Is Nagato really stronger than DSM Kabuto? Is Itachi stronger than Jiraiya?

[Vandenre1ch]

When it comes to Kabuto and Nagato, I honestly don't know who beats who. Kabuto is basically an anti-ocular power fighter but he has no counter to CB. Or does he?

As for Itachi and Jiraiya, I'm honestly beginning to think that Jiraiya is stronger? Is that a bad thing? I mean, Jiraiya is extremely verstatile and has counters to almost everyting in Itachi's arsenal. How is Itachi going to counter frog song? How will Itachi get rid of the toad summons? Spam amaterasu and drain himself? Nagato himself said that if Jiraiya was aware of the 6pop abilities, Jiraiya would've won. Nagato can potientially beat Itachi with just the Deva and Animal paths.

 

[illidanson]

Yes.

Nagato > DSM Kabuto

Itachi >> Jiraya.

 

[-immortal-]

Yes.

Nagato > DSM Kabuto

Itachi >> Jiraya.

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[Klad]

Kabuto fears Rin'negan users , so Nagato > DSM Kabuto .

As for Itachi vs Jiraiya ... the only thing which concerns me is how will Jiraiya counter Tsukuyomi ?

 

[Holy Cross]

Jiraiya>Itachi

Idk who would win when it comes to kabuto vs. nagato

 

[HiddenSound]

Kabuto fears Rin'negan users , so Nagato > DSM Kabuto .

As for Itachi vs Jiraiya ... the only thing which concerns me is how will Jiraiya counter Tsukuyomi ?

Momentary intimidation =/= Fear. Besides, that's not enough of a reason.
I think it could go either way with Kabuto and Nagato.

As for Itachi vs Jiraiya, Itachi is stronger. Amaterasu.

 

[Lyke]

Kabuto fears Rin'negan users , so Nagato > DSM Kabuto .

As for Itachi vs Jiraiya ... the only thing which concerns me is how will Jiraiya counter Tsukuyomi ?

Itachi blitzes

 

[Untamed]

Itachi vs Jiraiya starting off the battle with nothing activated.

1 second - itachi activates sharingan & draws kunai or shuriken( Jiraiya draws kunai)

2 seconds- Itachi casts Jiraiya into a genjutsu or closes his eyes intending to activate his MS
( Jiraiya stabs himself in the arm intending to perform a summoning jutsu)

3 seconds - Jiraiya is cast in genjutsu or is amateratsu'd . while trying to summon a giant toad .


Itachi lives > Jiraiya dies.

 

[UchihaNagashi]

Yes, Nagato gains the victory over Kabuto. Kabuto has no counter for Chibaku Tensei, and Hakugeki can be absorbed. Also Human Path is very useful.

Itachi on the other hand, outclasses Jiraiya due to Susano'o, which he can't penetrate. Magen: Gama Rinshō is the only problem, which is debatable. Not to mention, Tsukuyomi is too much for Jiraiya.

Yes. They most likely are.​

 

[Klad]

Momentary intimidation =/= Fear. Besides, that's not enough of a reason.
I think it could go either way with Kabuto and Nagato.

As for Itachi vs Jiraiya, Itachi is stronger. Amaterasu.

Momentary intimidation ? How do you know that ?Kabuto feared Obito who had only one Rin'negan , while Nagato has two .

 

[Pirate King]

Nagato wrecks dsm kabuto

 

[itachi4real]

Yes.

Nagato > DSM Kabuto

Itachi >> Jiraya.

This..........

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Kabuto fears Rin'negan users , so Nagato > DSM Kabuto .

As for Itachi vs Jiraiya ... the only thing which concerns me is how will Jiraiya counter Tsukuyomi ?

Kabuto doesn't fear Rinnegan users. He knew that fighting Rinnegan Obito at that moment would just hinder his plans. Kabuto had nothing to gain for the risks were too high.

Tsukyomi only works via eye-contact and someone of Jiriaiya's experience and calibar would know that.

Momentary intimidation =/= Fear. Besides, that's not enough of a reason.
I think it could go either way with Kabuto and Nagato.

As for Itachi vs Jiraiya, Itachi is stronger. Amaterasu.

Can't Jiraiya sense the danger of Amaterasu coming at him due to SM and dodge accordingly? Jiraiya is shown to be pretty quick and has good reaction time in SM.

