulp potentially deal with that with Akainu, Aokiji, Kizaru, Sengoku and Garp it would be way more intense and it would have been a much more equal fight

if Ace didn't die WB would have never gone into a frenzy

BB, I think, would just chicken out

Shanks and Newgate in the same place with both crews is too much even for the Marines.
And I agree, Teach wouldn't even show up if he knew that Shanks was there. No way would he have let Newgate die imo.
 

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Shanks and Newgate in the same place with both crews is too much even for the Marines.
And I agree, Teach wouldn't even show up if he knew that Shanks was there. No way would he have let Newgate die imo.

Backman could potentially go for Kizaru (or Aokiji)
Marco for Aokiji (or Kizaru) but he would lose
Shanks could take Garp and WB could take Sengoku but there is still Akainu which f'd up WB by himself pretty bad and Aokiji (or Kizaru) would join in after he dealt with Marco

if Marco could take on an Admiral that would be a huge + for the pirates

the sichibukai (Mihawk would have left prob) could prob stall the rest (Jozu, Lucky Roo, Ace, ...) together with the VAs

but in such a huge fight the match-ups could change so fast that it could turn the favor either way at any time

anyway that's my take on it
 

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Backman could potentially go for Kizaru (or Aokiji)
Marco for Aokiji (or Kizaru) but he would lose
Shanks could take Garp and WB could take Sengoku but there is still Akainu which f'd up WB by himself pretty bad and Aokiji (or Kizaru) would join in after he dealt with Marco

if Marco could take on an Admiral that would be a huge + for the pirates

the sichibukai (Mihawk would have left prob) could prob stall the rest (Jozu, Lucky Roo, Ace, ...) together with the VAs

but in such a huge fight the match-ups could change so fast that it could turn the favor either way at any time

anyway that's my take on it

Oh sh*t!
Completely forgot about the Shichibukai.
Only thing is they had enough trouble with one Yonko and his crew and almost lost. With two Yonko and there crew, logic states they should lose. On top of that you have the ID escapees.
 

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Oh sh*t!
Completely forgot about the Shichibukai.
Only thing is they had enough trouble with one Yonko and his crew and almost lost. With two Yonko and there crew, logic states they should lose. On top of that you have the ID escapees.

well Doflamingo and Hancock were mostly just kicking fodder and were unharmed at the end

but there are still the VA's

I think the battle would have been decided by the 9 biggest names
 

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well Doflamingo and Hancock were mostly just kicking fodder and were unharmed at the end

but there are still the VA's

I think the battle would have been decided by the 9 biggest names

9 biggest names?
You mean Newgate, Shanks, Garp, Sengoku, Sakazuki, Kuzan, Borsalino, Marco, Beckman and Mihawk?
If so yup. I agree.
 

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9 biggest names?
You mean Newgate, Shanks, Garp, Sengoku, Sakazuki, Kuzan, Borsalino, Marco, Beckman and Mihawk?
If so yup. I agree.

without Mihawk since there is a possibility he would just leave as he doesn't want to fight (or rather didn't agree on fighting) Shanks
 

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without Mihawk since there is a possibility he would just leave as he doesn't want to fight (or rather didn't agree on fighting) Shanks

Some of that had to be down to respect for each other though U_U
 

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well with arrival of Shanks now they have WB, Shanks, Ben Backman, Marco, ...

but the Marines coulp potentially deal with that with Akainu, Aokiji, Kizaru, Sengoku and Garp it would be way more intense and it would have been a much more equal fight

if Ace didn't die WB would have never gone into a frenzy

BB, I think, would just chicken out

Akainu was tired , so he gets taken down by Marko and Vista.
BB wouldn't have showed up ( If he would then Mihawk would have fought him and killed him , Yami BB got stomped by a near dead WB )
Shanks would have teamed up with WB and take down Sengoku and Garp ( if they choose to fight )
Mihawk would have probably left.
Croco would still fight.
Jimbei would still be unharmed.
Ace would still be unharmed.
Hancock would protect luffy.
Ben beckman would have fought Kizaru.
The other member of Shanks's crew are probably strong too ( the ones that showed up in the stand off against BB) so i believe 2 of them can take down an Admiral like Aokiji.

Not to mention that WB wouldn't have had half his face blown off.

And we forgot Jozu too , basically its a mid diff for the two Yonkos U_U
 
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This is rly intresting when you think about it
All it would take to destroy the entire WG (by destroying its major forces you basicly destroy the pillar that keeps it standing) is 2 pirates and some of their crew members cause lets be honest.WB with his power could destroy all of the fodder no problem.
 

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then ace would still be alive, idk about whitebeard, he had to many injuries.

but, the story would not have progressed as it has, luffy woulda just went back with his crew, and no training for any strawat.
 

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Garp vs shanks
sengoku or (and) akainu vs wb
kizaru vs beckman
aokiji vs marco


they still have lucky roo, jozu, yasop and them. but marines have doflamingo mihawk, hancock and VA's.

to be honest it could go either way. it's an equal match.

id still probably go with the marines winning very high diff.
 

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Garp vs shanks
sengoku or (and) akainu vs wb
kizaru vs beckman
aokiji vs marco


they still have lucky roo, jozu, yasop and them. but marines have doflamingo mihawk, hancock and VA's.

to be honest it could go either way. it's an equal match.

id still probably go with the marines winning very high diff.

Equal match?? Lol, the marines won at very high diff with only WB, another yonko joining, it's an overkill.

Mihawk would have left the same way he did when shanks arrived, Hancock is on luffy's side, so she will stay killing fodders, and doflamingo would either run away or get taken care of by a WB or shanks commander.

There is still crocodile, jimbei, daz, and ivankov to take care of some of the strong marines.
 
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