6pathofpain
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I'm thinking 3 people who could possible beat madara 1 on 1, no statue. Nagato, Itachi, and Hashirama and I have good arguments why.
Nagato and Madara
Its true that Nagato has madara's eyes so madara did indeed have them first and did found a lot of the Tec nagato used such as the black swords or statues. But nagato had the rinnegan for much longer and at a younger state then madara. His useage of the paths in battle exceeds anything we've seen from madara except for the giant meteors which he can't use anymore because which was stated by him that attack would damage or destroy him as well(which could also explain why nagato or pain never did it). As we all know madara's regular jutsu would be useless against nagato, because of preta path same goes for any regular jutsu nagato uses against madara(nagato did master all chakra natures at the age of 10 or something like that, I know he hasn't shown any except in the anime but this is just for the sake of the argument). So there at a stalemate there, in taijutsu with nagato's summons even if madara makes a point to destroy them quickly the dog and bird won't be easily killed by any of madara's attacks simple because the bird flys very fast and is not easily in reach and the dog will just multiple. This gives nagato many different feilds of vision so ngto can see the attacks coming from all angles, and with asura paths extra arms,strength, and tentacles I find it hard to believe even madara could over come those odds. Not to mention the human path which could be used to take madaras soul( these are being listed amoung nagatos assists and not madara's because madara has not show that he can or will use these techniques, it seems he focused his rinnegan training mostly with the statue). Madara's ace perfect suasnoo may even not be as much help because nagato can either attack it with a much stronger almighty push than pain was able to deliver( probably won't destroy it, but it'll look cool) he could limit its movements by using planetary devastation(wouldn't stop it, but the gravity would either pull madara out of suasnoo or bring suasnoo up with him which would disrupt madara's use of it). Or he could simple use universal pull and take him out of suasnoo and out them back on equal ground so if madara can win this fight, not saying he couldn't. How? Its definitely not a land slide victory.
Itachi and Madara
This fight is out more on chance then raw power for it to be in itachi's favor. Madara now doesn't seem to be a fan of useing the wood stlye which would help itachi. In my opinion itachi's suasnoo is the strongest, with the yata mirror sheild he can reflect any attack. Madara not having knowledge of itachi having it could give itachi the advantage cause he could return perfect suasnoo's raw power back on an unsuspecting madara nd deliver some serious damage or even destroy him. And with the sealing sword, he can still defeat madara's suasnoo. Sure madara could make another one but I'd imagine that's a lot of chakra(ems spares him the pain of making suasnoo but not the extent of chakra, just cause he has ems doesn't mean he can use it unlimited, he has a lot of chakra though.) Besides a battle of the suasnoo's tho its what yous except. Madara's jutsu over lowers itachi, and taijutsu wise is expect him to do better than sasuke but I think madara's stronger so he'd still win eventually. Basically if they fight with suasnoo's itachi could win, we've seen how careles madara can be with hashirama's healing. Not something he can afford against the sealing sword that he also doesn't know Itachi has.
Hashirama and Madara
This ones more of a hunch. I noticed that despite everything, at the end before madara came back to life hashirama had won. And lets not forget that the hokages were able to be brought back at full strength. At full strength I'd have to say hashirama takes that fight still without a doubt.
Oh and don't get on here and say some shit about madara making the wood clones with suasnoo cause he dam sure can't do that anymore lol
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Nagato and Madara
Its true that Nagato has madara's eyes so madara did indeed have them first and did found a lot of the Tec nagato used such as the black swords or statues. But nagato had the rinnegan for much longer and at a younger state then madara. His useage of the paths in battle exceeds anything we've seen from madara except for the giant meteors which he can't use anymore because which was stated by him that attack would damage or destroy him as well(which could also explain why nagato or pain never did it). As we all know madara's regular jutsu would be useless against nagato, because of preta path same goes for any regular jutsu nagato uses against madara(nagato did master all chakra natures at the age of 10 or something like that, I know he hasn't shown any except in the anime but this is just for the sake of the argument). So there at a stalemate there, in taijutsu with nagato's summons even if madara makes a point to destroy them quickly the dog and bird won't be easily killed by any of madara's attacks simple because the bird flys very fast and is not easily in reach and the dog will just multiple. This gives nagato many different feilds of vision so ngto can see the attacks coming from all angles, and with asura paths extra arms,strength, and tentacles I find it hard to believe even madara could over come those odds. Not to mention the human path which could be used to take madaras soul( these are being listed amoung nagatos assists and not madara's because madara has not show that he can or will use these techniques, it seems he focused his rinnegan training mostly with the statue). Madara's ace perfect suasnoo may even not be as much help because nagato can either attack it with a much stronger almighty push than pain was able to deliver( probably won't destroy it, but it'll look cool) he could limit its movements by using planetary devastation(wouldn't stop it, but the gravity would either pull madara out of suasnoo or bring suasnoo up with him which would disrupt madara's use of it). Or he could simple use universal pull and take him out of suasnoo and out them back on equal ground so if madara can win this fight, not saying he couldn't. How? Its definitely not a land slide victory.
Itachi and Madara
This fight is out more on chance then raw power for it to be in itachi's favor. Madara now doesn't seem to be a fan of useing the wood stlye which would help itachi. In my opinion itachi's suasnoo is the strongest, with the yata mirror sheild he can reflect any attack. Madara not having knowledge of itachi having it could give itachi the advantage cause he could return perfect suasnoo's raw power back on an unsuspecting madara nd deliver some serious damage or even destroy him. And with the sealing sword, he can still defeat madara's suasnoo. Sure madara could make another one but I'd imagine that's a lot of chakra(ems spares him the pain of making suasnoo but not the extent of chakra, just cause he has ems doesn't mean he can use it unlimited, he has a lot of chakra though.) Besides a battle of the suasnoo's tho its what yous except. Madara's jutsu over lowers itachi, and taijutsu wise is expect him to do better than sasuke but I think madara's stronger so he'd still win eventually. Basically if they fight with suasnoo's itachi could win, we've seen how careles madara can be with hashirama's healing. Not something he can afford against the sealing sword that he also doesn't know Itachi has.
Hashirama and Madara
This ones more of a hunch. I noticed that despite everything, at the end before madara came back to life hashirama had won. And lets not forget that the hokages were able to be brought back at full strength. At full strength I'd have to say hashirama takes that fight still without a doubt.
Oh and don't get on here and say some shit about madara making the wood clones with suasnoo cause he dam sure can't do that anymore lol
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