Yes, Nagato gains the victory over Kabuto. Kabuto has no counter for Chibaku Tensei, and Hakugeki can be absorbed. Also Human Path is very useful.

Itachi on the other hand, outclasses Jiraiya due to Susano'o, which he can't penetrate. Magen: Gama Rinshō is the only problem, which is debatable. Not to mention, Tsukuyomi is too much for Jiraiya.

Yes. They most likely are.​

Nagato can't absorb sound.

Isn't Susanoo but a temporary defense and drains Itachi like no other? Jiraiya has a number of technigues to help him against Susano'o.

 

[The Necromancer]

Yes.

Nagato > DSM Kabuto

Itachi >> Jiraya.

Yup. The only way Jiraiya can beat Itachi is with Sage Mode, but by that time Itachi will have already won 9 times out of 10.

 

[Klad]

Kabuto doesn't fear Rinnegan users. He knew that fighting Rinnegan Obito at that moment would just hinder his plans. Kabuto had nothing to gain for the risks were too high.

Tsukyomi only works via eye-contact and someone of Jiriaiya's experience and calibar would know that.

But that still counts as 'fear' . But anyway , I think Nagato > Kabuto high difficulty .

Maybe ...

 

[UchihaNagashi]

Kabuto doesn't fear Rinnegan users. He knew that fighting Rinnegan Obito at that moment would just hinder his plans. Kabuto had nothing to gain for the risks were too high.

Tsukyomi only works via eye-contact and someone of Jiriaiya's experience and calibar would know that.



Can't Jiraiya sense the danger of Amaterasu coming at him due to SM and dodge accordingly? Jiraiya is shown to be pretty quick and has good reaction time in SM.



Nagato can't absorb sound.

Isn't Susanoo but a temporary defense and drains Itachi like no other? Jiraiya has a number of technigues to help him against Susano'o.

Hakugeki also has a physical form if you forgot. Not to mention, sounds produced with Chakura can be even blocked as Temari blocked Tayuya's sound with wind.

Jiraiya has no hope of penetrating through Susano'o, giving that Itachi has Yata no Kagami that can be presumably wrapped around the entire armor.​

 

[VongolaX]

The kabuto that didn't want to fight Obito was not DSM Kabuto.

That was regular kabutomaru <---base members vocabulary for him

He couldn't fight in the open because his advantage was in a cave, were he can slither behind rocks to transform.

DSM kabuto can't die, with his uzamaki powers of healing and senjustu chakra which allows him to dodge all of nagato's moves.

He can regenerate and oral rebirth, so Ct is useless

Suigestu's liquid abilities make it easier for him not to be grabbed for soul absorption.

Plus Edo tensei would easily neg diff Nagato.

Dsm kabuto >>> Nagato

Uzamaki+senjustu tenpin+sagemode chakra >>>>>>> just uzamaki chakra

By a large neg diff margin

Itachi easily >>>Jiraiya

Also itachi >Nagato too

 

[insid3rkil3r]

The thing with jiraiya is that while he is a strong opponent when in sage mode, it takes him too long to achieve it. Unlike Naruto who has fully mastered it and can do it on his own, Jiraiya needs the elder frogs to achieve it, which took a very large amount of time to summon them as shown in the fight against Pain.

If jiraiya starts with the frogs by his side and in sage mode, id consider it a close match up, but if he has to summon them...... There is no way Jiraiya will be able to make it as this time he is not facing a mere path of pain, but a full fledged shinobi who is excellent at everything.

 

[Bronze]

If Edo Tensie is excluded, then Nagato takes Kabuto out. If not, then otherwise Kabuto wins easily.

Itachi traps Jiraiya in Genjutsu.

 

[psukkar]

Kabuto fears Rin'negan users , so Nagato > DSM Kabuto .

As for Itachi vs Jiraiya ... the only thing which concerns me is how will Jiraiya counter Tsukuyomi ?

that's easy, toad sage user.

1) get caught while normal mode. When ur in genjutsu ur standing still which means jiraiya can enter sage mode.

or

2) Have pa and ma frog from the beginning and the constant pumping of natural energy to jiraiya will disrupt his chakra.,

have mentioned that jiraiya tried to teach to Naruto tro break chakra via chakra disruption.

so there u have it.